I have not expanded on my knowledge of non-profits for two reasons. First, the statements were obvious ones to anyone who deals with non-profits on a regular basis. Second, more importantly, I wanted you to continue with your rhetoric to expose you for what you really are. As usual, you resort to extreme hyperbole, insult, putting words in others' mouths and lashing out to try to prove yourself to be right, regardless of how little you really know about a subject.
No, you nhave not expanded because you have no knowledge.
As I have said, I am not an expert in non-profit organizations. Stating that I work for a non-profit was simply to prove wrong the other db's lame accusation that I know absolutely nothing about non-profits.
No, you stated that you do not wish to hear anyone elses opinion because you have seen it from both sides. That is claiming expert knowledge.
Because non-profits vary so widely in their source of income (grants, donations, revenue) and purpose, working for a single non-profit for two years, unless you are in legal or financials (which I am not), certainly is not a qualifier to comment on how most non-profits generally work.
Then why did you say you need not listen to anyone elses opinion because of your experience?
That said, for more than 13 years I was a vendor/consultant working in pre-sales, post-sales an support roles for hundreds of customers, many dozens of which were non-profit organizations. Their purchasing practices when purchasing technology and services for a new solution (not replacing an existing solution) differ vastly from most for-profit organizations. They always include multiple vendors for bids, the financial people are always the ones who sign the SOWs and the process is almost always more drawn out, and including many more internal employees than just about any for-profit oragnization (with a few exceptions i.e. companies that work for the DOD). As different as the purchasing process is, it pales in comparison to how non-profits deal with releasing capital investments, like old equiptment. They are sticklers about the vendor picking up old equiptment from the premisis, and are very thorough on the documenting exactly where that equiptment ends up. Sure, I am no expert on non-profit organizations, but after more than 13 years of working with them and their for-profit counterparts, I can say with a very high level of confidence that they do, in fact, operate differently than for-profit organizations.
What does any of that have to do with the difference between the way the Packers and the Chiefs operate?
The organizational structure and decision making in purchasing of for profit vs non profit are irrelevant to this discussion, and do not illustate any difference in their desire to maximize their financial success. In fact, your example suggests the non profit is more motivated to make good decisions, which arguably could be correct because management and executives end up with what would otherwise be profit in their bonusses.
Sorry but the process of a company in purchasing that you tried to make sales to is a moronic example of how the Green Bay Packers operate in relaition to the rest of the NFL.
Twenty minutes of google research doesn't make anyone an expert on any subject.
Nor does your explanation that while you were not in a position where you could understand it you saw that non profits had a different process to make purchases.
If you think my knowledge is based on a Google search, you just arent paying attention.
You don't always have to be the "smartest guy in the room".
Never said I have to be, but I also don't have to tell you that you are right when you are wrong to avoid that accusation.
Not everything is a competition, and it is ok to to be wrong sometimes.
Pot meet kettle
Unfortunately, I hold little hope that your have learned any humility from this little exercise.
I wold very humbly admit I was wrong, if I were. Humility is not saying you are wrong when you are not because the guy who is wrong has his feelings hurt. So no, there is no humility for me in this situation, because there is nothing to humble me in this thread. You on the other hand...
Much more likely, you will lash out, blaming others for doing what is you own MO.
I am not or have not blmed anyone. 'You are wrong. If it makes you feel better you can pretend you are right I guess.
If you do lash out, please keep it confined to the forums because if there are still any loved ones living with you, they've been through enough. You need help.
You type that kind of a comment because we disagree on a message board and think that I need help. Wow.
Listen, this has clearly become a traumatic experience for you, so lets do this. Tyope whatever you want to in response. Call me name, accuse me of kidnapping the Lindberg baby, proclaim yourself winner of the discussion, hell, proclaim yourself king of the world. Go for it, buddy. I will not be responding anymore because you have obviously lost touch with what a message board discussion is.
Good luck to you.
