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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Not to be too pedantic, but I think the actual motive is that a cold football is harder to grip.... which is ultimately a meaningless distinction since that is the exact same reason why Tom would have deflated a ball. Grip is the same reason why the Chargers manipulated the balls as well.
Only Roger Goodell could take actions that have identical motives and effects and conclude that two are harmless and one is worth the harshest penalty in league history.
With the idiot Volin jumping on this issue, I had to address this.
Goodell's statement:
"The conduct at issue here is also very different from the ball-warming incident in Minnesota last year, in which a Carolina Panthers ball attendant was observed warming a ball on the Vikings' sideline; there was no evidence of any intentional attempt to violate or circumvent the rules, no player involvement, and no effort to conceal the ball attendant's conduct. As (NFL executive VP of football operations) Mr. (Troy) Vincent testified, the ball never got into the game and the matter "was addressed immediately."
In Goodell's bizarro world, video evidence = no evidence and a text message with the world deflator = direct, hard evidence. What other reason would the attendant be heating the ball than the circumvent the rule?
How did the NFL know that there was no player or staff involvement? Was there an 'independent' investigation into the Panthers' organization? If not, why?
How long it will take to heat a ball by 20 degree? 1 minute? By this time pressure in a ball will change by (approximately) 1 PSI. Not .3, but 1! So, infraction is worse that Patriots blamed for. Does this NFL employee get instructed to do this? By whom? I'd like to see 20+ page report...
Excellent post!With the idiot Volin jumping on this issue, I had to address this.
Goodell's statement:
"The conduct at issue here is also very different from the ball-warming incident in Minnesota last year, in which a Carolina Panthers ball attendant was observed warming a ball on the Vikings' sideline; there was no evidence of any intentional attempt to violate or circumvent the rules, no player involvement, and no effort to conceal the ball attendant's conduct. As (NFL executive VP of football operations) Mr. (Troy) Vincent testified, the ball never got into the game and the matter "was addressed immediately."
In Goodell's bizarro world, video evidence = no evidence and a text message with the world deflator = direct, hard evidence. What other reason would the attendant be heating the ball than the circumvent the rule?
How did the NFL know that there was no player or staff involvement? Was there an 'independent' investigation into the Panthers' organization? If not, why?
Also, I guess somehow no player was "generally aware" that a ball attendant standing right next to multiple players was shoving game balls under the heaters!!!Wait, so they accidentally stuck the balls under the heater?
eh, u cant argue with devil.With the idiot Volin jumping on this issue, I had to address this.
Goodell's statement:
"The conduct at issue here is also very different from the ball-warming incident in Minnesota last year, in which a Carolina Panthers ball attendant was observed warming a ball on the Vikings' sideline; there was no evidence of any intentional attempt to violate or circumvent the rules, no player involvement, and no effort to conceal the ball attendant's conduct. As (NFL executive VP of football operations) Mr. (Troy) Vincent testified, the ball never got into the game and the matter "was addressed immediately."
In Goodell's bizarro world, video evidence = no evidence and a text message with the world deflator = direct, hard evidence. What other reason would the attendant be heating the ball than the circumvent the rule?
How did the NFL know that there was no player or staff involvement? Was there an 'independent' investigation into the Panthers' organization? If not, why?
Apart from the bald-faced lies
What about the "Chargers sticky towels". (sounds like a porn film title) http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...diego-chargers-fined-20k-by-nfl-in-towel-case
"NFL game officials are charged with protecting the integrity and competitive fairness of the games and club staff members, like players and coaches, have a clear obligation to cooperate in this effort and comply with the direction of game officials. As a result of the failure of club staff to follow the directive of a game official to immediately surrender the towels when directed to do so, and to attempt to conceal the towels, the Chargers have been fined $20,000."
This is so outrageous. Goodell makes me sick. It has gone far beyond fans having reason to dislike their sport's commissioner. He's on constant public display as an habitually lying pompous piece of crap who believes he can get away with anything just because it's him saying it.
I stated another thread that the last line looks like evidence of a sting. If when the balls disappeared and they decided to use the back up balls or retest the balls, then the case against the Pats would be less because they didn't use them in the game and the issue was addressed immediately. Now that they didn't, it is the reasoning for the harsh punishment.
Defamegate is only an important issue for 3 reasons:
optionally, he still thinks it's a player violation and not a team violation.
- Patriots (any other team would have been warned)
- Popularity with NFL fans at an all time low and he needed to pump up his approval ratings
- Because he can do whatever he wants, it's in the legally binding CBA
I sometimes think about that as a missed opportunity to really lay into him. But the climate was much different back then. Still, I challenged him on the 18-game regular season schedule he was pushing and he responded with typical evasion/doublespeak. Instead of directly addressing the reservations I expressed about 18 regular-season games, he emphasized that fans are tired of four preseason games and in general "want more football."Ha Ha, I recall that event a couple years ago, where you and some Pats fans saw Goodell speak at a "Gillette?" function for Season tix holders only. There was a question and answer session with the Fuhrer himself. Lucky you.
How'd you like to run down that road again today!
I sometimes think about that as a missed opportunity to really lay into him. But the climate was much different back then. Still, I challenged him on the 18-game regular season schedule he was pushing and he responded with typical evasion/doublespeak. Instead of directly addressing the reservations I expressed about 18 regular-season games, he emphasized that fans are tired of four preseason games and in general "want more football."
I'm sure he knows better than to organize a similar event in Foxboro now. He wouldn't do well.