Wow...Boston has the worst fans ever

[Jodi]

Did I quote you?

No, but you didn't quote anyone and I was the last post before yours........

 

[ClevTrev]

Re: Wow..... Boston has the worst fans ever.

Not Sacramento! What an idiot. I meant Oakland, in particular the Golden State Warriors fans.

Don't apologize, Patjew. The Sacramento NFL fans are great, yet their team has never lost a game . . . .

 

[ClevTrev]

I am a die hard Pats fan but come on .... anyone who thinks that they will win every game has a screw loose.

Today didn't go great ..... oh well... Sh!t happens. I don't win every time I go to the casino either.

Anyone who blames an individual player for this loss is not too bright. The whole "Brady sux" "Belichick has lost his mojo" nonsense is ridiculous.

We are 2 seasons removed from the greatest team ever put together. Lots of players left via FA or Retirement. All teams rebuild and evolve.

Losing your 2nd best receiver a week before the playoffs doesn't help either.

Brady played with 3 BROKEN RIBS and possibly a BROKEN FINGER ON HIS THROWING HAND! Randy Moss played with a bad back and possibly bad knees.... but alas not good enough for the Boston fans.

The fact that we made the playoffs is great considering all of this.



So Boston fans ... get over yourself .... bunch of babies



and to the New England Patriots.... maybe next year.

Lighten up, Francis . . . . I agree with your sentiments, but disagree with the overall thread's assessment of "Boston fans."

I hesitated to reply to this obvious generalization, but my lack of discipline got the best of me. Just be aware that there are some of us who have followed this team since its inception and have no intention of ever doing anything else as long as we are breathing. Whether we boo or not or whether we're from Boston or Hyde Park or Natick or Plymouth(NH) or Ogunquit or Woonsocket or Brattleboro or New Haven or Herndon or Sarasota or Hong Kong matters little.

However, there are those who started following the team in 2001 or later and don't understand history and have little perspective of how hard it is to win the Super Bowl let alone consistently qualify for the post-season tournament. Those of you who have that historical perspective understand that we as Patriot fans have been through something special over the past 10 years and appreciate the accomplishment. I'm inclined to think that those fans with perspective represent the majority, but no need to whine. There is always tomorrow and there's nothing this team and organization have done recently to make us think it can't be done again.

 

[Leave No Doubt]

When was the pats standard to make the playoffs. It is a disappointment the way they played yesterday. I am not mad they loss i am mad the way they played. Big difference we lose and go 100% then thats fine. You think Faulk aint pissed?

This.
And Faulk WAS pissed. He was on the sidelines tearing into them as well he should have. Kevin understands what "play to win" truly means during the playoffs especially.
And I couldn't agree more with your first statement; since when has making the playoffs become the standard? You play like you're going all the way not like you're just happy to be there. Tedy made a great point when he said one of the biggest issues facing this team is the loss of so much veteran leadership in what seems like a relatively short time.

 

[Seymour93]

Re: Wow..... Boston has the worst fans ever.

infortunately you are right
and i agree with Patjew too (Pit, Cle, Gb but also Kc and many more...)

Cleveland and Kansas City have played in front of half empty stadiums these past few years and Gillette ticket prices are probably doubled the cost of the average Arrowhead and Browns Stadium tickets. If you go on a Steelers forum you will see some of the same threads you see on here, about how Steelers fans have become spoiled. I'll give you Green Bay but they are an exception to the rule due to their unusual circumstances, and let's not forget that in the 1980s the Packers couldn't sell out to save their lives and were on the verge of a move to Milwaukee.

I've seen on here someone say that yesterday's game didn't sell out. That's wrong. Every single game has been sold out since Kraft bought the team. It's just that a few people (most likely ST holders who couldn't find anybody to sell to) didn't show up even though they had tickets.

There's two reasons for the deterioration of the home field advantage. Number one is what 2000army said. Boston sports fans became spoiled after the successes of the early and mid decade, thus they now have unrealistically high expectations of their teams. The second part is Kraft pricing out many of the diehards with the new stadium by focusing more on aesthetics and pleasing higher income fans.

Despite all of this, the Patriots are still one of the top five most popular franchises and have a relatively young fanbase to boot. Why do the Steelers and Cowboys have some many fans today? Because they were successful decades ago and the kids who grew up rooting for them are now adults who brainwashed their kids to root for them and so on. As baseball continues to wither away, eventually the Patriots wil match their national prestige by becoming the deserved number one team in the last baseball stronghold in the nation.

 

[mgteich]

Re: Wow..... Boston has the worst fans ever.

When we were as bad as Cleveland and KC, we didn't fill the stands either. The stands have been filled since Kraft came, not before.

Cleveland and Kansas City have played in front of half empty stadiums these past few years and Gillette ticket prices are probably doubled the cost of the average Arrowhead and Browns Stadium tickets. If you go on a Steelers forum you will see some of the same threads you see on here, about how Steelers fans have become spoiled. I'll give you Green Bay but they are an exception to the rule due to their unusual circumstances, and let's not forget that in the 1980s the Packers couldn't sell out to save their lives and were on the verge of a move to Milwaukee.

I've seen on here someone say that yesterday's game didn't sell out. That's wrong. Every single game has been sold out since Kraft bought the team. It's just that a few people (most likely ST holders who couldn't find anybody to sell to) didn't show up even though they had tickets.

There's two reasons for the deterioration of the home field advantage. Number one is what 2000army said. Boston sports fans became spoiled after the successes of the early and mid decade, thus they now have unrealistically high expectations of their teams. The second part is Kraft pricing out many of the diehards with the new stadium by focusing more on aesthetics and pleasing higher income fans.

Despite all of this, the Patriots are still one of the top five most popular franchises and have a relatively young fanbase to boot. Why do the Steelers and Cowboys have some many fans today? Because they were successful decades ago and the kids who grew up rooting for them are now adults who brainwashed their kids to root for them and so on. As baseball continues to wither away, eventually the Patriots wil match their national prestige by becoming the deserved number one team in the last baseball stronghold in the nation.

 

[PaulNEPats]

thank god we have yet another thread bashing the fanbase. Can't have too many of those on this site

 

[Patjew]

thank god we have yet another thread bashing the fanbase. Can't have too many of those on this site

It provides a good balance to the Belichick, Brady and Moss bashing.

 

[Leave No Doubt]

Once the Red Sox won the WS in 2004.. Boston team fans have gone from great fans to babies if their team does not win a championship.

It's no secret Boston's not an easy place to play, it's always been a sports town and the fans typically are pretty involved. Boston's got it's share of dynasties and champions as well, teams like the old Celtics and the old Bruins so yes, we have a pretty high bar in general. And the Patriots have created the same bar for themselves and for their fans. From those who are great, great things are expected. That said I'm with BB; yesterday really wasn't a shock, given what we've seen all year. Everything bad was exposed, every hole we had was exploited. At least we rallied, I had hopes for awhile that we'd pull it off but even if we had I'm not sure how far we would've gotten, so who knows. This year's road to the SB would've been a gut-wrenching one that's for sure.

I don't think all fans are convinced that the team, or at least enough of them, gave 100%. You can't win it all every year,everyone here knows that, but the expectation is that you give 100% trying. Boston fans fall in love with the players who lay it all down when it counts, even if it doesn't always work out.

 

[Deus Irae]

Boston fans are great for the Red Sox, Bruins and Celtics. They understand the games, they understand success and what it takes, and they demand it of their teams (although Bruins fans allowed Jacobs to screw them for a long time before finally revolting at the ticket booth). That's not really the case with the Patriots, as there is a much larger portion of the Patriots fan base that is comprised of people that cry when anything about the team is portrayed in less than a 100% positive manner.

If someone notices that player "A" has seen his average dip from .310 to .275 under a new coach, for example, Red Sox fans can look at the data and try to come up with reasonable arguments about how the player is being used, whether he needs his role in the lineup changed, etc....


Brady coughs up 3 picks and a fumble against the Ravens and suddenly it's "Brady sucks", "the coaches suck", "Belichick is awesome and it's not his fault", "the line sucks", "You don't now what the hell you're talking about, because It's all on O'Brien even though Belichick has to O.K. every single call", etc... There's very little discussion about how the fumble could have been avoided if Brady had just stepped up in the pocket, or how the Ravens were able to take the Patriots completely out of their game just by focusing on Moss, because Edelman isn't Welker and the team never really tried mixing it up with ideas like having Faulk plus Maroney in the backfield at the same time so that Faulk, Maroney, or both could split wide and create major matchup issues for the Ravens.

 

[Leave No Doubt]

BB's got some interesting thoughts about the role of critiquing, there's a thread here on it.

 

[holyredeemer]

Re: Wow..... Boston has the worst fans ever.

Supporters of the Patriots have the right to say whatever they want after such an insipid performance. The fact is, Belichick has led the Patriots into their current predicament and is charged with leading this team out of it.

The man who led them to their current predicament is also the man that led them not only to superbowl victories but lifted our beloved franchise out of the ******* toilet bowl. BB has brought a winning tradition, and face to this organization. Something no other coach for this team has ever been able to do. BB brought respect in the eyes of football observers everywhere.

Everyone that is so quick to piss on this man needs to get off their high horse. He made mistakes, and they were problems that we knew all yr. were there. Why are so many of you so surprised and shocked? You can bet your sweet ass that these same problems won't be here next yr. Ya know why?Because we have The Hoodie, and if there is one thing he has proven, its that he can correct problems and get rid of those that dont perform up to par.

I honestly think that so many of the ppl out there thought BB was invincible and would never have a poor yr. Get over yourselves. The loss sucked, now move on, and lets see what the offseason holds for us.

 

[spacecrime]

Re: Wow..... Boston has the worst fans ever.

Supporters of the Patriots have the right to say whatever they want after such an insipid performance..

People can say whatever they want, but you cannot call them supporters when they are booing in the first quarter.

Tell me how that supports their team?

It does not.

Pats fans are spoiled. All fans of all teams want their teams to win every game, and go into each game expecting a win. But a team's fans and supporters do not detract, beat down, belittle and complain about a team when it does NOT win a game. They accept that their team was beaten by another team that played better that day.

Disappointed? We all were. But booing a team trying to come back is stupid and self-defeating in every sense of the word, and definitely does not support that team.

And yet these two-faced 'fans' would have cheered and called the Pats 'their' team had the Pats pull it out. No shame, no pride, just spoiled little adolescents on the maturity scale.

People have the right to do what they want, as you said. But just because you have the right does not make it right. Doing some things as opposed to others shows who you are, and there is nothing wrong with having that pointed out. In this case, booing says something about you. People have the right to be spoiled and petty, and many exercised that right, at the game and on this board.

 

[spacecrime]

Re: Wow..... Boston has the worst fans ever.

I have booed Jim Plunkett....I have booed Steve Grogan.....I have booed Tony Eason.....bledsoe got his share of boos and now brady

I don't think this is unusual among New Englanders. I think it is pretty typical, in fact.

 

[Joker]

Ted Williams got booed...jeez...this is getting ridiculous

 

[Pats726]

Ted Williams got booed...jeez...this is getting ridiculous

Ted WIlliams may not have been Ted Williams in any era past the 50s or so given how celebrity in sports rose and how it was all about personality instead of the game...He makes some of the bad boys now..seem like little kids.

 

[Joker]

the thing is..Williams got booed when he went 0-4 even though he was hitting over .400

fans boo.,..to sit there and pontificate like some bubble boy who has never been outside the white hospital room is idiotic

you buy a product and it's defective, do you give it a 10 on the company's customer satisfaction survey? if you do you're an idiot...sorry

there were scores of fans around us yesterday that began booing early and that is because to the naked eye watching the whole game unfold it was apparent that the Ravens were beating us to the punch. I can't slam fans for voicing their disatisfaction...what are they supposed to do, sit there and goo gee gaa gaa that all is well and what they're watching isn't really happening? It's pretty easy to sit in a nice comfy easy chair in your warm and snug den watching your 42 inch plasma and slam the fans who have actually put up hard earned cash,traveled long distances and endured sub freezing temperatures for 3 and a half hours just because they are venting their frustration.

I didn't boo the team yesterday...neither did the three lifelong friends and Patriots fans I went to the game with...but the fans who did boo didn't bother us one bit...just because that's not our style doesn't mean I'm going to castigate THEM for theirs. And for the record, there was plenty of standing and cheering well into the 4th quarter, at least in the sections surrounding ours(112) right up until Ghost missed the FG...at which point we made our way out....I'm terribly sorry if this is so offensive to Joe Donuteater that he has to castigate Patriots fans in attendance from the comfort of his La-Z-boy.,

 

[TriplecHamp]

Re: Wow..... Boston has the worst fans ever.

BS....I was embarrassed in 07 by how quiet it was in the Razor.

YouTube - Patriots Entrance

Its the loudest Ive ever heard the Razor.

 

[TriplecHamp]

Re: Wow..... Boston has the worst fans ever.

Seattle, Cleveland, Portland, Green Bay, Sacramento... all better than Boston and NY IMO.

In terms of football, maybe but not sports in general.

 

[Joker]

and that's another thing that is so wrong with the constant complaints about our fans...there is a HUGE DEAD ZONE in the Razor...the red seat area...YESTERDAY IT WAS VIRTUALLY EMPTY...the rest of the stands remained filled even though the temp began dropping in the 2nd half...the Razor doesn't hold noise very well anyway,NOTHING like the old Sully, but this dead area has a profound effect on the perceived noise level when you watch a game on TV. In person, yesterday was as loud at times as I've heard the Razor since it came online. I did not hear one person say one thing about noise levels as we left the stadium and went back to tailgate...nobody EVER brought anything like that up when we all (by the hundreds) lit the BBQ and discussed the post game impressions we had...but then you log on here and there's the Army Of Outraged Cheer Police throwing the fans in attendance under the tank wheels...ridiculous