Trade Wes Welker?

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  1. jimmyjames

    jimmyjames On the Game Day Roster

    I am not here to bash Welker or speculate on his ability or whether or not his playing time was purposefully decreased for any reason other than the game plan at hand.

    I think Wes is easily one of the best slot receivers in the league and would be a huge asset to any team, particularly one with a young QB looking for a reliable safe target.

    The Patriots have what is easy to see is a very explosive offense and a seemingly improved defense that IMO is one or two upgrades in the secondary away from being as close to a complete team since 2003.

    The offense has evolved to where I don't think TB needs to rely so heavily on Wes anymore. We have more true receiving threats - especially inside with the TE's and seemingly an improved running game.

    I think his value to the Pats is significantly lower than it was a year ago, but his trade value may have actually increased with so many rookie or 2nd year QB's starting. Given all the weapons an opponent has to game plan for when playing NE, I think Edleman would be an adequate replacement.

    Trading Welker for an upgrade over any one of these 4 players: Chung, Gregory, McCourty, Arrington - would be worth it. Interested to hear what the rest of you think.

    I would also assume that if Wes were traded he would be free to negotiate a new long term contract with his new team. is this right?
  2. CheeseMonkeys

    CheeseMonkeys 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    I think you're underestimating how important Welker is to the offense. Imagine if one of Hernadez/Gronk/Lloyd went down and we traded away Welker? Depth is so important, and people need to start realizing this.
  3. PatsGirl2011

    PatsGirl2011 Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Someone needs a reality check. Welker makes Gronk and Hernandez even more effective.
  4. Brady_to_Moss

    Brady_to_Moss Butler Island is here Supporter

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    No :bricks:
  5. 102 Pat

    102 Pat In the Starting Line-Up

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    I love this board. When a player doesn't have a statistically high game, he has no value to the team and should be traded. I can only imagine what will happen on here if Ridley doesn't get 100+ yards on sunday.
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  6. Danger Zone

    Danger Zone In the Starting Line-Up

    In before epic Ivan meltdown.. you're an idiot!!

    And for once I agree with him. :eek:

    ...unless his trade is integral to us getting a young, shut-down corner.. ;)
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  7. dalero

    dalero Supporter Supporter

    He's a huge part of this offense this year. Cut the crap.
  8. Synovia

    Synovia In the Starting Line-Up

    You do realize Welker is owed almost $10M this year, and teams have already set their rosters, right?
  9. Deus Irae

    Deus Irae Retired Jersey Club Supporter

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    If we're going to go wild with overreaction, we might as well go really wild with overreaction....

    After all, Tom only threw for under 236 three times last year. :eek:
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  10. Brady_to_Moss

    Brady_to_Moss Butler Island is here Supporter

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    My buddy has been saying since last year we don't need welker..he is still VERY important to this team..
  11. jimmyjames

    jimmyjames On the Game Day Roster

    I think he has a ton of value to the team. And I said at the beginning of the post that this had nothing to do with the Titans game specifically. But i think where this team is weakest is in the secondary. So if we could trade one facet of what is certain to be one of the best offenses in the league for a player that would upgrade the defense exponentially I would consider that trade.

    Furthermore knowing that Welker is playing on a one year deal and is likely to be looking at the franchise tag or free agency next season as well, why not get the maximum value for him that will help the team win this year?
  12. Taxed in Maine

    Taxed in Maine On the Game Day Roster

    Has ANYONE thought that MAYBE they wanted to keep him under 4 catches so he could break TBrowns all-time Pats reception record AT HOME. Not in Tennessee.
  13. jimmyjames

    jimmyjames On the Game Day Roster

    Here you go:
    This information was provided by Pro Football Talk. These totals are as of September 3rd, 2012.

    And he would be able to negotiate a new contract - something that he can't do with the Patriots for the remainder of the seasons

    AFC East
    Bills: $7.9 million
    Jets: $8.1 million
    Dolphins: $4.0 million
    Patriots: $10.0 million

    AFC North
    Bengals: $15.2 million
    Browns: $13.3 million
    Ravens: $5.3 million
    Steelers: $4.5 million

    AFC South
    Colts: $10.1 million
    Jaguars: $28.7 million
    Texans: $2.3 million
    Titans: $17.0 million

    AFC West:
    Broncos: $11.1 million
    Chargers: $4.1 million
    Chiefs: $26.6 million
    Raiders: $6.0 million

    NFC East
    Cowboys: $5.3 million
    Giants: $3.6 million
    Eagles: $20.2 million
    Redskins: $7.5 million

    NFC North
    Bears: $6.3 million
    Lions: $2.3 million
    Packers: $11.6 million
    Vikings: $8.9 million

    NFC South
    Buccaneers: $14.9 million
    Falcons: $3.4 million
    Panthers: $9.2 million
    Saints: $8.2 million

    NFC West
    49ers: $3.5 million
    Cardinals: $10.0 million
    Rams: $4.0 million
    Seahawks: $13.2 million
  14. brdmaverick

    brdmaverick In the Starting Line-Up

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    We were all shocked when they got rid of all three of Gaffney, Branch, and Stallworth. Now we want ot get rid of Welker too?

    I understand that this is a serious post, but if we ever did trade Welker I'm sure the situation woudl come up VERY quickly where we would be missing him.
  15. SVN

    SVN Hall of Fame Poster

    yes...brandon lyold was targeted 8 times ..THREE times more than welker...lets trade him
  16. TheGodInAGreyHoodie

    TheGodInAGreyHoodie Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    No he can't. CBA rules forbid it. If he was traded the new team would have the same rights the Pats had. The right to tag him at the end of the season and then negotiate.

    This is the biggest hurdle to trading him, the recieving team is getting a player that will be a FA at the end of the season with no way of extending beforehand.
  17. Snake Eyes

    Snake Eyes Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    If we trade Welker who will work the slot if Edelman goes down?:D
  18. ausbacker

    ausbacker Brady > Manning. Supporter

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    Ignoring thread in 3 2 1...
  19. patsfan13

    patsfan13 Hall of Fame Poster Supporter

    Not again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. IMO, Welker will have a "fair" season this year. Considering that he is used to having around 100 receptions per season as a Patriot, if he only had about 50-60, it would be classified as fair to good, but no better.

    That being said, 50-60 receptions would be a much better stat for other teams.

    With the continued improved play by Gronk and Hernandez, as well as Edelman filling in nicely, there is a very good chance that a Welker trade might just happen next season.

    Of course, much would depend on what the Pats get in return.

    That, however, is a long way off and not worth thinking about. We have a 2012 season in progress now.
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