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  1. JFK

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    Probably double team Smith or PI cos he is deadly when going deep. A variety of things can happen.
     
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    2007 isn't 2013 son... :coffee:
     
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    Awesome! Guess what games Gronk missed? Any important ones? Yeah, exactly!!!!

    If/when he IS injured, a deep threat compensates for him not being there.

    :coffee:
     
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    How about not choosing either/or and get BOTH!!!! Think about it.

    Why would you want to limit yourself in a chess game?

    Not a 2nd round Bethel Johnson. I mean a legit 1st for once.
     
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    There is simply no comparing the 2001 Pats to this year's Pats. If anything, this year's Ravens looked more like the 2001 Pats than this years Pats did.
     
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    We didn't have good Tight Ends in 2007.

    Randy Moss disappeared in the playoffs.
     
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    No, but an offensive line that can run for 2 yards when it needs to will. Lets fix what actually needs to be fixed.
     
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    We don't necessarily need a STUD. We do need someone who can do enough to help open others up. We need someone who at least garners respect and hopefully requires Safety help. It would be nice having someone open in that part of the field, but it does not mean we need to overspend for someone. That WR also needs to understand he will not be the focus of the O. Hopefully, the team finds someone like that.
     
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    Moss disappeared because McDaniels kept calling the long bomb to him and the D played him double triple coverage all night. We were predictable and the Giants took advantage.
     
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    Similarly, the Patriots' recent losses are because once a team stops the offense from passing in the middle 20 yards of the field, the team gets stopped especially in the red zone. Sure the team could use a better outside WR but every single team has certain flaws, the difference is adapting instead of sticking to the same thing that may have gotten you there but is being stopped in a playoff game.
     
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    Having a stud WR won't do anything. It's not about stretching the field. It's not about scoring 50 points a game in the playoffs. It's about having a defense that doesn't get scorched in the secondary and can generate a push at the LOS and having an offense that can simply control the clock and move the chains. We saw that against the Texans. Against the Ravens without Talib/Chandler we were completely sunk. We're close, but need to keep treking forward.

    Adding a stud WR won't do anything in that regard. Gronkowski is a stud receiver that we sorely missed in the red area that will be back. We won SBs not because we had a top 3 offense of all time, we won SBs because we had an efficient offense that didn't turn the ball over, a strong special teams that was always an advantage and our defense could stop the run and the pass effectively.

    On paper, having a Larry Fitzgerald of course makes our talent much better. But in the salary cap era, it's not realistic to add him and not simultaneously detract from our defense. You can't have both. I'd rather have a mediocre #2 WR and a very good pass rushing DT than a big name, overpaid, wideout.
     
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    Because it's a complete waste of materials and will do nothing but make our defense even worse. Having the GOAT offense doesn't mean anything if your defense can't stop anyone.

    All that firepower on the Patriots offense in 2011 sure did us a whole lot of good on the sidelines as Eli drove 80 yards for a game winning TD in the Superbowl.
     
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    Yeah, BB should hamstring his team from having a deep threat. Great idea. :rolleyes:

    Terrible thread.
     
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    Sorry buddy, this isn't Madden. You can't give big contracts to every player you want. Go root for the Jets and Raiders if that's how you think a team should be run. We had the #3 scoring offense of all time. Adding more resources to our offense is a complete waste. We just need to stay healthy there we already have enough talent. On defense we simply do not have enough talent and desperately need more resources invested there.


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    I'm sure if another Randy Moss type moment came up where Belichick had the opportunity to trade a 4th round pick for Andre Johnson and AJ takes a paycut, Belichick would do that. Having a deep threat would help this team, having a superstar WR would help this team. The point is that this is not a video game where you can just willy-nilly add anyone you want to the team with no reprecussions. You have to manage the cap and spending 10-14 million on a WR is a complete waste of resources in concordance with what our needs are.
     
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    You need both sides addressed. Not just one. And yes, you do need to get a deep threat to make the opposing defenses not just focused on all 7 of the tight ends. :rolleyes:
     
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    Draft one dumbass...ever heard of a rookie contract?
     
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    Splurging on a stud WR won't fix this problem. The problem is that come playoff time, opposing teams take away the Patriots' favorite thing to do after extensive scouting (basically pulling a reverse Belichick on the Patriots), and the offense doesn't adjust. That's why the last half dozen playoff losses the team struggles to get even 17 points despite leading the league in points scored.
     
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    I want a big bodied and athletic receiver that can threaten EVERY level of the field and isn't afraid to go over the middle. A Demaryius Thomas type is preferable. A guy like that stretches the field, makes the tough catches, and helps the red zone offense when a guy like Gronk is out.
     
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    Oh right, brilliant. Why didn't I think of that. We can just scoop up AJ Green or Larry Fitzgerald at #29 in the draft this spring.

    Meanwhile since defensive players are apparently playing for free, we can pick up Melton for peanuts, because it's not like we should invest our draft picks in real positions of need. No, we should spend them on mythical #1 players that don't exist where we draft.

    Better yet, lets trade 3 future #1 picks so we can get into the top 5 and hope we get lucky and don't draft a bust of a franchise wide out that only come out maybe once every five drafts besides flukes when Green/Jones did.
     
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    There should be a good amount of quality receivers left in the second and third rounds.
     
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