Looking ahead to cutdowns and waiver (EDIT: First names announced)

[signbabybrady]

???

Last year rhe team was much worse. We claimed 4 players off the waiver wire on Cutdown Day. Jacobs was the best of those.

Why do you think that we will be more active. And why do you think that we'll folks worth keeping?

Vrabel reiterated what Wolf said about looking for trades and however else to improve the roster so fingers crossed for a few moves even if not the big ones that have been floated.

 

[p8ryts]

ONE of these is a lot to ask at this time of year.

The interior Ol is paramount.

 

[The Gr8est]

Left Guard
Center
Backup QB
RB #4
FB
TE #3

That's a lot to ask for at this time of the year, but that's the state of a rebuilding team.

Haven't focused on any other teams enough to know who might be waived that would provide this team with an upgrade.

Not likely to happen again, but I’m sure many of you remember that Leon Gray was a pickup on cutdown day when the Pats were early in the claims order.

 

[Love The Drake]

I’m going to say If Dobbs is our backup it’s due to not having proper time for a McDaniels crash course, that being said I would call the Broncos about Stufham and I would call the Steelers about Skyler Thompson at QB.

That being said Kicker is a concern our rookie is not very good as I said.
So it it Parker Romo or the waiver wire or trades?

RB I think we are set at the first 3 but a fourth on the PS is helpful, I don’t see anyone capable of being the fourth but not as concerned about that.

TE we have nothing after our first 2, did Bell make one play this camp or preseason?

OL, we need a third tackle and we need A third and fourth Guard.

WR wouldn’t it be surprise if we have our eyes on someone to add more explosion to be our 6th or 7th?

CB,S I think we have 4 to 5 corners so we need a 5th and 6th.
I think Minor is PS material but there is better out there.

S- if Dugger is gone we need a 4th and 5th safety between roster and PS.

Dline, I have concerns, I’m concerned about Farmer, could be sneak on a PS probably not we more than likely have to give him a season to get stronger and figure it out.

LB- I think we are ok but if we can add Parsons Giddy up.

My biggest concerns third string O line, third string D line, third string DBs, third string QB.

KICKER!

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I’d keep my expectations in check. Last year the Pats had the 3rd waiver claim and were awarded 4 players- OT Demontrey Jacobs, OL Zach Thomas. DT Eric Johnson and LB Curtis Jacobs. All but Demontrey Jacobs are already gone.

Teams don’t release guys who are ready to play and contribute so don’t expect immediate upgrades but projects to be developed. One place where the Pats were successful in upgrading the talent base was poaching to their practice squad.2024 draftees cut by other teams with the intention of signing them to practice squad. Both DJ James and Miles Battle were obtained that way and have upgraded the Pats DB depth this preseason.

This is correct. Very unlikely to find a starter on the waiver wire at cut down day. Very unlikely. Anybody that is a low level starter is traded for a 7th or a pick swap.

It is a strategy to pluck developmental guys off other teams' PS. That can work well but does not produce starters this year.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

That being said Kicker is a concern our rookie is not very good as I said.
So it it Parker Romo or the waiver wire or trades?

KICKER!

Can we trade for Chad Ryland?

 

[n1997y]

I’m going to say If Dobbs is our backup it’s due to not having proper time for a McDaniels crash course, that being said I would call the Broncos about Stufham and I would call the Steelers about Skyler Thompson at QB.

QB2 really should be upgraded, and it seems like there should be quite a few good prospects coming available Tuesday. Might even see a trade before then, in which case Dobbs is history. I don’t think his problems stem from not having time for a McD crash course, I think he just crashed on his own.

That being said Kicker is a concern our rookie is not very good as I said.
So it it Parker Romo or the waiver wire or trades?

Romo

RB I think we are set at the first 3 but a fourth on the PS is helpful, I don’t see anyone capable of being the fourth but not as concerned about that.

Hasty, probably Watt, and maybe Jennings are all PS candidates. I liked what Watt showed against the Giants.

TE we have nothing after our first 2, did Bell make one play this camp or preseason?

OL, we need a third tackle and we need A third and fourth Guard.

Bryant is OT3. Wallace is probably OG3, or maybe Brown. Jacobs, Strange, and Sow are all on a very thin bubble. Can Lindstrom play guard?

WR wouldn’t it be surprise if we have our eyes on someone to add more explosion to be our 6th or 7th?

Yes it would be surprising. It would be less surprising to have Bourne make the roster, because of his history with Josh. There’s just not going to be roster altering talent at WR from other teams cuts.

CB,S I think we have 4 to 5 corners so we need a 5th and 6th.
I think Minor is PS material but there is better out there.

Austin, Battle, and Bolden are 4-5-6 behind Gonzo, Davis, and Jones. If DJ James gets healthy he could even be ahead of Austin. Brandon Crossley seems likely to go to PS, along with Bolden and maybe Minor.

S- if Dugger is gone we need a 4th and 5th safety between roster and PS.

Dugger will stay, behind Peppers, Hawkins, and Woodson. Schooler will make the roster and Pettus and Epps seem destined for PS.

My biggest concerns third string O line, third string D line, third string DBs, third string QB.

KICKER!

Mine is IOL, then QB2 followed by kicker. DL and DBs don’t worry me enough to speak of. I’d be okay with Wooldredge as QB3 but can’t worry about that while QB2 is a festering sore.

 

[BobDigital]

As for the WW the only spots I see as upgradable are IOL, QB and 6th CB if they want one.

Not many nfl quality players got cut after camp, most are traded even if just for a 7th.

I don't think we find any help at WR on the WW. The problem is the top of the roster there, not the bottom. The bottom is actually really good.

3rd TE probably isn't happening and I think the need is over stated. We could use a FB though. One may shake loose. How many teams have a back up as good as Hooper? I think expecting 3 starters deep at that spot is a lot.

Teams don't let good tackles walk for free at this point and frankly Jacobs has been okay and knows the system. I am fairly okay with Bryant as the 3rd... Very nice pick value.

OIL could easily be improved I am hoping for a trade and pick up on the WW. Let everyone but Wilson and Bradbury walk. Bradbury has issues but he has started well at times. May as well keep him. But Brown, Robinson 1/2, Sow, Wallace... Replace them all at this point. Admit you messed up and start fresh with better players.

 

[n1997y]

As for the WW the only spots I see as upgradable are IOL, QB and 6th CB if they want one.

Not many nfl quality players got cut after camp, most are traded even if just for a 7th.

I don't think we find any help at WR on the WW. The problem is the top of the roster there, not the bottom. The bottom is actually really good.

3rd TE probably isn't happening and I think the need is over stated. We could use a FB though. One may shake loose. How many teams have a back up as good as Hooper? I think expecting 3 starters deep at that spot is a lot.

Trans don't let good tackles walk for free at this point and frankly Jacobs has been okay and knows the system. I am fairly okay with Bryant as the 3rd... Very nice pick value.

OIL could easily be improved I am hoping for a trade and pick up on the WW. Let everyone but Wilson and Bradbury walk. Bradbury has issues but he has started well at times. May as well keep him. But Brown, Robinson 1/2, Sow, Wallace... Replace them all at this point. Admit you messed up and start fresh with better players.

I agree with most of what you said, with some minor quibbles.

Definitely agree about possible upgrade at QB, but I’m really unsure about IOL because it depends on who comes available.

I don’t think there will be any CB cut that will be better than we have in James/Austin/Battle/Bolden, and that’s seven. Might be a better prospect than Crossley and Minor but they’d need time on PS to prove even that IMO.

I’m skeptical that there will be enough better IOL players available among other teams castoffs for us to jettison everybody you mentioned and start over as the season opens. Even if there are there’s going to be an inevitable learning curve bringing them on board. I’d say keep Brown and Wallace, at least on the PS, so the cupboard is not completely bare. Bring in the best available IOL to be found on the scrap heap and see if any cream rises. Don’t expect any significant improvement before next draft.

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

I think the talent level in the NFL has dropped significantly, because it's been years since you could find decent players among the cutdowns.

Those days are gone when teams were letting go of talented players.

Probably because they barely practice. They're more concerned about being bigger stronger faster

 

[DarrylS]

Apparent that the depth of this team is seriously lacking so much so last nights exhibition game was unwatchable, the 1st quarter was rife with Jaxson Dart testicle watching.. never once did Michaels or Herbstreit set the defense of the Patriots..
While the NFL continues to rake in the cash by using all of these streaming outlets, give me Zolak and the McCourty twins every day..

 

[State]

The interior Ol is paramount.

You don’t like Ben Brown and Garrett Bradbury as your starters? I don’t blame you. And a backup QB. Good, young talent a team is tryin to slip through?

 

[Clonamery]

Apparent that the depth of this team is seriously lacking so much so last nights exhibition game was unwatchable, the 1st quarter was rife with Jaxson Dart testicle watching.. never once did Michaels or Herbstreit set the defense of the Patriots..
While the NFL continues to rake in the cash by using all of these streaming outlets, give me Zolak and the McCourty twins every day..

My guess is when talking with the Patriots it became apparent to TV people that were was no effort into gameplanning or playing players of note to frame a story or some reason the general audience could stay tuned for. They went with the Giants and the rookie QB and the Giants because they had a home crowd etc. and seemed to be into playing the game unlike the Pats.

 

[Steve102]

Left Guard
Center
Backup QB
RB #4
FB
TE #3

That's a lot to ask for at this time of the year, but that's the state of a rebuilding team.

Haven't focused on any other teams enough to know who might be waived that would provide this team with an upgrade.

I would think in year one, look for players that the staff has familiarity with. Think plug and play types, even if it's for a handful of snaps in every other game.

 

[PatsFan2]

Just watched the game…FF through the commercials and halftime was nice.

Man…I gotta say Bedard is spot on.

We have no depth.

Our second string is too full of bad football players.

Probably too much to ask, but I deadass think the Pats should replace 7-10 players who initial make it with cuts from other teams. It’s that bad.

Also, I’m not sure we have a backup QB at all.

Dobbs has been awful and wooldridge is a less talented Zappe with the batted balls.

O-line backups are atrocious.

Still a long way to go rebuilding this roster.

Give me Winston or Devito...the Giants might have an extra TE we could use.

 

[PatsFan2]

Left Guard
Center
Backup QB
RB #4
FB
TE #3

That's a lot to ask for at this time of the year, but that's the state of a rebuilding team.

Haven't focused on any other teams enough to know who might be waived that would provide this team with an upgrade.

Will RB 4 even see the Field?? I think we are all set there.

 

[Toofy]

Did Wallace or sow show any potential for improvement over the season?not sure if picking waiver claim for 53 on interior line is way to go

 

[Sciz]

On the first day of waiver claims after cutdown day last year, 4 offensive linemen were claimed. They went on to play 972 offensive snaps.

951 for the Patriots
17 for the Texans
3 for the Buccaneers
1 for the Panthers

So uh, let’s go in with realistic expectations here.

 

[State]

Did anyone else think the drafted kicker Andres Goingright lost the starter role to Romo Leg with that 46-yard shank?

Don't draft kickers. Ryland and now possibly Andres G?

And the long snapper was better but he should never ever ever ever have been drafted. He's undersized and nothing special. Makes me miss the Squid Cardona.

 

[BobDigital]

My ideal situation over the next 10 days.

#1 Trade Jennings for an equally good interior offensive lineman. He should be able to get a quality back up who can spot start reliably.

#2 Trade Dugger. eat money and maybe throw in a pick to for pick back. If we could flip Digger and 6th for a 4th I'd be happy with that.

#3 Claim one of these QBs off the WW.

#4 Potential get another IOL off the WW... Ben Brown to PS or he can be the 10th if they want a 10th on the active roster.