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Edelman fumble was the dagger unfortunately.....Jules usually protects ball very well....just a tough break

they wiped the floor with the pats

We got a lucky fumble off a punt and a turnover on their side of the field to keep the score close for awhile

The offense looked reasonably capable for a little while though. Jules’ fumble really killed their momentum though. So there’s that
 
Honestly I thought the O and Brady looked really in the second and third quarters.

Two extremely uncharacteristically poor turnovers from JE11 and TB12 cost us in the end.

But Sanu works really well in this offense. I don’t know what Harry is going to be and I still like Meyers I think there is enough in this O to win a championship. Hopefully Brady builds his trust with those two quickly Meyers from mine seems like a Mitchell type but not sure Brady sees it that way...

This team is still Brady’s team if he and the O play well we have a strong shot from here. D will be fine I never thought they were as good as they have been Made out to be over the last number of weeks.
 
Getting past the Eagles? Yeah. I would hate to be them, playing the Pats would just got stomped and now have the bye week to get ready.

Eagles won't be easy. They have a good running game and love to play the RPO.
 
I know lots of people were happy we took the 3 before the half. It is 20/20 hindsight but I think not going for it was a major reason for the loss. We had the Ravens on their heels and tying the game would be deflating for them heading into the half. We kept it close at 17-13 but with how the Ravens were making a number of long drives and tiring out the defense, I believe we needed to land a major blow. We never caught up and, as a result, their players kept believing in themselves.

Analytics sometimes don't account for momentum; yet, even the data pointed to us having a much better shot at winning the game with a touchdown than the field goal to the point it was sensible to roll the dice. What do other people think about that choice at that juncture of the game?
I said they should go for it right after replay confirmed White was touched and I stand by it. The FG there makes sense analytically, but tying them after such a dominant 1 1/2 quarters would have demoralized them.
 
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Agree on Harris....makes absolutely NO sense....like not suiting up Harry....BB not drafting one of top TE (and maybe one of WR you mentioned)and handling of this years draft is showing now....whiffed on getting FA TE too.....biggest issue was and continues to be OL...just awful ...hope Wynn can stay healthy and help solidify line

Funny thing is, I wanted Lamar Jackson with our 1st round pick. Though we could’ve used him as a running back and gadget player, as well as eventually the Brady replacement. As good as Sony was last year, as important a player he was for us, he’s been completely useless this year. I’d love to see Damien Harris get some carries, he was excellent in college.

Speaking of draft choices, that horrible SlowJuan Williams trade up, instead of picking 2 players in the 2nd round, is really coming back to bite them in the ass. WR’s Mecole Hardman & DK Metcalf were taken in those slots, meanwhile SlowJuan Williams watches all those games in street clothes. Imagine having Hardman and Metcalf in this offense instead of a SLOW DB that has done nothing, especially when WR was such a big need. Frustrating. Very questionable.
 
Funny thing is, I wanted Lamar Jackson with our 1st round pick. Though we could’ve used him as a running back and gadget player, as well as eventually the Brady replacement. As good as Sony was last year, as important a player he was for us, he’s been completely useless this year. I’d love to see Damien Harris get some carries, he was excellent in college.

Speaking of draft choices, that horrible SlowJuan Williams trade up, instead of picking 2 players in the 2nd round, is really coming back to bite them in the ass. WR’s Mecole Hardman & DK Metcalf were taken in those slots, meanwhile SlowJuan Williams watches all those games in street clothes. Imagine having Hardman and Metcalf in this offense instead of a SLOW DB that has done nothing, especially when WR was such a big need. Frustrating. Very questionable.

Drafting Jackson as Brady's heir may been the right thing to do in hindsight. However, those other players you mention would not have fixed our sloppy play and OL.
 
Honestly I thought the O and Brady looked really in the second and third quarters.

Two extremely uncharacteristically poor turnovers from JE11 and TB12 cost us in the end.

But Sanu works really well in this offense. I don’t know what Harry is going to be and I still like Meyers I think there is enough in this O to win a championship. Hopefully Brady builds his trust with those two quickly Meyers from mine seems like a Mitchell type but not sure Brady sees it that way...

This team is still Brady’s team if he and the O play well we have a strong shot from here. D will be fine I never thought they were as good as they have been Made out to be over the last number of weeks.
Get Harry going- need a RZ target

Get Wynn in there- because he is an upgrade

Run the ball a little more effectively- help play-action

Figure out the run D- this can't happen again

Keep TB12 upright- obviously

See you in MIA
 
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NKheal was a healthy scratch. People act like he’s going to come in and look like DK Metcalf? Brady may not even have good chemistry with Neal, he has zero patience with young WRs
Brady’s current attitude is part of problem....you can hear in his voice how pissed he is that they dropped AB, probably DT and now Gordon....and yes he doesn’t have patience with rook WR like he used to when they’re learning system. Obviously Harry is progressing with playbook at Ocho Cinco pace ....TFB can’t be happy with this awful OL that BB has him playing behind....
 
Eagles won't be easy. They have a good running game and love to play the RPO.

Two weeks to prepare and they just saw it run by a better team. We’ll see.
 
OL can’t protect...little to no time for TB....and can’t run block or create openings....major work needs to be done here somehow

any defensive injuries besides their pride? No?.Bye week. More O line work please.

I watched every game today. I can tell you that across the board, officials made calls that skewed games one way or the other. Tonight was no different.Questionable calls that keep opposing offenses on the field are the rage across the league. It comes from the top, as usual. I love the NFL, always have. I despise watching it turned into a fake narrative fiesta every week...but...it is what it is as someone we know well has iterated for decades.

BTW 210 yards on the ground to 74...look no further if you want to see the gaping wound in this loss.
 
The run defense is terrible right now. And there's no Wilfork level player that's going to fix it. Worse than that is they've let Lamar Jackon beat them. Wentz, Watson and Mahomes are all much better QB's. That's scary to think of.

There's got to be a left tackle out there somewhere. Just need one game. Then Wynn is back I think. Newhouse is so bad that he should be cut this morning.
 
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BB drafts are always head scratchers....this year and last were glaring mistakes


I’ve been saying this for a while now...huge huge question marks made by our front office when it comes to drafting skill positions.

Michel > Chubb

Passing on L Jackson twice

Passing on DK Metcalf twice for two players who have yet to make the active roster

Passing on C Ridley
 
Newhouse needs to go before then...guy is a liability

Lots of mistakes but most correctable with coaching and hopefully returning personnel like Wynn.

Can we defend tight ends is a question I have. The Eagles have 2 pretty good ones. Pederson will be attacking Newhouse almost certainly in 2 weeks.
 
Defense looked their age tonight. Not the end of the world. Hopefully they have a turn it around for the Eagles.
 
They will not win the SB this year with an OL that plays like this...need Wynn badly

If Newhouse is so awful, why aren’t they chipping the DE at the line of scrimmage, shading the RB protector left, setting up a TE at the 5 gap to help? They do none of this.
 
Honestly I thought the O and Brady looked really in the second and third quarters.

Two extremely uncharacteristically poor turnovers from JE11 and TB12 cost us in the end.

But Sanu works really well in this offense. I don’t know what Harry is going to be and I still like Meyers I think there is enough in this O to win a championship. Hopefully Brady builds his trust with those two quickly Meyers from mine seems like a Mitchell type but not sure Brady sees it that way...

This team is still Brady’s team if he and the O play well we have a strong shot from here. D will be fine I never thought they were as good as they have been Made out to be over the last number of weeks.
I pretty much agree all around with this... though I really think that what will change the offense most will be if the OL can play better. That would have huge implications for the run and pass game.

The defense is good... though not all time. They settled down during the middle part of the game. However, the run D is definitely an issue. It's showing to be a persistent thing that only scheme will fix because we're small up front. And if High goes down, it would become a massive issue.
 
Newhouse might be the worst LT we’ve put in front of Brady.
 
This game can be summed up by saying the pateiots had too many penalties and they are not good enough to overcome them.
 
Drafting Jackson as Brady's heir may been the right thing to do in hindsight. However, those other players you mention would not have fixed our sloppy play and OL.

IMO He had a great game obviously but the second time we play them (if we play them for a second time) i think we could contain him better. Two drives the refs (i don't blame them) missed the correct calls and they build a huge lead. If he has to throw i think he is one of the worst to do it in the NFL. His playing style is one injury away of never be relevant again (eg. RGIII).
 
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