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    #24 Jersey

    If true that pisses me off, there is NO reason to pay more than the RFA #2. None whatsoever.
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    That's BS. Even a second round it's too much.
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    This is a done deal? Or just King speculating?
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    Unless we get him at the price of the tender? Or less than what the offer sheet was?

    Not sure of the ins and outs of that, but that is the only thing that would make sense.
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    Well there really aren't many roster spots open on this team, so it seems pretty unlikley that a 7th rounder could do much for us...but why would the Pats make that trade? That must be one bitter poison pill they tried to throw in that offer...
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    I'm fine with it.

    You know why? Because Belioli wants to win even more than we want them to win. If they think he's worth a #2 and a #7, that's good enough for me.

    To be honest, I agree with them: that kid's young, exciting, and fearless. We will love him.
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    Right, the only way it makes sense to give up more than a #2 would be if we offered him a dirt cheap contract that Miami could easily match. Any kind of big money ($2M or more) deal in which we give us more than a #2 is flat out stupid. Not that a #7 would kill us but it would still be stupid.
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    If they swap their 1st round position with us, makes sense.
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    The only logic that I see here is that teams are very reluctant to open the hornet's nest of the poison pill.

    If the Patriots give up a 7th round pick in addition to the 2nd rounder and avoid a quid pro quo where another team uses the poison pill against them it's worth it.

    I've had the feeling that there's a bit of a gentleman's agreement among the GMs and that once teams start breaking it, the floodgates will open.
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    Could always flip it for a #6 next year more than likely.
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    My guess is the Pats organization (read Bob Kraft) wants nothing to do with being involved in a poison pill deal. So if they want Welker badly enough they'll have to pony up more than the 2nd that the Dolphins pinned as Welker's value to them.
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    For God's sake, why do so many people think a second rounder is a slam dunk? Welker is an already-established talent and he's only going to get better in New England.

    Also, we have two #1's...that should take some of the sting out of it.
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    This makes the most sense to me.
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    :ditto:

    If anything, Miami should be giving us THEIR 7th rounder. That deal is highway robbery. Sorry, Welker is a nice player but he's not worth to go Dan Synder over.
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    It's a good deal because the Pats will now get him for the tendered deal. What was that? 1.3 mill? Great deal for a guy that may emerge as a key WR in the future.
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    Too bad for Welker, so close to the big payday.
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    Well you know what they say about Nice Guys.

    :mad:
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    We might get the 7th back if Banta-Cain ever signs with someone...

    I would hope this has to mean the Pats have a deal worked out with Welker he's ready to sign, not that we are just trading for his rights.
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    Here's the breakdown...from Peter King and it is a done deal.

    There is no way the Pats were gonna pay Wes 6 mill a year, no matter what was being reproted. The Pats asked the fins to sign Wes to 1.3 Mil contract, then trade him. Wes will get somehwere near 3.9 a year and in return for signing him to the 1.3 tender amount the Pats will trade their 2nd and 7th in the process.
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    I'm sure we've got a deal worked out with Welker...after all he visited Foxborro today. What were they talking about, if not the terms of a deal under the trade?
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    Well he isn't a $4M player either.

    This is a bad deal. B A D. Bad. I'll just hope we get what we can out of Welker but a #2 and $4M a year for him SUCKS.
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    I think we've shot our wad on comp picks next year already with our signees.
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    a 7 round pick is nothing the pats get their man end of story ,good job we dont have to wait a week that in itself is worth the 7TH
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    While I obviously would have preferred to give up less than a #2 consider also length of contract. How many years are we signing Welker for? We already lost one productive year of Chad Jackson, no matter how good he eventually becomes. Welker will help from the get go.
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    I was against a second for Welker, but if they were going to give up a second for Welker anyway, throwing in a seventh was a brilliant move. Now they can give him a more cap friendly contract. I applaud the trade. I would rather give up a seventh than give Welker a funky contract just to avoid the Dolphins matching.
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    Reiss just confirmed that they made the trade.

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    OK, so I guess Welker does not make out so cheap after all.

    Well they really had their heart set on him.
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    I don't see the problem with this. Hell the extra 7th is worth it just to avoid a week of waiting before we find out if the Fins match or not.
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    Done deal, from Reiss.

    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

    March 05, 2007
    Pats acquire Welker
    The Patriots acquired receiver Wes Welker from the Miami Dolphins today for undisclosed draft choices.

    Sports Illustrated's Peter King reports that the Patriots will give up second- and seventh-round picks.

    Welker, who enters his fourth NFL season, was a restricted free agent. The Dolphins had tendered him a one-year, $1.3 million offer and any team that attempted to sign him to an offer sheet would have had to surrender a second-round draft choice.

    Welker, who is coming off a career-high 67-catch season, visited with Patriots officials at Gillette Stadium today.

    Welker joins a receiving corps that includes Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney, Chad Jackson, Kelvin Kight and Bam Childress. Veteran Troy Brown could also return, although he previously said he is taking a wait and see approach to free agency.

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