OT: Eagles Hire Matt Patricia

[AQPE]

He bit off more than he could chew last year.

I’ll let myself out

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

?..

At Miami, at Denver, many times when the offense struggled, yet young learning Tom would still make enough plays to win games.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Yet, they were very effective with Zappe as quarterback.

...until he fell back to earth.

 

[Real fan 02]

At Miami, at Denver, many times when the offense struggled, yet young learning Tom would still make enough plays to win games.

Oh absolutely, sorry I had gotten confused on the post. #12 is In a class by himself.. yes absolutely he showed his clutch ability and greatness very early on in his career.. however his OC was an alpha in wiess.. he didn't have one good promising season, and then get set up to fail in his 2nd.. like Mac did. I was just making the point that yes while Zappe given the circumstances he was in the GB game coming in and playing well, the Browns game, the lions game. He made some great plays early in the bears game and then they caught on to him. I like Mac and zappe both.

 

[stcjones]

At least the Eagles are smart enough to employ him on the defense.

Yeah BB legacy was stained after his coaching debacle with Fatt Matt and judge last year….one of the worst decisions by a NFL head coach ever as far as a coaching/scheming move…I’m glad Patricia is gone

 

[stcjones]

Scapegoat.

Matty P is no worse than any other OC in the league.

They all refuse to commit to the run.

If Bill had kept Zappe in there everyone would be conjuring up excuses for our success (at least playoffs).

Are you serious here…? “Matty P is no worse than any other OC in the league?” Obviously, he is not an OC…… I would agree with you, if you were saying that he was on par with many DC in league right now that are average/mediocre

 

[DaBruinz]

Too bad they didn't hire Judge and Achord as well.. *sigh*

 

[Real fan 02]

Too bad they didn't hire Judge and Achord as well.. *sigh*

I'm sure a REAL offensive coach like Siriani won't allow him anywhere near the offensive side.

 

[Jim Beankie]

...until he fell back to earth.

I wouldn't call 2 bad quarters where he wasn't even the starter falling back to earth. Although in that sense it was like Mac's rookie game against NO.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I wouldn't call 2 bad quarters where he wasn't even the starter falling back to earth. Although in that sense it was like Mac's rookie game against NO.

I understand what you mean but if you look at a couple of passes previously they were awful and Parker and Myers made remarkable catches to score. So it worked out in spite of bad QBing.

That is not to say that Zappe is bad, I love his game, presence, and attitude. Zappe was a rookie, let's see how he does this camp.

 

[Patjew]

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He did the job for us in multiple Super Bowls

and he wore the clown nose T-shirt

and with that beard he would fit right in in the Red Sox' dugout

I find him to be an arrogant prick, although he did wave to me once so that was neat.

I liked the T-shirt. I wore it too.

If you give him credit for those Super Bowl wins I won’t try to take that away from you.

I thought his defenses were mediocre. And he took the job on offense and was shockingly bad at it.

This is huge addition by subtraction and I am THRILLED to see him go.

You can like him. I hate him as a coach.

 

[upstater1]

Oh absolutely, sorry I had gotten confused on the post. #12 is In a class by himself.. yes absolutely he showed his clutch ability and greatness very early on in his career.. however his OC was an alpha in wiess.. he didn't have one good promising season, and then get set up to fail in his 2nd.. like Mac did. I was just making the point that yes while Zappe given the circumstances he was in the GB game coming in and playing well, the Browns game, the lions game. He made some great plays early in the bears game and then they caught on to him. I like Mac and zappe both.

Um, well, his second season they missed the playoffs, they had the same passer rating (85), and the same yds per game.

But I agree overall. One wonders though what a barely competent QB would have done on the 2002 team. They won 9 games.

 

[upstater1]

I find him to be an arrogant prick, although he did wave to me once so that was neat.

I liked the T-shirt. I wore it too.

If you give him credit for those Super Bowl wins I won’t try to take that away from you.

I thought his defenses were mediocre. And he took the job on offense and was shockingly bad at it.

This is huge addition by subtraction and I am THRILLED to see him go.

You can like him. I hate him as a coach.

The one thing I would have to disagree with is the bit about mediocre defenses. I'm not sure how you came up with that. In 2016, they were the #1 defense in the league.

I think the debacle of the Eagles Super Bowl has twisted us a little bit, because the D in that 4 year span was pretty good. Before that, not so much. But they were still building after losing all their stars of the first dynasty.

 

[Pape]

Based upon watching the other offenses in the league as well.

And, it's been heavily reported that

-The Patriots were a laughingstock for thirty years before 1990

-Drew Blesdsoe is the second best quarterback in Patriots history

-The Patriots taped the Rams' walkthrough prior to Super Bowl 36

-Tom Brady and the Patriots did something to manipulate footballs and violate rules

and on and on

the issue with your list is this -

Drew is the second best qb in New Englands history - that is indisputable... and yeah, ive heard your argument and its bullspit

Tom did everything he could to manipulate the footballs to his advantage... every qb does... it just wasnt what roger and co claimed he was doing

 

[Patjew]

The one thing I would have to disagree with is the bit about mediocre defenses. I'm not sure how you came up with that. In 2016, they were the #1 defense in the league.

I think the debacle of the Eagles Super Bowl has twisted us a little bit, because the D in that 4 year span was pretty good. Before that, not so much. But they were still building after losing all their stars of the first dynasty.

I overstated the “mediocre” part to make an exaggerated point. Come on, give me a break… I don’t expect anyone to really accept what I’m talking about

 

[Jlaff]

...until he fell back to earth.

... where his buddy Mac Jones was already hanging out since 2021.

 

[captain stone]

...until he fell back to earth.

I wonder how far he would've fallen if he had been allowed to practice with the rest of the starters for the entire week...

 

[Scotty]

Can't wait to see Matty P run up the Rocky Steps and punch the air

 

[RobertWeathers]

I wouldn't call 2 bad quarters where he wasn't even the starter falling back to earth. Although in that sense it was like Mac's rookie game against NO.

I would. Doesn't have the arm strength.

Without PA he's exposed

 

[RobertWeathers]

... where his buddy Mac Jones was already hanging out since 2021.

Not accurate. Mac was more than fine his rookie year.