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drew4008 said:Great list drpatriot. Except I might put "CUT STARKS" #1... he was abysmal.
:agree: definalty Starks was :enranged: :enranged:
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bum has "some land", about 8 sections, in east texas. he's getting on in years, about 70 now, he and his wife seem to be doing fine. he's active, into prize livestock, and looks happy. SI did an article on him, i believe, about 2 years ago.Mike the Brit said:Was that Bum Phillips? I love those Texas one-liners.
drpatriot said:Within reason, of course.
My ideal offseason would involve the following:
#1: Resigning Givens. Givens has played extremely well with the Patriots and is our main priority as a signing. If we approach him immediately with a great offer, as many on this board have suggested, he will not refuse it.
#2: Signing Will Allen. Allen is a good cornerback who will improve with the Patriots. Although Gay, Hobbs and Samuel are all good, we need a presence with more experience and talent.
#3: Signing Antwan Peek. Peek is a RFA with the Texans who played as a 3-4 OLB. The Texans are switching to a 4-3 under Kubiak and Peek has lost a lot of value to the Texans. If he is given any tender, it would likely be the minimum tender, which would require a third-round pick, which we have two of. Peek is a good player who will eliminate the need for a McGinest heir apparant and, in my opinion, is worth a 3rd round pick if he receives the minimum tender. I see Peek gradually becoming more involved in the defense as the year goes on.
#4: Restructuring McGinest's contract. I would love to see McGinest finish his career in New England, but his current cap hit is too high to keep him around. If he will not restructure, we will have to release him.
#5: Resigning Davis, Dwight, Neal and Vinateri. These four players will come reasonably cheap and are important parts of our team.
#6: Drafting a safety or an OL in the first round. Ko Simpson, Winston Justice or Darnell Bing would be a good pick here. We need to improve our OL and find a future replacement for Rodney. The position left over should be drafted in the second or third round.
#7: Cutting Duane Starks, Tyrone Poole, Dan Klecko and Bethel Johnson. These players have little or no value for their roster spot and cap space and should be released.
#8: Find an eventual replacement for Dillon. If Lendale White fell to us in the 1st round, we'd have to take him. Other options in the draft are Joseph Addai, Mike Bell and Dontrell Moore. Najeh Davenport is an option in free agency. More expertise here would be helpful.
#9: Resign Heath Evans, Artrell Hawkins, Troy Brown and Chad Scott. These players are low-priority, but I still would like to see them make the cut to next year.
#10: Find a KR/PR. Drafting a player like Skyler Green or Devin Hester in the later rounds is definitely an option. Willie Ponder and Eddie Drummond are both FA options.
drew4008 said:Great list drpatriot. Except I might put "CUT STARKS" #1... he was abysmal.
patpatriot said:Release\Don't resign the following players:
Willie Mac (this one hurts but he's old and expensive)
Ashworth (unless he comes cheap)
Neal (ditto)
Starks (nuff said)
Poole (ditto)
T Brown (all good things...)
C Brown (too old and expensive)
Chatham (welcome to Cleveland!)
Poteat (welcome back to the shadow squad)
Givens (this one hurts)
Izzo (times up Larry)
Klecko (can't find a position)
G Scott (can't stay healthy)
Sign the following "cheap" free agents:
o Derek Smith - ILB (joins Bru inside - Vrabel to Willie's spot )
o Jonathan Wells - Big backup RB\ST (upgrade over "i bin shot!" Pass)
o Jerry Azumah - CB/KR (former starter-lost job to all pro)
o Brian Finneran - WR (big (6'5) - let's see what he can do with a real QB)
o Jon Runyon - Vet RT (move Kazur to guard-watch Cory smile)
Draft the following rookies:
o Manny Lawson\M Kiwanuka\R Carpenter (new Willie Mac)
o Richard Marshall\A Cromartie\J Allen (CB potential starters)
o A Whitworth\D Colledge\C Spencer (OL depth)
o DonTrell Moore\M Bell\Maurice Drew (Faulk insurance\replacement + KR)
I'd use all my second day picks to position myself to get the best combination of these players.
Add these players to the 05 injured (Light, Harrison, Gay, Koppen, Claridge)
Resign Dwight, Hawkins, C Scott, and possibly Evans and A Davis
combine these players, mix in a weaker schedule and a more experienced staff and 04 rookie class. Superbowl victory just about guaranteed!
drpatriot said:Within reason, of course.
My ideal offseason would involve the following:
#1: Resigning Givens. Givens has played extremely well with the Patriots and is our main priority as a signing. If we approach him immediately with a great offer, as many on this board have suggested, he will not refuse it.
#2: Signing Will Allen. Allen is a good cornerback who will improve with the Patriots. Although Gay, Hobbs and Samuel are all good, we need a presence with more experience and talent.
#3: Signing Antwan Peek. Peek is a RFA with the Texans who played as a 3-4 OLB. The Texans are switching to a 4-3 under Kubiak and Peek has lost a lot of value to the Texans. If he is given any tender, it would likely be the minimum tender, which would require a third-round pick, which we have two of. Peek is a good player who will eliminate the need for a McGinest heir apparant and, in my opinion, is worth a 3rd round pick if he receives the minimum tender. I see Peek gradually becoming more involved in the defense as the year goes on.
#4: Restructuring McGinest's contract. I would love to see McGinest finish his career in New England, but his current cap hit is too high to keep him around. If he will not restructure, we will have to release him.
#5: Resigning Davis, Dwight, Neal and Vinateri. These four players will come reasonably cheap and are important parts of our team.
#6: Drafting a safety or an OL in the first round. Ko Simpson, Winston Justice or Darnell Bing would be a good pick here. We need to improve our OL and find a future replacement for Rodney. The position left over should be drafted in the second or third round.
#7: Cutting Duane Starks, Tyrone Poole, Dan Klecko and Bethel Johnson. These players have little or no value for their roster spot and cap space and should be released.
#8: Find an eventual replacement for Dillon. If Lendale White fell to us in the 1st round, we'd have to take him. Other options in the draft are Joseph Addai, Mike Bell and Dontrell Moore. Najeh Davenport is an option in free agency. More expertise here would be helpful.
#9: Resign Heath Evans, Artrell Hawkins, Troy Brown and Chad Scott. These players are low-priority, but I still would like to see them make the cut to next year.
#10: Find a KR/PR. Drafting a player like Skyler Green or Devin Hester in the later rounds is definitely an option. Willie Ponder and Eddie Drummond are both FA options.
DaBruinz said:Drew -
Its pretty funny that you and others keep beating this drum even though guys like Pats1 and Box or Rocks (the guys who do the breakdowns) actually have come out and said that Starks didn't play that bad. The times he got beat he was playing underneath and had no help over the top because the safeties covered the wrong areas. Also, Its noted that Starks was playing with a severely mangled shoulder. Something that is fixed now.