Brady: I wouldn't have had the success I've had without Bill

[Pape]

Bill & Tom were the perfect storm of coach and player.

Both driven, both willing to do what was needed to win. The perfect pairing the NFL has never seen before, nor will it see it again imo.

 

[Pats1971]

Depends on how broadly you define talent. Brady grew a ton of football and QB skills he did not have in 2000.

Yeah but constantly trying to improve. Brady is 44 and still tries to get better at things. You dont teach that.

 

[venecol]

The Bradyites don't want to respect Bill though. For some reason, they think giving Bill a lot of credit means detracting from Brady, which it doesn't. In their view, Brady single handidly won 6 super bowls and everyone else was there for the ride. It's basically superhero worship.

Dude stop sucking ass. Nobody likes you.

 

[NFL Mystique]

you stupid little punk....I FORGOT more about Patriots history than your pinbrain will EVER comprehend. NICK DIMENGO you idiotic moron? "A Jet coach standing next to Belechick heard him say some things"???} Are you a Downs Syndrome sufferer/ Or just a complete fackin' tool troll who THINKS he's "really kewl" bringing up horseshyt from some nobody about 20 years ago...which YOU never knew anything about. Instead of trolling US with THIS revisionist history bullshyt let US troll YOU with REAL stories about YOUR phucking sexual assault artist and woman beater that you cheer for every week...you know, the bug that's part of YOUR sig...dyam punkass

The irony here is so rich.

My Niece is available to give you some spelling lessons.

Just let her know which mental ward you are at.

She's 13 btw.

 

[NFL Mystique]

you stupid little punk....I FORGOT more about Patriots history than your pinbrain will EVER comprehend. NICK DIMENGO you idiotic moron? "A Jet coach standing next to Belechick heard him say some things"???} Are you a Downs Syndrome sufferer/ Or just a complete fackin' tool troll who THINKS he's "really kewl" bringing up horseshyt from some nobody about 20 years ago...which YOU never knew anything about. Instead of trolling US with THIS revisionist history bullshyt let US troll YOU with REAL stories about YOUR phucking sexual assault artist and woman beater that you cheer for every week...you know, the bug that's part of YOUR sig...dyam punkass

Um....seriously?

 

[Pape]

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really? you are going to walk down that path dude?

just stop.

 

[NFL Mystique]

really? you are going to walk down that path dude?

just stop.

Well the Jokester blasted me for certain players I cheer for.

 

[Pape]

Well the Jokester blasted me for certain players I cheer for.

just stop. Its easy.

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[NFL Mystique]

just stop. Its easy.

.

That poster is a maniac

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

The quote is from Mike Westhoff, who is very well known for his headline quotes about the Patriots. It really makes no sense as a standalone quote, unless Belichick has basically given up and is sobbing to an opposing coach. Have a strong suspicion that this overheard discussion, if it’s even in good faith, omits some major qualifier like “If we don’t figure out to fix this team, then...” or “If we keep getting embarrassed like that…” or even, if it follows from the first part, he may be saying he’s going to get fired over his doubts about Bledsoe.

 

[Wax Frog]

Hopefully, we can all agree on that.

Forum food fight in 3...2...1...

 

[Pape]

Stop what?

That maniac blasted me for no reason.

I never said anything to him before that.

a chiefs fan, posting crap on a Patriots forum, and you get your feelings hurt because someone calls you out on it? so you drop stories about ahern and other bad stuff here?

gtfo...

 

[DaBruinz]

Brady also did the work and got his chance.

Plenty of guys get drafted and do nothing. Some are very talented. Others not so much. Talent isn't enough in football.

And let's be honest. Bill Belichick is likely unemployed if Mo Lewis doesn't happen. I researched and Bill told Jets employees coaches were putting their house on the market. Then fate struck.

In the end, it's moot. Brady did happen. Best HC/QB combo in history.

You did research? Really? Who did you ACTUALLY talk to in the Jets organization from 2001? Or did you find the information online?

OH.. You were too lazy to click on the link from BroBible to the actual NESN article. But even then, you have it wrong. You have disgraced coach Mike Westhoff supposedly repeating something he heard the year before The problem is that neither Herm Edwards nor Bill Belichick confirmed his story.. So that's all it is. A f'in story. Something Westhoff conjured up to give himself 5 minutes of importance.

In case you were wondering why Westhoff was disgraced. He was the special teams coach that instructed players and staff to line-up illegaly along the sidelines during certain punts.

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You also have to consider that Mike Westhoff blames the "Jets' downfall" on Mark Sanchez. Not on crappy coaching. Not on crappy drafting by the GMs, but the QB they drafted who was arguably the best QB the Jets had from 2000-2018.

Mike Westhoff Destroys Former Jets QB Mark Sanchez

Mike Westhoff didn't hold back about the state of the New York Jets.

jetsxfactor.com

The BIGGER problem is that you're a lying sack of . NEITHER article had Westhoff saying that Belichick told them he was putting his house on the market. So, Joker had every right to "take you to the woodshed and beat you".


Newsflash: Bill wouldn't have told Jets' employees a damn thing that was truthful. BB is known for his mind games. For exaggerating something to the coach ahead of a game in hopes that the opposing coach gets over-confident.

Fun Fact. Belichick said that Brady and Bledsoe were pretty much even coming out of camp in 2001. There were coaches and fans who said that Brady out-played Bledsoe in camp. Belichick went with Bledsoe to start the season because management, at Kraft's insistence, had just minted Bledsoe as the $100M QB. If you think that Belichick wouldn't have switched from Bledsoe had Bledsoe continued the mediocre play from the season before you're fooling yourself.

 

[SVN]

Huh?

What I posted was an article.

Patriots coaches were fearful of losing their jobs.

Message the author of the article if you think it's BS

You know, if you google anything you will find an article for exactly what you are looking for. Doesnt mean its true.
The wickersham nonsense is a classic example .A book written by talking to " a confidant" and "a person close to" is accepted as true these days. Unfortunately thats how it works these days- write something and let the party in question defend it and then parse the defense and create another story out of it.

 

[NFL Mystique]

a chiefs fan, posting crap on a Patriots forum, and you get your feelings hurt because someone calls you out on it? so you drop stories about ahern and other bad stuff here?

gtfo...

How's it crap?

It's an article.

If you don't like it take it up with the author.

 

[Koma]

Spoiler: The "Bill" Brady is referring to is Bill O'Brien.

 

[venecol]

You know, if you google anything you will find an article for exactly what you are looking for. Doesnt mean its true.
The wickersham nonsense is a classic example .A book written by talking to " a confidant" and "a person close to" is accepted as true these days. Unfortunately thats how it works these days- write something and let the party in question defend it and then parse the defense and create another story out of it.

Wow dude, that's so true. Lmao

 

[NFL Mystique]

You did research? Really? Who did you ACTUALLY talk to in the Jets organization from 2001? Or did you find the information online?

Newsflash: Bill wouldn't have told Jets' employees a damn thing.

Fun Fact. Belichick said that Brady and Bledsoe were pretty much even coming out of camp in 2001. There were coaches and fans who said that Brady out-played Bledsoe in camp. Belichick went with Bledsoe to start the season because management, at Kraft's insistence, had just minted him as the $100M QB. If you think that Belichick wouldn't have switched from Bledsoe had Bledsoe continued the mediocre play from the season before you're fooling yourself.

You know, if you google anything you will find an article for exactly what you are looking for. Doesnt mean its true.
The wickersham nonsense is a classic example .A book written by talking to " a confidant" and "a person close to" is accepted as true these days. Unfortunately thats how it works these days- write something and let the party in question defend it and then parse the defense and create another story out of it.

So never post an article again?

You can say that for any story.

 

[DaBruinz]

Well the Jokester blasted me for certain players I cheer for.

He Blasted you for being a troll and posting a lie that you claimed you "did research on". No. You didn't do research.. You posted an outright lie and then claimed that an article supported you. The problem is that the article didn't support your claim that BB told the Jets' coaches that he'd put his house on the market. He said that Bledsoe would get him fired.

Clearly, you have an issue. Either with reading comprehension or with quoting something exactly. Either way, the fact that you have doubled and tripled down on the lie puts you in the TROLL category until such time as you show you're not a troll.

 

[DaBruinz]

The irony here is so rich.

My Niece is available to give you some spelling lessons.

Just let her know which mental ward you are at.

She's 13 btw.

Maybe you should tell everyone which mental ward you're in for your mythomania.