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  1. Pessimistic Pete

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    Our #1 slot receiver, Amendola, has missed 23 games in 4 seasons. His back up, Edleman, is also injury prone.

    Gronk has had a major injury the last two seasons and is now going to need additional surgery, possibly missing the start of this season as well.

    Hernandez is injured every single year.

    Our top 3 receiving threats, all injury prone.

    Our #1 corner is injury-prone, some related to questionable work-ethic/conditioning.

    Is there absolutely anyone here who actually excepts all 4 of the above to be starting our first playoff game? This scares me. Hopefully Chandler Jones bounces back as well.

    On paper, I still believe this is the best team in the NFL. Sadly, I can no longer expect a healthy Gronk/Hernandez to ever be on the field at the same time in a big playoff game.
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    Go home Pete...you're drunk
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    its part of the game I cant remember any NFL team going into the playoffs with all 22 starters that they started the season with, enjoy the summer with your kids we will worry about injuries when the season starts in 4 months
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    I don't think the Patriots believe being 'injury prone' is a real thing, i think they believe in their strength and conditioning program and rehab programs, its fair to say that all of these players have had bad luck, certainly in the case of Gronkowski and Amendola.

    You see the Patriots taking 'Injury prone' players all of the time in the draft and in free agency, its the reason they ended up with Gronkowski.

    I think the Patriots see an 'injury prone' player as an opportunity to put their conditioning program to work, and also as a way to gain value in an area not many other teams are willing to.

    This 'gaining value' effect is the reason why the Patriots end up with so many great players, they are constantly identifying someone with a medical condition or someone who is expected to fall due to personal issues such as Aaron Hernandez's marijuana usage.

    One of the main reasons the Patriots are able to do this is because of their backup depth, which is one of the best in the league, on offense last year the TEs were barely on the field at the same time, this is a TE centric offense and the Patriots still finished with the #1 scoring offense in the league.
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    Officially?

    Hmm. Not really seeing what's so "official" about any of this....

    Does the injury report now designate players to be "injury-prone," or something? Is there an "injury-prone" tag, these days?
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    I can't necessarily call most of these players injury prone.

    Amendola has dislocated his elbow and broke his collarbone (which could have killed him, by the way. His injury didn't get the same press as Roethlisberger's). When it comes to bone break like that, it's not a sign of weakness, it's a freak incident that just came at an unfortunate time. If those breaks don't happen, Amendola would have missed no more games than your "average" NFL player.

    Gronkowski had back issues coming out of college, and some could argue they have affected him at times. But has he missed time because of back issues? No. He has missed time because Pollard decided to drop all 220 pounds of himself directly onto Gronkowski's ankle, and because Sergio Brown decided to actually show up on film once (Career highlight?). Gronkowski is no more injury prone than Amendola, in my opinion. I'm not worrying about the infection until he is actually missing games in September.

    Hernandez is the same deal, greatly. He has missed 2 games in each of his first 2 seasons (which to me is still acceptable, playing 16 games is tough), but last year was a complete accident.

    Chandler Jones was fighting off a high ankle sprain (IN BOTH ANKLES). Talib is the closest one I'd put to being injury prone.
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    It's always been injury prone. As long as Brady stays healthy they'll be in the playoffs.

    In the playoffs, even though injuries have hurt, they are not the reason we lose. We lose because we get punched in the mouth and don't know how to react. After watching this team in 2004 lose 2 HOF caliber players Ty Law, Richard Seymour, and another starting CB Tyrone Poole for the AFC playoffs and still dominate 2 great teams I refuse to use Gronk, Talib as an excuse. If our defense finally takes that next step and is able to get nasty when it counts we'll manage through the injuries.
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    Well at least you're living up to your name Pete.
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    Love the shoot the messenger mentality when an OP veers away from Pats good, World bad topics. Besides the brittleness of our pass catchers, don't forget Glass I Dowling has lived up to his rep and Talib managed to be on the field for half his Pats games.
    I am proud BB squeezed some sweet deals for Danny A and the Seabass. The savings allowed us to get Edelperson for a couple games :)
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    Let's not forget that our starting QB has also missed 15 games over the last 5 years...
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    Seriously......you haven't been paying attention to the contracts NE has been writing for their injury prone players.... Amendola, Edelman, and Vollmer. It is comforting that if/when these guys go down the team will save some coin :)
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    My favorite part of this thread, is that he typed "an totally", which means he was going to leave it as "an injury prone team" but thought nah, that's not inflammatory enough. An TOTALLY injury prone team will really convey my general dissatisfaction with the risk of injury in football, which is TOTALLY isolated to the New England Patriots.
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    Chicken Little to English translation:

    "Some important players on the Patriot's roster have health/injury concerns."
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    Perhaps the Patriots are looking to be the all-injured team. Didn't they set a record for most IRed players in 2004 when they won the WB?
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    He's going overboard on some of the names here, but I see the method to his madness. The biggest downfall between this team and another Lombardi has been health to some of their biggest targets the last two seasons. So... with that in mind, the team lets their most consistent player outside of Brady ride off into the sunset to join Peyton Manning in Denver and then plucks up a guy that has missed 23 games the last couple of seasons. Still doesn't make sense, but I'm done railing against it after this. Thankfully, the draft is almost here.
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    "Totally" is too extreme.....just TEs and WRs. At least BB got some sweet deals on his injury prone WRs....so we got that going for us...which is nice
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    In the thread title it's "a", not "an".

    It's "expects" not "excepts"

    AH and Gronk are signed long term, what is it you want done? Edelman may not even break camp with the team.

    Do please explain about our top CB not being in shape - cite your sources.
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    Without Gronk, the pass catching options vs. Baltimore were woefully inadequate. In other words, Plan B blew. Brady turned into a 53% passer and the offense died in the red zone.
    Going into 2013 with a gimpy Gronk, BB's latest Plan B is full of injury prone options and roster filling JAGs. I get the concern
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    Please BB draft a redzone threat WR so that if Gronk is out we don't become inept :(
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    The offense was able to sustain drives in that game, particularly because Welker was able to get off the press and dedicate the defense's attention his way. But yes, once we got into the red zone, the offense got shut down. That's why I'm so high on guys like Hunter. They provide an extra big body that can threaten all levels of the field and mitigate a potential loss of Gronk in the red zone.
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    And he'll be there in the 2nd round most likely. Would love Hunter.
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    They have a red one threat on the team already. Ballard was a TD machine. The guy is a big target that can catch the ball in traffic.
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    I like Hunter too. He has some route running issues but, IMO, they're overblown and not on par with Patterson's sloppy route running. Hunter's issues look easier to correct. Put that on top of his raw athleticism and ability to threaten all levels of the field, and you have a winner. But I wouldn't be disappointed with Woods or Wheaton either.
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    Anyone that can threaten intermediate to deep is okay with me. I think Hunter can be refined, after all no one is perfect at WR otherwise they would go top 5. Hopefully we draft a guy this year, I think we will given all the private workouts we've had with WRs early and often in the pre-draft process.
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