AD talks, says he called in advance that he would be late, watched film at home

[Patspsycho]

First off, I offered up a hypothetical. Not a written in stone FACT. Secondaly, I love Tedy, but he needs to shut his trap as much as AD does. He doesn't know the whole story.

Third, every situation is different. Not a single one of us knows what the situation was for AD.

Lastly, no where did AD say it wasn't HIS fault. All he said was that it was traffic and he called to let them know he would be late. People need to get a clue and stop making sh!t up about how AD is some kind of cancer because of it.

Was AD late? Yes. Did AD hit traffic? Yes. Do we know how long he sat in traffic? No. Do we know what route he took? No. Hell, we don't even know if he left when he did because he was taking care of his kids and getting them ready for school or waiting on a baby sitter. If he'd left his kids alone, people would be calling CPS on him and acting like he's the world's worst father or something.

I get absolutely frigging tired of the way so many fans are friggin holier than thou when it comes to their expectations from players.

I have news for all you "people". SH!T happens that you have no control over. It's not an excuse. It's a FACT of life. If some of you get a clue and realize this, you might live better lives.. They'll definitely be happier ones.

I think the point Bruschi was making was that considering the extenuating circumstances, and the atmosphere, especially after losing 3 of 4, players have to put out more, and that meant showing up a lot earlier.

And AD was already treading on thin ice to begin with, and should probably have taken extra precautions.. show up an hour earlier, if he really was concerned about getting back in good grace.

FWIW Boston.com's Trafficalert reported no signficant delay on either 495/95/rt. 1 for that day, so it's not like AD was sitting for hours in traffic.

 

[DaBruinz]

So you don't agree with sending him home?

Speaking of happy lives

What part of "I have no problem with him sending AD home" do you have an issue with?

My issue is with all you rejects who are bashing AD left and right.

 

[DaBruinz]

I think the point Bruschi was making was that considering the extenuating circumstances, and the atmosphere, especially after losing 3 of 4, players have to put out more, and that meant showing up a lot earlier.

And AD was already treading on thin ice to begin with, and should probably have taken extra precautions.. show up an hour earlier, if he really was concerned about getting back in good grace.

FWIW Boston.com's Trafficalert reported no signficant delay on either 495/95/rt. 1 for that day, so it's not like AD was sitting for hours in traffic.

Patspsycho - You typically are a poster who is on the ball and doesn't overlook things. However, in this case, you're off. Boston.com's trafic alert does not cover LOCAL traffic unless it directly affects the highways. In other words, an accident on a surface road (vs. a highway) won't get reported on there. As I pointed out previously. And no one on here can say that AD would have taken an highway to get there to begin with.

People need to just accept the fact that he was late, was punished and move on. They need to stop fabricating stuff about what AD said and realize he didn't say anything damning other than talking to the media.

The whole kindergarten comment has most certainly been blown out of proportion..

I just find it so laughable that people have decided to make AD their scapegoat for the season.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Patspsycho - You typically are a poster who is on the ball and doesn't overlook things. However, in this case, you're off. Boston.com's trafic alert does not cover LOCAL traffic unless it directly affects the highways. In other words, an accident on a surface road (vs. a highway) won't get reported on there. As I pointed out previously. And no one on here can say that AD would have taken an highway to get there to begin with.

People need to just accept the fact that he was late, was punished and move on. They need to stop fabricating stuff about what AD said and realize he didn't say anything damning other than talking to the media.

The whole kindergarten comment has most certainly been blown out of proportion..

I just find it so laughable that people have decided to make AD their scapegoat for the season.

If this is the lengths that you have to go to to justify his lateness, then that's saying something in its own right. Bottom line, Belichick told players to be early, and he showed up late. The why of it is irrelevant; the other three guys accepted it like grownups, don't see why Thomas shouldn't be expected to.

 

[Brady'sButtBoy]

What part of "I have no problem with him sending AD home" do you have an issue with?

My issue is with all you rejects who are bashing AD left and right.

Dude,

Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, with half a pound of sense wouldn't be talking like Thomas is now. I've seen dimwits hired for $7/hr with more self respect than Thomas is displaying. I don't care about the history, the rest of story, etc.

I have no problem with Thomas being pissed at BB for sending him home, I'd be mad too. Maybe BB went overboard sending the Gang of 4 home, fine. But when you look around the room and every rookie on the team made it in on time, as did every practice squad dude, the starting QB who'd been up all night with his new baby, and you (Thomas) live close to Gillete (per DeOssie), and you'd been warned the night before of impending bad weather, then you look in the freaking mirror and say exactly Burgess said today - "Yeah, I'm disappointed I was sent home. But mostly I'm disappointed in myself for being late."

You were embarrassed by the coach and that stunk but just like any $7/hr working dude and $4mil/yr Burgess both know - bottom line, it's your own fault.

Thomas is playing it just like he's from the NBA and that's why I can't stand the league anymore and refuse to watch or root for any of them. He's talking like a fool who doesn't have the sense to... well, we've just been over that.

 

[ausbacker]

What part of "I have no problem with him sending AD home" do you have an issue with?

My issue is with all you rejects who are bashing AD left and right.

It does appear that AD has brought the scorn upon himself for not adhering to "The Patriot Way" in which this supporter base has become accustomed DaBruinz.

 

[Patspsycho]

Patspsycho - You typically are a poster who is on the ball and doesn't overlook things. However, in this case, you're off. Boston.com's trafic alert does not cover LOCAL traffic unless it directly affects the highways. In other words, an accident on a surface road (vs. a highway) won't get reported on there. As I pointed out previously. And no one on here can say that AD would have taken an highway to get there to begin with.

Right, but Rt. 1 is on trafficalert, and you must take rt. 1 to get to the stadium. There is no backroad access to the stadium. Rt. 1 also runs through North Attleboro. It's conceivable that he could really have been inconvenienced somewhere before rt. 1, but the case for that is somewhat suspect to me, because the majority of AD's travel does occur on rt. 1

Brady, on the other hand, because he lives on Beacon St. (or if he was with his wife would have been at MGH which is very close by) has to go Storrows-93 south-95 south-rt 1 south. The likelihood of him running into trouble is that much higher, yet he was on time.

I am not interested in proving anyone wrong or winning an argument here, but I am not convinced that AD is not at fault in this specific scenario.

 

[DaBruinz]

If this is the lengths that you have to go to to justify his lateness, then that's saying something in its own right. Bottom line, Belichick told players to be early, and he showed up late. The why of it is irrelevant; the other three guys accepted it like grownups, don't see why Thomas shouldn't be expected to.

What "lengths" did I go to? Point out the FACT that traffic can change from normal to dead stop with a 3 mile back-up in the matter of minutes? And that back-up could last 2-3 hours. Point out the FACT that AD accepted what Bill said and left as he was told to do? Reality is that things come up that you can't plan for. BB should know that better than anyone after the off-season between the 2004 and 2005 seasons.

You seriously make it sound like AD said "F U BB. I'll be late if I want to" (said in the voice of Cerrano talking to Jobu). Could that be the case? Sure. Is it likely? Nope.

I'm curious as to why you think that AD isn't "acting like a grown-up." I haven't seen a temper tantrum. I haven't seen him say that BB was WRONG. I haven't seen him do anything but answer the media's questions. Which they are required to do.

 

[BradyFTW!]

What "lengths" did I go to? Point out the FACT that traffic can change from normal to dead stop with a 3 mile back-up in the matter of minutes? And that back-up could last 2-3 hours. Point out the FACT that AD accepted what Bill said and left as he was told to do? Reality is that things come up that you can't plan for. BB should know that better than anyone after the off-season between the 2004 and 2005 seasons.

You seriously make it sound like AD said "F U BB. I'll be late if I want to" (said in the voice of Cerrano talking to Jobu). Could that be the case? Sure. Is it likely? Nope.

I'm curious as to why you think that AD isn't "acting like a grown-up." I haven't seen a temper tantrum. I haven't seen him say that BB was WRONG. I haven't seen him do anything but answer the media's questions. Which they are required to do.

I grew up in Maine, and I was never once late for school or work due to snow. If it's snowing, you leave earlier- it's not rocket science. And if there had been a 3 hour traffic jam on route 1 leading to Gillette, more than 4 players would have been late. Traffic isn't an excuse, no matter how hard you try to make it one.

 

[DaBruinz]

Dude,

Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, with half a pound of sense wouldn't be talking like Thomas is now. I've seen dimwits hired for $7/hr with more self respect than Thomas is displaying. I don't care about the history, the rest of story, etc.

So, now AD has no self-respect?? This just keeps getting better and better...

I have no problem with Thomas being pissed at BB for sending him home, I'd be mad too. Maybe BB went overboard sending the Gang of 4 home, fine. But when you look around the room and every rookie on the team made it in on time, as did every practice squad dude, the starting QB who'd been up all night with his new baby, and you (Thomas) live close to Gillete (per DeOssie), and you'd been warned the night before of impending bad weather, then you look in the freaking mirror and say exactly Burgess said today - "Yeah, I'm disappointed I was sent home. But mostly I'm disappointed in myself for being late."

Umm.. First I've heard about them being told about the impending weather. I've read that they were told Monday that they should expect to be putting in more time and to be early for things, but not anything about the weather. Could you provide a link?

As for how far away he lives, as Synovia pointed out, there have been times that its taken people 2-3 hours to go 5 miles in similar weather conditions.

You were embarrassed by the coach and that stunk but just like any $7/hr working dude and $4mil/yr Burgess both know - bottom line, it's your own fault.

Thomas is playing it just like he's from the NBA and that's why I can't stand the league anymore and refuse to watch or root for any of them. He's talking like a fool who doesn't have the sense to... well, we've just been over that.

Sorry, but if you leave for work early and get caught in a traffic jam that lasts for 2 hours and you are only 5 minutes late, that isn't your fault.. No matter what you people would like to think. And no, I am not saying that is what happened. I am saying its a possibility. And since none of us were in the car WITH Thomas, none of us can know for sure one way or the other.

 

[DaBruinz]

Right, but Rt. 1 is on trafficalert, and you must take rt. 1 to get to the stadium. There is no backroad access to the stadium. Rt. 1 also runs through North Attleboro. It's conceivable that he could really have been inconvenienced somewhere before rt. 1, but the case for that is somewhat suspect to me, because the majority of AD's travel does occur on rt. 1

Brady, on the other hand, because he lives on Beacon St. (or if he was with his wife would have been at MGH which is very close by) has to go Storrows-93 south-95 south-rt 1 south. The likelihood of him running into trouble is that much higher, yet he was on time.

I am not interested in proving anyone wrong or winning an argument here, but I am not convinced that AD is not at fault in this specific scenario.

Umm.. The likelihood of Brady hitting traffic on 93/95 between 4:30 and 6:00 is next to none. Sorry.

As I have stated, since no one actually knows the truth, how can everyone have their panties in a wad? People need to get over it. Sh!T happens.. Deal with it and move on.

 

[Patspsycho]

Umm.. The likelihood of Brady hitting traffic on 93/95 between 4:30 and 6:00 is next to none. Sorry.

That is why he leaves so early. Why couldn't AD have the same set of precautions?

 

[MoLewisrocks]

What "lengths" did I go to? Point out the FACT that traffic can change from normal to dead stop with a 3 mile back-up in the matter of minutes? And that back-up could last 2-3 hours. Point out the FACT that AD accepted what Bill said and left as he was told to do? Reality is that things come up that you can't plan for. BB should know that better than anyone after the off-season between the 2004 and 2005 seasons.

You seriously make it sound like AD said "F U BB. I'll be late if I want to" (said in the voice of Cerrano talking to Jobu). Could that be the case? Sure. Is it likely? Nope.

I'm curious as to why you think that AD isn't "acting like a grown-up." I haven't seen a temper tantrum. I haven't seen him say that BB was WRONG. I haven't seen him do anything but answer the media's questions. Which they are required to do.

He is not required to answer any of the media's questions. He isn't even required to make himself available to the media. His HC is and he managed to say nothing about the incident beyond any disciplinary action this team takes is handled in house. Even Burgess managed to handle it the appropriate, responsible, accountable way, and on tape he sounds like he didn't study anything other than football tape from kindergarden on... Every former Patriot who has weighed in on the situation with a perspective you cannot claim, including Tedy who as a paid media analyst has every right to voice his informed opinion, has said the same thing you are lambasing fans here for saying. AD is a bright guy, an articulate guy. He's also obviously decided he's bigger than this team and getting in a few sarcastic digs at Belichick means more to him down the stretch this season than helping the other 52 guys in that locker room find a way to win.

 

[pats1]

What "lengths" did I go to? Point out the FACT that traffic can change from normal to dead stop with a 3 mile back-up in the matter of minutes? And that back-up could last 2-3 hours. Point out the FACT that AD accepted what Bill said and left as he was told to do? Reality is that things come up that you can't plan for. BB should know that better than anyone after the off-season between the 2004 and 2005 seasons.

You seriously make it sound like AD said "F U BB. I'll be late if I want to" (said in the voice of Cerrano talking to Jobu). Could that be the case? Sure. Is it likely? Nope.

I'm curious as to why you think that AD isn't "acting like a grown-up." I haven't seen a temper tantrum. I haven't seen him say that BB was WRONG. I haven't seen him do anything but answer the media's questions. Which they are required to do.

That is not true. Guyton, Moss, and Burgess all disappeared during the media availability period in the locker room on their day back. If players don't want to talk, they find something else to do (get treatment, lift, etc.). AD's had an axe to grind with BB since October 18th. He questioned him after he was deactivated. He questioned his 4th down call in Indy. He's questioning him now.

 

[DaBruinz]

I grew up in Maine, and I was never once late for school or work due to snow. If it's snowing, you leave earlier- it's not rocket science. And if there had been a 3 hour traffic jam on route 1 leading to Gillette, more than 4 players would have been late. Traffic isn't an excuse, no matter how hard you try to make it one.

Good for you. Would you like a gold star? BTW, I find it to be BS that you were never late once while living in Maine unless you just didn't bother to go in the times you would have been late. I know plenty of people who were late because of accidents that snarled roads and that was even with leaving early.. Heck, I can remember, in high school, my bus being late because of an accident. The accident happened at our bus stop and snarled the road...

And no one said anything about a 3 hour traffic jam on Rt.1. Not to mention that it wouldn't, necessarily, have caught more than Thomas. And I already proved that out earlier.

Oh, and another personal example. On February 28th, 1994, my aunt was starting a new job down in Newton. Living in Lowell, she knew that it would take 45 minutes in the morning for her to go down Rt. 3 to 128S to get to her job. Being her first day, she gave herself an extra 45 minutes to get to work. She was late by an hour that day. As was most of the office that was coming down 128 S. The reason? There was a car accident in the fast lane about 2 miles north of the Watertown exit. I was the one in the car accident. It involved 3 cars.. The road wasn't icy and it wasn't snowing. Yet, there was that 3 car accident that turned her 45 minute commute (which she alloted 1.5 hours for) into a 3 hour commute. It happens. It's not an excuse. It's reality. Oh. and I know about the accident because I was one of the 3 cars involved in it..

So, you can make all the forward planning you want and it still can't account for everything.

BTW, I find it funny that many of the same people who are lambasting AD for not being on time are the same ones who defend BB not being able to predict injuries..

 

[BradyFTW!]

Oh, and another personal example. On February 28th, 1994, my aunt was starting a new job down in Newton. Living in Lowell, she knew that it would take 45 minutes in the morning for her to go down Rt. 3 to 128S to get to her job. Being her first day, she gave herself an extra 45 minutes to get to work. She was late by an hour that day. As was most of the office that was coming down 128 S. The reason? There was a car accident in the fast lane about 2 miles north of the Watertown exit. I was the one in the car accident. It involved 3 cars.. The road wasn't icy and it wasn't snowing. Yet, there was that 3 car accident that turned her 45 minute commute (which she alloted 1.5 hours for) into a 3 hour commute. It happens. It's not an excuse. It's reality. Oh. and I know about the accident because I was one of the 3 cars involved in it..

So, you can make all the forward planning you want and it still can't account for everything.

BTW, I find it funny that many of the same people who are lambasting AD for not being on time are the same ones who defend BB not being able to predict injuries..

If there had been a car accident on Rt. 1, a lot more than 4 guys would have been late. Do I have to actually check the traffic reports to prove how asinine your 'point' is, or can you actually handle it like an adult for a change? If there had been an accident, BTW, I'm fairly certain that Thomas would have mentioned that in the rambling explanation where he said he almost crashed, then *****ed about how Belichick didn't care if he was in a ditch (he wasn't in a ditch), etc. Why would he resort to such hypothetical would-be excuses if he actually had a legitimate one like a car accident?

But no, instead, in a virtuoso display of Glenn Beck-inspired 'logic', you'll continue to insist that there MIGHT have been an accident that mysteriously went unreported and didn't impede the progress of anyone else. That's definitely it.

 

[DaBruinz]

That is why he leaves so early. Why couldn't AD have the same set of precautions?

Brady leaves so early so he can get in a good portion of his lifting routine prior to the meetings. My guess is that its also so he can get back into Boston without a lot of traffic should the need arise for any of his endorsement meeting and such..

Brady has always been in to gillette early. It had nothing to do with taking the weather into consideration.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Brady has always been in to gillette early. It had nothing to do with taking the weather into consideration.

Maybe Adalius ought to take a page out of his book, eh?

 

[DaBruinz]

If there had been a car accident on Rt. 1, a lot more than 4 guys would have been late. Do I have to actually check the traffic reports to prove how asinine your 'point' is, or can you actually handle it like an adult for a change?

Why the hell do you insist on harpiong on a friggin hypothetical? Also, there are other roads than Rt. 1 that a person can drive in N. Attleboro. And no, not a lot of other guys would, necessarily, have been late if there had been an accident. Would you actually read what is posted isn't of spouting off without thinking?

I swear. You people need to get a clue. I gave ONE possibility. I also gave an example of how traffic can change quickly and how 1 person can be affected and one wouldn't be. What the hell is so hard for you people to grasp?

Jesus, get the hell over yourselves. You act like you've never had outside influences cause you to be late or cause a change or anything.

You're all sh!t stinks just like AD's. You are no better so what gives you the right to sh!t on him because he was late?

 

[DaBruinz]

Maybe Adalius ought to take a page out of his book, eh?

And how do you know that he doesn't? Just pure BS speculation on your part. He was late this once and now, all of a sudden, he needs to change his WHOLE friggin life because of TOOL fans like yourself who are on a holier than thou trip.