Rodney harrison reacts to moss trade

[Patspsycho]

Remember when the Pats signed him and most of us said that he had one chance to get his act together? We said that if he became a problem that BB would never stand for it and he would be gone. After all it was only a 4th round pick, well worth the gamble. Moss gave us some terrific football, but that time finally came. He became a problem and he's gone. Just like we said.

And it wasn't exactly a loss. We got him for a 4th and let him go for a 3rd, so that in itself is a profit.

 

[UofApatsfan]

WOW. Nothing like re-writing history there. It was NOT Rodney who got lazy. It was Asante Samuel. Rodney did everything he could to make sure Tyree didn't make that catch. It was Samuel who let Tyree get open TWICE. Once on that catch and one earlier on a TD.

Rodney has every right to be talking about not winning a SB with Moss because it was SAMUEL who was the reason they didn't win.

Get your facts straight.

Any safety remotely good in coverage breaks that play up. Samuel screwed up, that's a given. If he were pulling the they never won with Moss card I'd have the same reaction. They both screwed up on that play. The reason Rodney was back there was to prevent a big play like that from happening.

 

[Rob0729]

Every former player who still have friends still on the team who has commented on the trade say this is a good move. I don't think that is just a coincidence. I think they have heard far more than we have about how Moss has been this year in the locker room. And I don't think it is just Belichick spin. They probably heard it from guys like Brady, Welker, Wilfork, etc.

 

[mgcolby]

Sorry, but Rodney of all people disparaging Moss with talk about how "Belichick didn't win any superbowls with Moss" is sickening to read. Last I checked, it was Moss who caught the go ahead touchdown in the superbowl, and it was Rodney who got lazy and let a no name scrub catch a ball with his f'n helmet. Rodney has no right to be saying that when he's the reason they never won a superbowl with Moss.

Actually it was Asante who quite on his man, and Rodney ran over to cover him. So.....

Edit: Didn't see that this was beaten to death above. But you must be a Johnny come lately to think Harrison was not good in coverage. Good luck with that premise. I'll let others tear that apart.

 

[dhamz]

WOW. Nothing like re-writing history there. It was NOT Rodney who got lazy. It was Asante Samuel. Rodney did everything he could to make sure Tyree didn't make that catch. It was Samuel who let Tyree get open TWICE. Once on that catch and one earlier on a TD.

Rodney has every right to be talking about not winning a SB with Moss because it was SAMUEL who was the reason they didn't win.

Get your facts straight.

Well if we want to get facts straight it was actually Junior getting fooled horribly on play action that resulted in the first Tyree TD but you are right that Rodney shouldn't be blamed at all.

 

[UofApatsfan]

From where I am sitting, you are the one who has any right to talk on the subject because you just don't know wtf you are talking about. You have your facts WRONG on so many levels.

First and foremost, Rodney did not get suspended for Roids. He got suspended for HGH, which is totally different than roids. You'd know that if you had a clue.

Secondly, Rodney was doing his best to cover up for Samuel's laziness on defense. No sane person would blame Rodney for that. In fact, any intelligent person would acknowledge that it was Samuel who allowed the initial tying TD to Tyree that forced the Pats to score with Moss. And it was also Samuel who didn't make the EASY sideline interception that would have ended the game. And it was Samuel's laziness that didn't allow the Pats to move him onto Plaxico Burress instead of having a severely injured Hobbs covering him.

So, keep spewing your revisionist history. All it will do is earn you the ire of people and cause you to end up on ignore lists.

lol put me on your ignore list I could care less. Samuel screwed up on a much larger scale but that doesn't excuse the fact Rodney coulda easily broken up that play. If you wanna play the semantics game talking about who screwed up more, or the difference between HGH and steroids, fine. Samuel is irrelevant to this thread, so there's no point in bringing up how bad he was in the superbowl.

 

[spacecrime]

Between him and Bruschi... it doesn't sound like anyone thinks this is a horrible move.

Well, anyone that actually was in that locker room at any point during Moss's tenure with the team.

Of guys not in the locker room, Skip Bayless thinks it was terrible and so does Pete Priscoe, so that is encouraging. Of course, Fleger likes it, and that is bothersome.

 

[Nikolai]

Are some of you guys talking about that great 2001 defense? The one that gave up 23 or more points 5 times in the first 10 games? I think people remember it fondly due to winning the SB and ultimately what it became in the following years. But that defense went through its growing pains too.

Jesus, will you stop with the common sense?! People are trying to have a nervous breakdown here!

 

[D-Money]

Good move long term but bad move short term.People here act like we have a QB that has 12 years left in his career.You never know with injuries down the line.

 

[DaBruinz]

Any safety remotely good in coverage breaks that play up. Samuel screwed up, that's a given. If he were pulling the they never won with Moss card I'd have the same reaction. They both screwed up on that play. The reason Rodney was back there was to prevent a big play like that from happening.

Again, you don't know what you are talking about. You're evaluation of the play is so wrong it's amazing. Rodney came from the other side of the field to attempt to make the play because he saw Samuel's screw-up.

You are just making sh!t up at this point because you can't admit that you're wrong.

Also, would you please stop taking Harrison's quote out of context. It only makes you look ignorant. It's already been pointed out to you that you've done so. Harrison did NOT say that Moss was the reason they'd not won a SB. You've only decided to take it that way because you have a burr in your panties or something and just can't deal with facts.

 

[Frezo]

Again, I don't mind giving up Moss, but don't be a chump. I guarantee the Minnesota brass was high fiving and laughing afterwards. All teams know they can take this guy in a trade. I love the guy, but I love the coach. The GM, not as much. Whether he's trading down for "value", or getting 50 cents on the dollar in trades, not so much.

Trade partners are limited though. We're not going to trade within our division. It's out of the question. There are teams we won't trade him to like the Colts and Steelers. Then there are teams that either don't want him or can't afford him or don't have a QB good enough to make a difference. There may not have been many options besides Minny. I also don't think that Favre has enough left in his arm to take full advantage of Moss as an elite deep threat. We'll see when the Vikes come in here, but I'm not nervous about a Favre lead team.

 

[DaBruinz]

lol put me on your ignore list I could care less. Samuel screwed up on a much larger scale but that doesn't excuse the fact Rodney coulda easily broken up that play. If you wanna play the semantics game talking about who screwed up more, or the difference between HGH and steroids, fine. Samuel is irrelevant to this thread, so there's no point in bringing up how bad he was in the superbowl.

Listen. Rodney did his best to cover up for SAMUEL. However, that wasn't Harrison's assignment. That is what you clearly do not have the ability to grasp.

YOU are the one who decided to try and re-write history with your BS. That is why Samuel got brought up. If you don't like the fact that people are using facts to set you straight, you can always just stop posting. Then you can live in your fantasy world and your ignorance and you won't have to worry about people correcting you clear misinterpretations.

 

[UofApatsfan]

Listen. Rodney did his best to cover up for SAMUEL. However, that wasn't Harrison's assignment. That is what you clearly do not have the ability to grasp.

YOU are the one who decided to try and re-write history with your BS. That is why Samuel got brought up. If you don't like the fact that people are using facts to set you straight, you can always just stop posting. Then you can live in your fantasy world and your ignorance and you won't have to worry about people correcting you clear misinterpretations.

I'm still waiting to be put on your ignore list son.

He didn't directly say they lost because of Moss, but his comments about "they set a bunch of records" seemed condescending. That's just my opinion tho. If you don't like my opinion, feel free to put me on your ignore list, seeing that you get offended easily as hell.

 

[tombonneau]

Rodney making loads of sense.

Clearly, he's not a registered poster here.

I wouldn't say that. In literally the same breath he says:

"You have to understand, too, Belichick didn't win any Super Bowls with Moss. They set a bunch of records offensively, but Belichick realized the locker room is more important than one individual. Randy Moss did a lot, he was a great leader in the locker room but at the end of the day the Patriots gave him an opportunity that he didn't have when he came to the Oakland Raiders.

So which is it? He was a bad influence or a leader?

The more it unfolds, the more it seems the players liked having Randy around, but the coaches didn't.

 

[D-Money]

Cant believe this team is wasting away Brady's prime years to think about 3 to 4 years down the road.

 

[PatriotsReign]

Are some of you guys talking about that great 2001 defense? The one that gave up 23 or more points 5 times in the first 10 games? I think people remember it fondly due to winning the SB and ultimately what it became in the following years. But that defense went through its growing pains too.

Thanks mg! I was "trying" to make the same point several times today amid all the "boo-hoo, Randy's gone" bs. But you brought facts to back it up!

To all those teary-eyed over the loss of Randy....

F%#@ RANDY MOSS!!

Man, that felt good!

 

[Nikolai]

So which is it? He was a bad influence or a leader?.

He did say "was" when he referred to Randy's locker room bona fides. Sometimes things change.

 

[DaBruinz]

I'm still waiting to be put on your ignore list son.

He didn't directly say they lost because of Moss, but his comments about "they set a bunch of records" seemed condescending. That's just my opinion tho. If you don't like my opinion, feel free to put me on your ignore list, seeing that you get offended easily as hell.

First of all, I get offended by people like yourself who insist on making things up as a "pretense" to having an opinion. People who insist on ignoring reality, like you have done up to this point. You are the one who talked out your rear end about Rodney's comments. And while it's your "opinion", you are also entitled to any reactions you get from voicing that opinion.

Secondaly, His comments about setting records and the SB results were in relation to the locker-room issues. It's called weighing the facts. And facts are something you've already shown you don't let get in the way of your opinion. They weren't digs at Moss. But, clearly you felt they were even though there isn't really anything to support it. Instead, you throw up BS and attack Rodney's credibility with unfounded opinions that have no basis in fact.

BTW, it would be nice if you actually read what was said instead of ducking and dodgfing or just spewing more garbage because I did not say I was going to put you on ignore. I said it would get you there. I was referring to other people.

 

[DaBruinz]

So which is it? He was a bad influence or a leader?

The more it unfolds, the more it seems the players liked having Randy around, but the coaches didn't.

If you go an listen to Steve Burton's interview, it's clear that Randy was doing whatever he could to disrupt the coaches doing their jobs, plus he was doing things that hurt the Pats with their sponsors.

From what Burton mentioned, the Pats actually got in trouble with the league for Randy's National Anthem antics during Week 1. And Randy also interrupted the Special Teams huddle to "fire them up". The problem was that Scott O'Brien was right in the middle of last minute prep with the Special Teams guys.

 

[PatriotsReign]

Rodney Harrison reacts to Moss' departure from New England | ProFootballTalk.com

The bottom-line here is that Rodney is smack, dead-on with his analysis. Armchair people like us don't have a clue compared to Rodney because he was in that locker room and on the field with Randy.

I miss Rodney 10 times more than Randy.