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  1. BradyManny

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    Don't know if anyone heard Zolak on EEI yesterday morning - D&C are out and they were talking football.

    He said some notable things, but the one that most struck me was in the midst of being asked about Mayo, he made a point of mentioning that he thought Crable looked really good so far - and that he felt Crable could come in and help fill the void Rosie left as a pass rusher. He mentioned Crable could've been drafted higher and said that Michigan can often play players out of positions and that you can't just judge him by the production - and that he has a really strong frame.

    It was nice to hear someone trustworthy and knowledgeable about football speak about Crable with high expectations for the upcoming season...
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    No one has ever questioned Crables upper body frame and stregth. What he needs to work on is his lower body because he is still a bit thin through his legs. He has the possibility to be a great pass rusher but he needs to bulk up a bit in some areas before being completely relied upon in the game ala Colvin. Mayo OTOH is already at that stage where he could jump in and play if needed to.
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    There's no reason he shouldn't be able to, I realize he wasn't a #1 pick like these guys but Meriman, Ware, Wimbley all had electric rookie seasons as 3-4 D pass rushers. No way am I saying Crable could be a starting OLB but as a pass rusher on 3rd down he will be a disappointment to me if he can't be solid as a rookie.
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    I believe the "if" has been taken care of already. He is needed to step in right now and play most of the time IMO. Let Bruschi, Hobson and maybe Seau fight it out for minutes.
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    has zolak ever coached defense??? his opinion is about as worthless as any other ex jock whos been out of football for years, soory to bust your bubble but he is nothing but a meaningless piece of the media, did he have any stock tips to???
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    Is this sarcasm? Or just one of the stupidest things I've read recently? Do you think offensive players don't know anything about defense? Give me a break. Especially QBs. Tom Brady knows more about most team's defenses than the defensive players on their team do.
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    with the way zolak performed in his career id take nothing from his comments
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    oh i forgot maybe if he talked about carrying a clip board that might have some revelance
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    You're ruining the thread with your nonsense, buddy.
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    :confused: I'm sorry, have you played professional football?!?
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    The Patriots are overdue for a (pleasant) rookie surprise. It would be great if both Mayo and Crable had a big impact this year.
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    Exactly - patsgo's dismissal of Zolak's comments are not only completely asinine but not relevant - the point of the discussion was to talk about Crable...not Zolak...
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    first im not your buddy, i have a right to question what Zolak really knows, and if his opinion is creditable, if you have a problem , just go away, you seem to have a problem mr. belichick fan of anybody who disagrees eith you, i suggest some anger management courses for yourself
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    I agree in reference to Crable - I expect Mayo as the 10th pick to contribute, but I think either Wheatley and or Crable will exceed expectations and be a contributor factor sooner than later.

    With those three players, Mayo, Crable and Wheatley, the Pats targeted smart players with good work ethics, who can be put into situational roles, making them more likely to pay dividends in the immediate future.
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    I agree with all of the above - Crable definitely has skinny legs. But we'd only be asking him to pass rush situationally at this point, so he has time to build his lower body up.
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    Crable should contribute this is true.
    I wanna know why people are sleeping on Woods still.
    BB publicly praised the guy like he was talking about a special player not a guy on the bubble to make the 53.
    BB knows that Woods is ready to take over the outside spot that Colvin held down with authority through his tenure.
    At worst Woods will be a a beast on third down always pressuring th qb.
    When he drafted Crable he said he reminds me of Woods.
    That right there should let people know this Linebacker corps is gonna be more productive than people think.
    Crable is a beast in the making he needs a year or two of seasoning I love the fact he came from Michigan I'm sure he will click up perfectly with Vrabel he already is friends with Woods.
    BB is quickly gonna build chemistry between the mix of vets and the young guys.
    As far as Mayo that man is a Seasoned vet inside the body of rookie incredible find, and trading down for him that is a move that needs to be given more attention.
    As far as who's on the bubble i'm saying eric alexander he's nothing special.
    As far as Redd and Guyton i'm still on record they both make the team maybe guyton on the practice squad but Redd will surprise people.
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    thats the problem with the majority of prople on this forum, they belive and read everything the media says, and posts almost everything the media says, my point was most dont know anything so dont take it as gospel what they say, especially zolak, who has no inside knowledge of a belichick run defense, i guess i just should belive everything, would that make you guys happy/
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    First off even the most expert opinion doesn't mean much with only minicamps to look at, but other than that I am not sure what your problem is with Zolak making a judgement on someones ability. That is what he is getting paid to do. I think we can all be happy to hear some good opinions about one of rooks without believing that this means he is the next coming of LT.
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    Jason Taylor is a bit thin. Now I'm not comparing him to JT, but if Crable can give half of what JT gives that will be great.

    The team needs speed rushers and needs depth at that position too. Even if he's a one trick pony at first I'm fine with that.
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    I think they had little confidence in Woods. I'll still say AD was huffing a puffing on that last drive in the SB. It makes me wonder why Woods wasn't in there. They should have had Vrabel, AD, and Woods in at the same time and maybe they would have actually gotten Eli. A fresh Woods could have meant a second quicker explosion.
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    People are sleeping on Woods because he really did not make any contribution to the regular defesne last year after Colvin went down. We were playing 4 older LBs some of whom (Vrabel especially) were wearing down through the latter part of the year yet they did not go to Woods.

    As for BB praising him - it is meaningless. Ignore what he says, watch who he puts on the field. He praises EVERY player publicly. It is his MO with the media. He even praised Duane Starks publicly. He praised Rohan Davey like he was Joe Montana a couple hours AFTER he cut him.
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    Brady didn't have the greatest Frame either, must be something in the water up there at Michigan
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    I'd love for that to happen - we'll see, it'll be another interesting storyline to watch this upcoming season. This is a make or break season for Woods in a way - will he just be an STer? Or can he start to contribute on passing downs as a pass rusher? I think we'll find out as this season goes on.
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    Most of the best coaches were not the best football players. Or they weren't football players at all. Just ask BB.
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    Took the words out of my mouth. I forget about Woods because he hasn't been trusted to play at any level for the defense. That says something, regardless of what Belichick is telling the media. We're talking about 1st and 3rd round draft picks coming in during rookie campaign's and being contributors, but Woods is still sleeping? IMO, he's not going to ever see any playing time. And if it's a consideration down the line with retiring, etc., guys like Guyton or Redd or otherwise could be waiting in the wings.
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    I have seen pictures of Crable just like everyone else and I understand he has skinny legs. But, with that said I do not see any numbers that support the idea that he has poor lower body strength. I am willing to admit that there are others here that know more about him then I do (and others that know more about football then I do).

    Can someone show me some example that shows he has poor lower body strength. Some game he constantly got over powered or poor results at the combine?

    Until then I would have to agree that he does not have the ideal looking body but not that he lacks strength.
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    I never thought that highly of Zo's opinions - for example he was still saying Bledsoe was a better QB than Brady for years after Drew was traded. Still, he's more likely to be right than wrong.
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    Where is this "praise" of Woods I keep hearing about? I've yet to hear or read anything from BB that praises Woods. All I know is he compared Crable to Woods in a post-draft press conference; that's about I'll I've publicly read.

    If someone could supply links I'd appreciate it.

    But people are "sleeping" on Woods because he hasn't even shown a flash of any sort of starter potential in two years. There is no reason for optimism; only slight pessimism.
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    What's most interesting about BBs comments regarding Woods is precisely that they weren't made publicly. He told Crable pre-draft that if taken he would be expected to learn by following Woods. IMO that's more meaningful than podium talk.

    Of course it could be that BB simply values him highly as a STer and someone to learn professionalism from.
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