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    #24 Jersey

    Listening on WEEI this morning and they bring up a good point.

    God D@mn and Jesus Christ(cursing style) are 2 very common curses.

    So why don't we ever hear Buddah, Allah or Mohammed with Damn?

    How come we don't use any religious name in vain other than the above.

    Something to think about as Christmas draws near...a good point by them.
     
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    the same reason..

    1. people dont freak out when you praise Buddah, Allah or Mohammed, and instead act respectfully as they want to be seen as "tolerant", yet when you praise Jesus Christ, its free reign on insults and accusations.

    2. Israel, a nation the size of New Jersey, is hated by the world for existing

    3. Israel, a nation the size of New Jersey, cannot be destroyed despite the world trying and trying

    because there is one true God who reigns, who sent His son to provide a means to Salvation, and who has made a covenant with His people.

    Deep down people know its the truth. And that why the reaction is so personal and emotional.
     
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    Oh, get off your persecutorial high horse. Try this as an explanation: We live in a Judeo-Christian society where the vast majority of people were brought up in Christian or Jewish households. We have no cultural reference points for Buddha, Allah or Mohammed, hence they're not part of our vernacular. I'll bet there are curse-associated vexations related to those words for God in their respective cultures.

    That's not to justify taking the lord's name in vain in any culture; I try to avoid it myself and consider it poor form for someone to swear in that way. But there is a difference between swearing and insulting someone for praising Jesus. I don't know where you get that connection, except when you try to force it on someone else who is not interested and consequently becomes belligerent.
     
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    Gee, i dont know, maybe because when someone talks of Jesus Christ you get insulted and sworn at?
    Your last sentence cracks me up. I love that term "force it on someone"
    Especially if you are referring to posts on a website. As if that is possible.
    Hey, if you are being barked at on a sidewalk as you are trying to walk by I could understand it. But yes, if I get insulted and the Lord gets mocked because I post something praising Him on a website, that is hardly forcing anything on someone and yes, i will answer it back.
    If you dish it out expect to get it back.

    Being a Christian doesnt mean you are supposed to be a doormat. That is a myth, this falsehood that Christians shouldnt get angry. Especially if its when the Lord is being mocked and insulted.

    Check the Bible, God gets angry. Jesus overturned tables. Peter sliced off someones ear.

    Its not belligerant to stand up for God. I never got angry or responded as such when someone simply chose to reject Jesus Christ.
    But insult him, insult me, throw out unkind words, and I will respond.

    "But there is a difference between swearing and insulting someone for praising Jesus"
    At least you are honest enough to admit you insult people for praising Jesus.
    You must be proud of yourself.
     
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    In regard to the misperception that someone, somewhere evidently holds, that Christians must be pacifists, I think this has been significantly softened by the history of nation-states and sacral organizations espousing Christianity. As to the message of Jesus, he does counsel that if someone strikes one cheek, you should turn the other toward him so he might strike both.

    From a Jewish point of view, there are many instances in which God takes actions that are understood to be the province of God, whereas I am expected to behave as God expects man to behave. I think the tension between Jesus' own actions, and his prescriptions to his followers, might constitute a similar dichotomy.

    Finally, in regard to "taking the Lord's name in vain," it is a prohibition against a false oath. You can hear the echo of this origin in the term "swearing." "Taking the Lord's name in vain" is basically bringing God into your fight to lend false credence to a lie (as in, "I swear to God I never touched that woman!" when in fact you have.)

    The sin seems to have been broadened to any casual use of the name of God, such as lighthearted imprecations, hence, "cursing." So "God damn you" becomes a sin, because you're taking God's wrath lightly. When Heston said "God Damn you all to Hell!" at the end of Planet of the Apes, he fought to keep the then-spicy language in, arguing that the character is literally damning the people who destroyed the planet, and literally hopes and calls on God to damn those people. Heston argued that the character is not, in fact, taking the Lord's name in vain, because he really means it.

    PFnV
     
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    Whatever happened to 'turning the other cheek'?

    NM
     
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    That teaching, like all others in the Bible, are only good when they serve the purposes of the individual preaching them. There's lots of contradictory messages in the Bible so that more and more people can claim to be "God fearing Christians" or "God loving Christians", whichever one works. I always thought religions were useful for protecting children, but as we mature and learn how things really are, we should be able to move on without them.
     
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    Yeah, because God is a HUGE fan of man-made national borders and He TOTALLY respects all such human constructs because he really has nothing the other six days of the week. Israel sure is lucky to have God on its side. Sure would hate to see some other nation take God away from other feet.

    Go home and sleep you c razy crackaz
     
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    ??? still celebrating the New Year?
     
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    good god I must have been drunker than hell because I don't even remember posting that!
     
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    Israel cannot be destroyed because they:
    A) Have the best air force in the entire world.
    B) Have the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA behind them.
    C) Are fighting fundamental muslims who, blinded by their hatred, refuse to become civilized. They think their terrorist tactics are going to work, when in fact, they are old and outdated. If they were to become civilized, and actually try to advance in the sciences, they would become as strong as Israel - but until then, no go, G*d d*mn*t. :D
     

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