OT: Random Kudos on the use of "Recency Bias"

[The Brandon Five]

Besides SB 51? There’s the 1958 NFL Championship, I remember 10 or so years ago the Packers beat the Seahawks on a pick 6 (the “we want the ball and we’re gonna win!” Hasselbeck game), the Panthers walked off against the Rams in the same year we would later beat them in SB38, and I remember good ole’ Flipper Anderson running off the field straight into the locker room in the Meadowlands one year.

SB51 - OT
1958 NFL Championship - OT
Hasselbeck made his famous quote while they were doing the flip for--wait for it---OT
Flipper Anderson ran off the field b/c the score was in OT

 

[Deus Irae]

Greatest baseball player ever - Babe Ruth
Greatest basketball player ever - Bill Russell
Greatest hockey player ever - Bobby Orr (defenseman), Wayne Gretzky (forward), #3 Gordy Howe
Greatest football player ever - Jim Brown or Tom Brady
Greatest sporting event ever - USA over Russia in 1980 Olympics hockey
Greatest U.S. president ever - George Washington

Screw recency bias

 

[XLIX]

SB51 - OT
1958 NFL Championship - OT
Hasselbeck made his famous quote while they were doing the flip for--wait for it---OT
Flipper Anderson ran off the field b/c the score was in OT

Yeah, no fooling. They're still walk off touchdowns. In fact, those are true walk off touchdowns whereas yesterday technically isn't since they still had to run a conversion.

 

[Steve102]

Lots are in OT, many are not. Did not look for playoffs vs regular season, but seems common enough from that to make it moot.

These aren't all walkoff's, but:

Where does Stefon Diggs' miracle rank among most thrilling game-winners in playoff history?

I have no issue with Franco Harris being #1 on this list, but White #18? I will give you the fact that it is a lousy 2 yard run and not a thing of beauty (aesthetically speaking. It IS a thing of beauty to all of us here), but 18th?

 

[fnordcircle]

Back in my day people didn't have recency bias, now I see it all the time.

No true middle aged person would post this.

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

I have recency bias in sports because the television flushed so much money and national attention into the games the leagues (less so with baseball) were changed. 50's era NFL leagues had 12 teams and middle class salaries. Not only will you not attract the best athletes to fill out rosters, but winning titles was far easier. Just to win a conference championship today you have to be better than 15 other teams, 31 to get a ring. They beat out 11 teams half full of guys who play the game like a part time job.

 

[Deus Irae]

Not only will you not attract the best athletes to fill out rosters, but winning titles was far easier. Just to win a conference championship today you have to be better than 15 other teams, 31 to get a ring. They beat out 11 teams half full of guys who play the game like a part time job.

That's countered by each team being comprised of higher level players, on a percentage basis. x/16 v. x/32

 

[borg]

Last night was special...it was stunning...it was surreal.
I have it in the same box as Adam V's snowy FG
If either occurred in a SB, then we're approaching the peak and I would put the Minny catch at the very top because 6 is better than 3.

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

That's countered by each team being comprised of higher level players, on a percentage basis. x/16 v. x/32

If there were only 2 teams today or 2 teams in 1950 they'd both have equal chances of winning a championship. And the chances would be very good.

Even getting into talent level it's not as simple as saying the best 600 players vs the best 1600 means a higher concentration of talent. The best 1600 out of a larger international population of able men who are willing to work for an exorbitant salary and fame is more exclusive than the best 600 Americans who are willing to do the job for middle class pay and little fame.

 

[Deus Irae]

No it isn't,

Yes, it is. Sorry, but that's just the reality of the situation. It's the downside of expansion.

 

[The Brandon Five]

Yeah, no fooling. They're still walk off touchdowns. In fact, those are true walk off touchdowns whereas yesterday technically isn't since they still had to run a conversion.

A walk-off in OT is not that exceptional, that is how it used to work and still does if the other team already had a possession. A walk-off in regulation is very rare.

 

[Former Fan]

A walk-off in OT is not that exceptional, that is how it used to work and still does if the other team already had a possession. A walk-off in regulation is very rare.

If you score a TD in OT, game over regardless of if the other team possessed it.

 

[Joker]

Norman Einstein? NORMAN Einstein?????????????????????????

I getting a severe case of recency bias as of right now!

 

[TruthSeeker]

Last night was special...it was stunning...it was surreal.
I have it in the same box as Adam V's snowy FG
If either occurred in a SB, then we're approaching the peak and I would put the Minny catch at the very top because 6 is better than 3.

Was it a great throw? No.
Was it a great catch? No.
Was it a great run? No.
Was it a great moment? Absolutely.

Was it an awful defensive mistake? Yup.

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

Yes, it is. Sorry, but that's just the reality of the situation. It's the downside of expansion.

How exactly would they have a better chance of winning a championship in a league with 32 vs 12?

x/16 v. x/32

In championships per year x=1 in both cases making x/32 a smaller number. I don't understand your math here.

 

[Deus Irae]

How exactly would they have a better chance of winning a championship in a league with 32 vs 12?

You're assuming that each team actually has the same odds of victory. That's obviously not true, and it's a mistake that people always make when pimping difficulties in larger leagues. When you bloat a league, you make each individual player more important, and you make it more difficult for the "have nots" to become the "haves".

In championships per year x=1 in both cases making x/32 a smaller number. I don't understand your math here.

16 teams fighting for the best players versus 32 teams fighting for the best players. Fewer teams mean more stacked rosters. This has been demonstrated in sports, time and again.

Large leagues/small leagues both have their points of difficulty. If you really want to look at impact, look at ease and frequency of player movement, especially elite players.

 

[XLIX]

A walk-off in OT is not that exceptional,

I thought it was pretty exceptional when the Patriots did it this past February, but I guess that's just me....

 

[The Brandon Five]

If you score a TD in OT, game over regardless of if the other team possessed it.

True. It also used to be the case that you could walk off after a FG, but since we are talking about walk-off TDs that is irrelevant.

 

[The Brandon Five]

I thought it was pretty exceptional when the Patriots did it this past February, but I guess that's just me....

Coming back from 25 down was the most exceptional thing I had seen in a Super Bowl. The fact that it was the first OT in SB history was also exceptional. That a TD ended the game in OT was exhilarating, but like I said having a walk-off in OT is not exceptional in and of itself.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Last night was special...it was stunning...it was surreal.
I have it in the same box as Adam V's snowy FG
If either occurred in a SB, then we're approaching the peak and I would put the Minny catch at the very top because 6 is better than 3.

Instant Mini-classic.

Norman Einstein? NORMAN Einstein?????????????????????????

I getting a severe case of recency bias as of right now!

Indeed. Was trying to find this on YouTube...

One of the jockocracy (I think maybe Joe Theismann) was calling a game, and he said he didn't think some coach (maybe Belichick) was a genius... because football coaches aren't geniuses, a genius is someone like "Norman Einstein"

I thought this was a pan-football-fan reference

Edit: Found you the print version

RIGHTING THE WRONGS: Joe Theismann