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Gronk had a melt down. I can sympathize with WHY it happened, while at the same time I can never condone what he did. But like in all things in life there are consequences for your actions (existential theory), and here is just a partial list of what that momentary insanity has wrought.

It will cost him:

1. At least $230K in his one game paycheck, and up to $2.5MM in incentives he now might not make.

2. It is going to cost him millions more in off field money as his "lovable frat boy goof" image that he very carefully and skillfully built up over the last 7 years is being universally trashed by the sports media, and the negative criticism isn't going to end any time soon. Gronk is now a "bad guy".

3. There is now no way he's going to be the All Pro TE, even if his stats, impact, and blocking abilities are better than Ertz, Kelce, and Graham. That is another award that is media based and they are not going to give it to a guy who committed what is being viewed as a heinous act.
Which also impact one of his incentives

4. He has opened himself up to even more cheap shots from his opponents who, being whipped up by this media frenzy, will feel enabled to give him back what he "dished out"

5. When he now goes into a game the refs will be looking even MORE closely at everything he does...and a few things he does not. There will be no sympathy or breaks for Gonk in the near future, and that directly affects the chances for HIS team to win games.

So his personal consequences could be huge, but that is not what this thread is about

What it costs US

1. For the last 2 months almost all but the most ardent haters have grudgingly come around to giving the Pats the kind of respect that this team and organization deserves. Key injuries? Doesn't matter to the Pats. They can make anyone into a contributor. Deflategate was being viewed as the screw job it was by the casual fan, and even the national media repeated that message (grudgingly)

Well over the last 3 days that "era of good feeling" is GONE. All the haters are back with a vengeance and even the more moderate media, smelling blood in the water, are gladly piling on. Here is a great chance to trash the Pats and there isn't even a question of innocence like with Brady. Gronk is guilty as charged. We have it on tape and we will be playing it every chance we get. :rolleyes:

Now that is a burden that WE as ardent fans have to bear, and it was TOTALLY unnecessary. I am really pissed at Gronk and I feel the need for him to know the DEPTH of what his actions have caused BEYOND his own image and wallet. And to that end I expect a sincere apology, not only to TWhite, but to US as well. He has made every Pats fan's life just a little darker and harder to deal with. So instead of enjoying this great 8 game run to the playoffs, talking football and future prospects, we now have to deal with haters (more than usual) and mediot pukes looking to make hay off an incident like this.

Here's hoping that when he returns to the fold next Monday, that there will be the apology that I'm looking for and not only to White, his teammates, and the organization. But one to the fans who have stood behind him and this team for decades.

He doesn't have to apologize to me. I sit on my ass and watch the greates TE of all time go full tilt every week with a smile on his face. Dumbass move and lucky he didn't do more damage but apologize?
 
He doesn't have to apologize to me. I sit on my ass and watch the greates TE of all time go full tilt every week with a smile on his face. Dumbass move and lucky he didn't do more damage but apologize?
OK Ray, I get it. In fact I'm starting to get a little defensive here. I bust my ass on game day HOPING I'm going to get a 6 page thread and rarely get. And this thread was just an emotional over-reaction to what was happening 3 days AFTER the hit.

And no, I guess, Gronk doesn't owe us any "apology" because we are just fans, and HE is the kind of player that makes us WANT to watch.

But the thing is that part of the joy of being a Pats fan during this unprecedented reign of excellence is the pride we as fans feel in the success of our team. Having to fight the consequences of the cheating injustices and now this crap, takes away from that joy. I mean, Ray, have you enjoyed all the Gronk talk this week? I don't think so. Now the narrative has expanded to becoming a racial issue, with "whole 'hood out to get Gronk". We are going to have to deal with that one for at LEAST the next two weeks

BTW- There is no question that I took this over the top personally. Gronk is ultimately going to be the big loser in all this, not me. I'm just a victim once removed. ;)
 
Media (n.) - 1. current event propagation analysts hell bent on driving any story that will increase negativity and judgmental re-tweeting until it's so overblown the original issue no longer has any meaning whatsoever. 2. bull$*!t artists
 
In all seriousness Ken, just because we got to see Gronk in his moment of weakness doesn't necessarily engender a requirement for an apology. We fans are pretty flawed human beings, just like he is. The difference is our foibles are usually not broadcast and rebroadcast to millions.

Just because we are given a voyeuristic view into his life because he plays a game doesn't tie us to his actions. He's responsible for them himself.
 
OK Ray, I get it. In fact I'm starting to get a little defensive here. I bust my ass on game day HOPING I'm going to get a 6 page thread and rarely get. And this thread was just an emotional over-reaction to what was happening 3 days AFTER the hit.

And no, I guess, Gronk doesn't owe us any "apology" because we are just fans, and HE is the kind of player that makes us WANT to watch.

But the thing is that part of the joy of being a Pats fan during this unprecedented reign of excellence is the pride we as fans feel in the success of our team. Having to fight the consequences of the cheating injustices and now this crap, takes away from that joy. I mean, Ray, have you enjoyed all the Gronk talk this week? I don't think so. Now the narrative has expanded to becoming a racial issue, with "whole 'hood out to get Gronk". We are going to have to deal with that one for at LEAST the next two weeks

BTW- There is no question that I took this over the top personally. Gronk is ultimately going to be the big loser in all this, not me. I'm just a victim once removed. ;)
Tune out the noise, brother.
Who really cares. Name 3 people who’s opinions you give a damn about who are saying things that make you miserable over this. I bet you can’t. Let it go, let the haters hate because......THEY HATE US CUZ THEY AINT US.
 
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He doesn't owe me anything, except a trip to the Super Bowl (I'll even pay!)! Seriously, haters gonna hate and people gnashing their teeth like this is the worst play they have ever seen look ridiculous. BB has the right idea entirely - on to Miami!
It was stupid...and it was wrong. But it’s in the past, so let’s move forward.

We have a kind of new phenomenon where some believe we’re supposed to feel guilty and humble over someone else’s mistake

I haven’t felt an ounce of guilt or remorse since Gronk took his frustrations out in an unacceptable way. But I still Love Gronk!
 
OK Ray, I get it. In fact I'm starting to get a little defensive here. I bust my ass on game day HOPING I'm going to get a 6 page thread and rarely get. And this thread was just an emotional over-reaction to what was happening 3 days AFTER the hit.

And no, I guess, Gronk doesn't owe us any "apology" because we are just fans, and HE is the kind of player that makes us WANT to watch.

But the thing is that part of the joy of being a Pats fan during this unprecedented reign of excellence is the pride we as fans feel in the success of our team. Having to fight the consequences of the cheating injustices and now this crap, takes away from that joy. I mean, Ray, have you enjoyed all the Gronk talk this week? I don't think so. Now the narrative has expanded to becoming a racial issue, with "whole 'hood out to get Gronk". We are going to have to deal with that one for at LEAST the next two weeks

BTW- There is no question that I took this over the top personally. Gronk is ultimately going to be the big loser in all this, not me. I'm just a victim once removed. ;)

Coming onto PF and posting should always be about entertainment, an outlet, a diversion from real world problems. Make your post/statement and don't worry about the rest, never take it serious, do your best to not get into a back and forth about it (follow the one reply rule only as much as possible), and whether the post is liked, disliked or ignored is literally of no importance. And if 25 straight posters say they want to see you executed by firing squad for your original post? Post a reply with a hyperlink that offers cheap bulk purchase for 25 genuine execution rifles (but it's actually a link to viagra or how they've won the Nigerian lottery).
At least that's how I try to treat PF -- for enjoyment and in wiseguy mode. But if that doesn't work for you then my advice is to start drinking heavily :)
 
OK Ray, I get it. In fact I'm starting to get a little defensive here. I bust my ass on game day HOPING I'm going to get a 6 page thread and rarely get. And this thread was just an emotional over-reaction to what was happening 3 days AFTER the hit.

And no, I guess, Gronk doesn't owe us any "apology" because we are just fans, and HE is the kind of player that makes us WANT to watch.

But the thing is that part of the joy of being a Pats fan during this unprecedented reign of excellence is the pride we as fans feel in the success of our team. Having to fight the consequences of the cheating injustices and now this crap, takes away from that joy. I mean, Ray, have you enjoyed all the Gronk talk this week? I don't think so. Now the narrative has expanded to becoming a racial issue, with "whole 'hood out to get Gronk". We are going to have to deal with that one for at LEAST the next two weeks

BTW- There is no question that I took this over the top personally. Gronk is ultimately going to be the big loser in all this, not me. I'm just a victim once removed. ;)


Ken I witnessed the slaying in dismay. I shed tears. How could they. Those red X-ing bastards.

But then I realized something Ken. Only you could take a hit like that and still be standing. Standing tall. Standing strong.

Those red X-ing bastards didn't wound you. They didn't cut you. Nay. They bounced off of you and hurt themselves. You're the rubber and they're the glue. They're the sticks and stones and you're the bones.

While watching the disgusting thrashing I thought I saw you post "Forgive them Ian for they do not know what they do".

Instantly I realized he isn't getting crucified for what he did. He's sacrificing himself for what all those sinning Red X-ing bastards may do.

I thought "He saw Gronk snap and he knows this forum may snap too". I saw what you did man. You released the tension onto yourself.

You saved the forum Ken. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
 
Gotta wonder if the over the top media reaction fuels this internal discord?? It seems as though every brief time I turn on something sports that Gronk is the main story, guess bad news travels fast. Bad news for the Patriots or a Patriots Player travels the speed of sound..

They all come out of the woodwork in their quest for some sort of moral superiority, while in reality they are all bottom feeders.. there are many out there who wish for the demise of the Patriots.. heard something the other day by some low life pundit suggesting that the Patriots should forfeit the rest of the season for the actions of Gronk.. it is layers and layers of ********.
 
Gronk stole Christmas!
How The Gronk Stole the Playoffs
by Dr. Soused

Every Billsfan Down in Buffville Liked Gameday a lot...
But the Gronk, Who lived just north of Buffville, Did NOT!
The Gronk hated Bills in the Playoffs! The whole Bills Postseason!
Now, please don't ask why. No one quite knows the reason.
It could be his head wasn't screwed on just right.
It could be, perhaps, that his shoes were too tight.
But I think that the most likely reason you seek,
May have been that his DD coffee was two shots too weak.
Whatever the reason, His coffee or his shoes,
He stood there on Gameday Eve, hating the Bills,
Staring down from his mancave with a sour, Gronky frown,
At the warm lighted windows below in their town.
For he knew every Billsfan down in Buffville beneath,
Was busy now, drinking Coors Light or mead.
"And they're drinking weak ass Coors Light!" he snarled with a sneer,
"Tomorrow is Gameday! It's practically here!"
Then he growled, with his Gronk fingers nervously drumming,
"I MUST find some way to stop their Playoffs from coming!"
For Tomorrow, he knew, all the Billsfan girls and boys,
Would wake bright and early. They'd rush for their tvs!
And then! Oh, the noise! Oh, the Noise!
Noise! Noise! Noise!
That's one thing he hated! The NOISE!
NOISE! NOISE! NOISE!
Then the Billsfans, young and old, would sit down to a feast.
And they'd feast! And they'd feast! And they'd FEAST!
FEAST! FEAST! FEAST!
They would feast on Buffalo brats, and rare Buffalo-roast beast.
Which was something the Gronk couldn't stand in the least!
And THEN They'd do something He liked least of all!
Every Billsfan down in Buffville, the tall and the small,
Would stand close together, with Gameday bells ringing.
They'd stand hand-in-hand. And the Billfans would start singing!
They'd sing! And they'd sing! And they'd SING!
SING! SING! SING!
And the more the Gronk thought of this Billsfan GamedaySing,
The more the Gronk thought, "I must stop this whole thing!"
"Why, for seven years I've put up with it now!"
"I MUST stop their Playoffs from coming! But HOW?"
Then he got an idea! An awful idea!
THE GRONK GOT A WONDERFUL, AWFUL IDEA!
"I know just what to do!" The Gronk laughed in his throat.
And he made a quick diagram and stuck it in his coat.
And he chuckled, and clucked, "What a great Gronky trick!"
"With this plan in my coat, I’ll just be a real prick!"
"All I need is a helper..." The Gronk looked around.
But, since helpers are scarce, there was none to be found.
Did that stop the old Gronk? No! The Gronk simply said,
"If I can't find a helper, I'll make one instead!"
So he called his pal, Dola. Then he took some green bread,
And he shook Dola’s hand and patted his head.
THEN He lifted some weights and went over his plan,
A ramshackle play would work and Dola was just the man.
Then the Gronk said, "Let’s Party!" And he went out of town,
Toward New Era where the Billsfans were tailgating with nary a frown.
All their grills were off. Quiet snow filled the air.
All the Billsfans were daydreaming sweet dreams without care.
When he came to the first play he laid the defense bare.
"This is stop number one," the old Gronky hissed,
And he seemd quite aloof, and raised a Gronky fist.
Then he ran back to the huddle. A rather great play.
But, if Brady could do it, then so could the Gronk.
He got stuck only once, just like me and you.
Then he pushed with his might a Bills player or two.
Where the little Bills players all stood in a row.
"These Players," he grinned, "are the first things to go!"
Then he slithered and slunk, with a smile most unpleasant,
Around the whole stadium, and took everything present!
Brews! And Buff Gear! Sweatshirts! Hats!
The Gameday Guides! Popcorn! And Buffalo brats!
And he stuffed them in bags. Then the Gronk, very nimbly,
Stuffed all the bags, one by one, up the runway!
Then he slunk back to the field. He shook the Billsfans!
He shook the Buffalo media! Then on with the plan!
He cleaned the clock of every defender on his way to score.
Why, that Gronk even took their will to play anymore!
He pushed all the Bills down that were in sight.
"And NOW!" grinned Gronk, "I will Tre’davious White!"
As the Gronk was grabbed and shoved on every play,
And he played through it all to a 2 TD day.
He turned around fast and he saw the small Bill!
Tre’davious White, who was a bitter little pill.
The Gronk had been caught by this tiny Bill daughter,
Who Gronk wanted to throw in ice cold water.
She stared at the Gronk and said, "Gronk, die,”
"you have to stop taking our Playoff chances so Die"
But, you know, that old Gronk was so smart and so slick,
He thought up a retort, and he thought it up quick!
"Why, my sweet little girl," the Gronk replied,
"There's a pass coming so stop grabbing my side."
"And I'm going for my 3rd TD, my sweet dear."
"I'll jump up there. Then I'll bring it back here."
And his words infuriated the child as Gronk patted her head,
But Tre’Davious pushed Gronk hard and caught the ball instead.
And when Tre’davious came down near the sideline,
Dola pounced into action and hit her one last time!
Then the last thing anyone could think would transpire!
Gronk lost control, and forearmed White to great ire.
As the sweet little Bills player lay still, motionless.
On the hard cold ground feet where ended Gronk’s success.
And Gronk was castigated and cursed for retaliating.
"They're finding out now that no Playoff is coming!"
"They're just waking up! I know just what they'll do!"
"Their mouths will hang open a minute or two,
Then the Bilsfans down in Buffville will all cry BooHoo!"
"That's a noise," grinned the Gronk, "That I simply MUST hear!"
So he paused. And the Gronk put his hand to his ear.
And he did hear a sound rising over the snow.
It started in low. Then it started to grow.
But the sound wasn't sad! Why, this sound sounded merry!
It couldn't be so! But it WAS merry! VERY!
He stared down at Buffville! The Gronk popped his eyes!
Then he shook! What he saw was a shocking surprise!
Every Billsfan down in Buffville, the tall and the small,
Was singing! Without any Playoffs at all!
He HADN'T stopped Playoffs from coming just the SAME!
This Season for Billsfans had ended the same!
And the Gronk, with his Gronk-feet ice-cold in the snow,
Stood puzzling and puzzling: "How could it be so?"
"It came with bad losses! It came without wins!"
"It came without great plays, hard work, or discipline!"
And he puzzled three hours, till his puzzler was sore.
Then the Gronk thought of something he hadn't before!
"Maybe football joy," he thought, "doesn't come from a win."
"Maybe Football...perhaps...means a little bit more!"
And what happened then? Well...in Buffville they say,
That the Gronk's awareness Grew three sizes that day!
And the minute his mind didn't feel quite so tight,
He whizzed with his load through the bright morning streets,
And he brought back the Buffalo joy! And food for the feast!

And he, HE himself! The Gronk spoke of the LOVE of the GAME!

Because at the end of the day, FOOTBALL fans are really the Same.
 
I think you all need to apologize to me for contributing to this thread
 
Gronk should fall on his knees and weep like a little girl during his apology to fans, non-fans, and the world in general.

But I don't think that will be enough for some.
 
How The Gronk Stole the Playoffs
by Dr. Soused

Every Billsfan Down in Buffville Liked Gameday a lot...
But the Gronk, Who lived just north of Buffville, Did NOT!
The Gronk hated Bills in the Playoffs! The whole Bills Postseason!
Now, please don't ask why. No one quite knows the reason.
It could be his head wasn't screwed on just right.
It could be, perhaps, that his shoes were too tight.
But I think that the most likely reason you seek,
May have been that his DD coffee was two shots too weak.
Whatever the reason, His coffee or his shoes,
He stood there on Gameday Eve, hating the Bills,
Staring down from his mancave with a sour, Gronky frown,
At the warm lighted windows below in their town.
For he knew every Billsfan down in Buffville beneath,
Was busy now, drinking Coors Light or mead.
"And they're drinking weak ass Coors Light!" he snarled with a sneer,
"Tomorrow is Gameday! It's practically here!"
Then he growled, with his Gronk fingers nervously drumming,
"I MUST find some way to stop their Playoffs from coming!"
For Tomorrow, he knew, all the Billsfan girls and boys,
Would wake bright and early. They'd rush for their tvs!
And then! Oh, the noise! Oh, the Noise!
Noise! Noise! Noise!
That's one thing he hated! The NOISE!
NOISE! NOISE! NOISE!
Then the Billsfans, young and old, would sit down to a feast.
And they'd feast! And they'd feast! And they'd FEAST!
FEAST! FEAST! FEAST!
They would feast on Buffalo brats, and rare Buffalo-roast beast.
Which was something the Gronk couldn't stand in the least!
And THEN They'd do something He liked least of all!
Every Billsfan down in Buffville, the tall and the small,
Would stand close together, with Gameday bells ringing.
They'd stand hand-in-hand. And the Billfans would start singing!
They'd sing! And they'd sing! And they'd SING!
SING! SING! SING!
And the more the Gronk thought of this Billsfan GamedaySing,
The more the Gronk thought, "I must stop this whole thing!"
"Why, for seven years I've put up with it now!"
"I MUST stop their Playoffs from coming! But HOW?"
Then he got an idea! An awful idea!
THE GRONK GOT A WONDERFUL, AWFUL IDEA!
"I know just what to do!" The Gronk laughed in his throat.
And he made a quick diagram and stuck it in his coat.
And he chuckled, and clucked, "What a great Gronky trick!"
"With this plan in my coat, I’ll just be a real prick!"
"All I need is a helper..." The Gronk looked around.
But, since helpers are scarce, there was none to be found.
Did that stop the old Gronk? No! The Gronk simply said,
"If I can't find a helper, I'll make one instead!"
So he called his pal, Dola. Then he took some green bread,
And he shook Dola’s hand and patted his head.
THEN He lifted some weights and went over his plan,
A ramshackle play would work and Dola was just the man.
Then the Gronk said, "Let’s Party!" And he went out of town,
Toward New Era where the Billsfans were tailgating with nary a frown.
All their grills were off. Quiet snow filled the air.
All the Billsfans were daydreaming sweet dreams without care.
When he came to the first play he laid the defense bare.
"This is stop number one," the old Gronky hissed,
And he seemd quite aloof, and raised a Gronky fist.
Then he ran back to the huddle. A rather great play.
But, if Brady could do it, then so could the Gronk.
He got stuck only once, just like me and you.
Then he pushed with his might a Bills player or two.
Where the little Bills players all stood in a row.
"These Players," he grinned, "are the first things to go!"
Then he slithered and slunk, with a smile most unpleasant,
Around the whole stadium, and took everything present!
Brews! And Buff Gear! Sweatshirts! Hats!
The Gameday Guides! Popcorn! And Buffalo brats!
And he stuffed them in bags. Then the Gronk, very nimbly,
Stuffed all the bags, one by one, up the runway!
Then he slunk back to the field. He shook the Billsfans!
He shook the Buffalo media! Then on with the plan!
He cleaned the clock of every defender on his way to score.
Why, that Gronk even took their will to play anymore!
He pushed all the Bills down that were in sight.
"And NOW!" grinned Gronk, "I will Tre’davious White!"
As the Gronk was grabbed and shoved on every play,
And he played through it all to a 2 TD day.
He turned around fast and he saw the small Bill!
Tre’davious White, who was a bitter little pill.
The Gronk had been caught by this tiny Bill daughter,
Who Gronk wanted to throw in ice cold water.
She stared at the Gronk and said, "Gronk, die,”
"you have to stop taking our Playoff chances so Die"
But, you know, that old Gronk was so smart and so slick,
He thought up a retort, and he thought it up quick!
"Why, my sweet little girl," the Gronk replied,
"There's a pass coming so stop grabbing my side."
"And I'm going for my 3rd TD, my sweet dear."
"I'll jump up there. Then I'll bring it back here."
And his words infuriated the child as Gronk patted her head,
But Tre’Davious pushed Gronk hard and caught the ball instead.
And when Tre’davious came down near the sideline,
Dola pounced into action and hit her one last time!
Then the last thing anyone could think would transpire!
Gronk lost control, and forearmed White to great ire.
As the sweet little Bills player lay still, motionless.
On the hard cold ground feet where ended Gronk’s success.
And Gronk was castigated and cursed for retaliating.
"They're finding out now that no Playoff is coming!"
"They're just waking up! I know just what they'll do!"
"Their mouths will hang open a minute or two,
Then the Bilsfans down in Buffville will all cry BooHoo!"
"That's a noise," grinned the Gronk, "That I simply MUST hear!"
So he paused. And the Gronk put his hand to his ear.
And he did hear a sound rising over the snow.
It started in low. Then it started to grow.
But the sound wasn't sad! Why, this sound sounded merry!
It couldn't be so! But it WAS merry! VERY!
He stared down at Buffville! The Gronk popped his eyes!
Then he shook! What he saw was a shocking surprise!
Every Billsfan down in Buffville, the tall and the small,
Was singing! Without any Playoffs at all!
He HADN'T stopped Playoffs from coming just the SAME!
This Season for Billsfans had ended the same!
And the Gronk, with his Gronk-feet ice-cold in the snow,
Stood puzzling and puzzling: "How could it be so?"
"It came with bad losses! It came without wins!"
"It came without great plays, hard work, or discipline!"
And he puzzled three hours, till his puzzler was sore.
Then the Gronk thought of something he hadn't before!
"Maybe football joy," he thought, "doesn't come from a win."
"Maybe Football...perhaps...means a little bit more!"
And what happened then? Well...in Buffville they say,
That the Gronk's awareness Grew three sizes that day!
And the minute his mind didn't feel quite so tight,
He whizzed with his load through the bright morning streets,
And he brought back the Buffalo joy! And food for the feast!

And he, HE himself! The Gronk spoke of the LOVE of the GAME!

Because at the end of the day, FOOTBALL fans are really the Same.

He didn't forearm Whi..........

Ugh. I give up. :D

Just kidding.

Great job.
 
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