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    re: Seymour "I was blindsided" (merged)

    The Big Overrated is using his family as an excuse for his delayed arrival in Oakland??
    That's why the Raiders sent the Big Overrated a 5 day letter?? :rofl:
    Try again Richard!!
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    Ian's Daily Blog - Ron Borges of the Boston Herald conducted an intereview this morning with recently traded defensive lineman Richard Seymour, and the veteran said in his interview that the team’s decision to ship him off to Oakland left him “blindsided” and struggling to get his personal matters in order. “First of all, I was blindsided by this whole [...]

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    Of course the trade was unexpected. Glad to see he's looking out for the kids. He's moved on. Good luck and good health in Oakland.
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    Perfectly understandable. Remember the Pats weren't considering trading him UNTIL Oakland made them an off that "they couldn't refuse". We were all blind sided, and logisically its been a nightmare for Richard. I think we've all been a little unrealistic to think that he'd be able to jump the next plane to Oakland and carry on as if nothing much happened. Its taken a week to get his sh!t together and now he'll carry on. I wish him well
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    Must be tough for Seymour. Richard actually sounds like a good guy, family man, has his head on straight... I'm pretty sure it's his agent who is the psycho. His agent is the same guy who represents Michael Crabtree, who is still holding out.
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    Thanks for the memories Big Sey, hope you have some success in Oakland.

    Next topic. :rolleyes:
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    Nothing but respect for Richard, glad you took care of your family you did the right thing, now go play Monday night and do us a favor and knock the crap out of Phillip cry me a Rivers.
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    Best wishes Big Sey, I never thought you dogged it on those bad knees personally. Hope you stay healthy.
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    I thought I read at the beginning of this that RS told someone he had a feeling he was on his way out?
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    So he had never faced up to the fact that part of the cost of getting all that money is separation from his family?

    A. Nobody said he's a genius
    B. If his wife went all irrational, it could be a smart move to back her up for a bit, until it became obvious even to her he had no choice but to report to Oakland ;)

    B, while unsupported by anything like solid facts, isn't a totally crazy guess, given that Mrs. Seymour has something of a history of excited behavior.
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    Misogynist!







    only kidding Fence....
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    He told Warren that last season, but perceptions can change over time. Maybe he thought that w/ the uncapped year, he'd be signable. Maybe the Pats expressed an intention to negotiate with him on a new contract. Maybe he just wasn't expecting to be gone until after the season... who knows?
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    All he had to do was issue a statement shortly after the trade happened, explaining he had to get some personal business done before going west. No doubt he felt shocked and no doubt he had some heavy family issues to deal with. But the skeptic in me believes he was exhausting all options before finally deciding to report.
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    I'm in with the good luck to Big Sey Club. He helped us win 3 championships. He made 5 Pro Bowls. He wanted to get paid for his efforts. This is America isn't it? Perform well and expect to be compensated for it. I hope he leaves Oakland after one year so that they go 1-15 in 2010 and we get the 1st pick.

    I remember the Richard Seymour vs David Terrell debate on draft in 01. Those of us who wanted Seymour were ridiculed because he was only the 3rd best DL in that draft behind Justin Smith and Gerard Warren. While Terrell would team up with Brady(former college teammate and go on to great career).
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    I think Seymour thought he could pout about the trade and somehow get out of it. He's used to whining and getting his way. Then when he saw how things were falling and that he had no recourse, he used the "personal business" as an excuse. Pure and simple.
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    i especially liked his statement that he was looking forward to the Monday game and that "I'll be the guy on top of the quarterback." That's the Richard Seymour I'm going to miss.

    Now that the circus is over, good luck to you, Richard. Play well and be healthy!
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    none of us can know that, of course, unless we were speaking to him regularly over these past few days.

    i'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt to a guy who gave so much to the Pats and to accept that he was thrown for a loop by the whole matter and needed a few days to adjust.

    other than rumor, as far as I know these are his first public statements since the trade. his words here are perfectly reasonable and appropriate. any other reading of them or fantasy about what he "really" felt is our projection.
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    Of course it's my projection. I never presented it as anything else. But if Seymour merely needed a few days to adjust and sort out his family stuff, all he had to do was communicate that to the Raiders.
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    So happy they got rid of this guy (not a turd as some have said)....just hope he passes the physical and isn't planning on somehow sabotaging it.
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    Absolutely. Can't wait for the Borges spin tomorrow. I'm sure he'll skewer the evil, heartless Belichick for dumping all over a loyal player and his family. :rolleyes: I wonder if Borg-ass ever told Seymour to his face the Pats made a mistake drafting him instead of David Terrell.
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    i don't know about you, but I'll cop to having not acted as well as I should have a couple times in my life when I was really angry about an employer's or colleague's decision making; i know i've said and done things in private on those occasions that i wasn't proud of later. i'm willing to give it to Richard that he needed a few days to sort things out and get his head back on straight.

    and, come to think of it, we don't know what he or his agent actually did or did not communicate to the raiders over those days. since there was no apparent panic on the raiders part (they just did what they should have done throughout), it's quite possible that that communication was indeed made privately.
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    It's all speculation, but I don't think you get a 5-day warning letter if you've established a clear and amicable understanding that you just need a couple of days to sort out your family's move. Not to mention asking your union to file a grievance.
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    Makes sense.

    Based on what has and has not been said so far, let's cut Sey some slack in this situation. He was a major contributor to 3 rings and now plays elsewhere. Let's move on.
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    do we know for sure that the five day letter was sent or did someone just say it was sent? there have been so many rumors that I don't know what's fact and what's speculation any more. same thing for the grievance. was it filed or did someone just say it was filed?

    and even if the letter was sent and the grievance was filed, is it possible that owners might have a procedure whereby they send that letter on a certain day after a trade even if they anticipate an amicable resolution? and is it possible that the union is just doing the same thing, i.e., taking the steps to protect the interests of its player even if it thinks there won't be a problem?

    i just make these points not to be argumentative but because that's the way business is done, based on my personal experience. the more money that is at stake the more likely it is that procedures will be followed, whatever might be said or "thought"; everyone acts to protect their interests until the deal is actually done, in this case the Raiders and the Union.

    just another day at the office in the NFL. "Fine, we're happy to hear that Richard is going to report, but tell your client that we have to send the letter anyway." "Yeah, well the Union will be filing its grievance too, just in case things don't work out like we think they will." everybody covering their butts all the way around.
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    Do you realize how silly you sound?

    Yes, we know the letter was sent. Seymour received it. Only then did he agree to report. The NFLPA filed a grievance on his behalf over it. And then Seymour went public with "his version" to put a nice spin on it and make himself look good to get sympathy from the gullible public. Like you.

    No different from Jay Cutler crying his way out of Denver because "sob" that mean nasty coach hurt his feelings by considering possibly trading for another QB. Who cared that he was under contract for a very nice sum of money and effectively held up the franchise?
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    I'm all for letting it go, but lets not veer right off into revisionist history. The letter was sent. It was sent for a reason. The grievance was filed and the union can't do that unless the player requests it. He wasn't talking to Oakland in terms of a plan to report. He was telling all his friends, some of whom we know and trust, that he was upset. He was also telling them from the end of last season until at least early in camp that he thought he might be traded. He wanted to remain here although this is not his hometown when it comes to contract parameters.

    If you don't think his holding out for his last deal was a problem, and you don't get why his bizarre relationship with Borges was cause for concern (his last buddy before Richard was Drew...) then I'm not sure what to tell you. They said on WEEI Friday they heard there was quite the relationship altering exchange between he and Bill when he was informed of his trade. I predicted when he signed his 3 year extension that it was done as a short term extension as a compromise that would placate his need to be a top tier player and give them time to determine if they really wanted to retain him long term. It wasn't just about his health or level of performance, it was about being an all in team leader like Brady. When they stopped naming him a captain I figured they'd made their decision. This offer from Oakland just allowed them to acquire value by parting ways a year early.

    I was wounded when he held out. Bet Bill and Bob were too. He's wounded now. It is what it is. The business of football.
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    whatever, though i don't feel silly. :) as for the rest, you're entitled to your read of the situation. i might have a different one, but that's why we're here.
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    i agree with you on the "business of football." however this went down behind closed doors, it's done now.
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