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"A source familiar with the situation said last night that the veteran linebacker will re-sign with the New England Patriots late next week, pending a physical exam."
IF, IF he can stay healthy I love this signing, but this guy can't do it. So lets hope for the best.
I'm guessing he and Bruschi will take spills at ILB with Vrabel being the full-time guy. We're still not stacked, ebcause one big injury and suddenly we have a hole. Then again, expecting to have quality depth at every roster spot is like expecting to be given a million bucks.
How would one injury cause a hole?
That is great news. The difference in the run D after he went down was immediate, and noticeable. And while injuries are always a possibility, it might in some ways be less likely since he had the broken bone last year. Law of averages, you know. Cool.
IF, IF he can stay healthy I love this signing, but this guy can't do it. So lets hope for the best.
I'm guessing he and Bruschi will take spills at ILB with Vrabel being the full-time guy. We're still not stacked, ebcause one big injury and suddenly we have a hole. Then again, expecting to have quality depth at every roster spot is like expecting to be given a million bucks.
If Thomas goes down, vrabel who has clearly lost a step is forced on the outside.
BionicPatriot said:Then, we have two guys in Buschi and seau who are bot old and one who is unable to stay on the field for 16 games.
BionicPatriot said:You can look at it all with colored glasses all you want, but this LB aint what it once was. Re-signing a dinosaur does not make it that great either. If everyone can stay healthy, they'll be solid but your ****** nuts if you think this unit is anything clsoe to deep.
If Thomas goes down, vrabel who has clearly lost a step is forced on the outside. Then, we have two guys in Buschi and seau who are bot old and one who is unable to stay on the field for 16 games. You can look at it all with colored glasses all you want, but this LB aint what it once was. Re-signing a dinosaur does not make it that great either. If everyone can stay healthy, they'll be solid but your ****** nuts if you think this unit is anything clsoe to deep.
Magnificent news, hope it's true.
This is heresy, but after Seau's impressive performance last year there's something in the back of my mind wondering if Seau might nudge out Bruschi for a spot among the top 4 LBs. In any case, a rotation would be fantastic.
Vrabel has "clearly" lost a step? I don't think that's true.
Most of us wanted Vrabel on the outside for this year. He is less suited to play inside.
Seau's broken arm was a freak injury. I wouldn't call him injury prone because of it.
Yes, they're old. What are the Pats supposed to do? Stock the roster with young players behind them? That's what they've done, and it won't help.
Phifer and Johnson weren't dinosaurs in their final years? McGinest hadn't lost a step by 2005? Give me a break.
Colvin is 10x as good the player he was injured in 2003 and 2x the player he was rehabbing in 2004.
I'll take the 2004 Bruschi over the 2007 Bruschi, sure. But the 2004 and the 2007 Vrabel are very even. The 2004 Colvin isn't anything like the 2007 Colvin. The 2007 Thomas will be better than the 2004 McGinest. The 2007 Seau is every bit as good as the 2004 Johnson or Phifer.
The 2004 unit was beyond deep. It was utterly dominant. But in 2003, does Matt Chatham starting ring a bell? There was NO depth on the outside. Johnson was sparsely used inside.
The 2004 unit's backups were a very raw Banta-Cain, Chatham, Izzo, Davis, and Alexander for a few weeks.
The 2007 unit's backups will be an improving Woods and Alexander, Izzo, Mays, Rogers, and probably Lua.
Those two units are very, very comparable. One is much younger than the other. And don't complain about that, because you just went on about how the Pats are too old there.
If you think the Patriots don't have depth at LB right now, I'm very curious to see what you think depth is. Who do you want the Pats to get? Spikes? Urlacher? Briggs?
And people thought I was kidding when I said 2 weeks ago that Seau was talking about continuing playings....
Gotta love having family in San Diego...
Apparently...you are the one who has to do research..Johnson a role player?? In what way was Johnson a role player and Seau not??Um, do your research next time. Both Jonhosn and Phifer were role players for us. Bruschi and Seau are all day every day for us. We don't have situation LBs like that anymore.
If you think Vrabel would rack up the same numbers of sacks he did in 03/04, I'll bet anything he wont. You don't put an old slow LB on the outside.
BionicPatriot said:I'm not even talking about last year. Do you realize that every single season since 03 he ahs been injured? I don't know why your even bringing this up
BionicPatriot said:You wont find me playing wanna-be GM. I'd have liked the grab a guy like Harris, but who the hell knows. All I'm saying is we have an old unit.
BionicPatriot said:Um, do your research next time. Both Jonhosn and Phifer were role players for us. Bruschi and Seau are all day every day for us. We don't have situation LBs like that anymore.
BionicPatriot said:Wow, I like being positive but this is plain homerism.
BionicPatriot said:Colvin is good, but he's not close to the playmaker McGinest was for us.
BionicPatriot said:Vrabel even? Bull****. There's no way in hell Vrabel would touch the sack numbers he had those years.
BionicPatriot said:Don't even tell me it's because he was forced inside, because he still is not the same rusher on the outside.
BionicPatriot said:Again, Colvin is not an all-pro so stop beating that drum.
BionicPatriot said:I think Thomas is a beast, but we'll see.
BionicPatriot said:Again, you can't compare Seau to Johnson or Phifer. Both of them were situational players, coming in for situations. For instance, Johnson played a large part against the Steelers, Phifer was our cover guy against the Colts. If you think we're that deep your insane.
BionicPatriot said:Thats actually funny, I forgot he started for us at a point. But Vrabel came back rather quickly, remmeber when he came back with his 3 sack performance? Again, if we have one injury we can be up for some trouble. All depending on the injury, ofcourse.
BionicPatriot said:Your right, we werent a great depth team in 04. BUT, I'll take that Pats LB core 7 days a week and twice on sunday over the one we have now. That was McGinest's last good day, Vrabel younger, pre-stroke Bruschi. C'mon, this is ridiculous for you to argue.
BionicPatriot said:Your the only one I guess who has confidence if they have to step up for us seriously.
BionicPatriot said:I don't care about backups, my whole argument was that the LB core is not as good as it was because of starters. I only brought up depth to point out how ****** we'd be if someone is seriously injured.
BionicPatriot said:Ted Johnson, Phifer. Solid, not great role playing LBs. THATS depth. But you don't understand that to much obviously.
Apparently...you are the one who has to do research..Johnson a role player?? In what way was Johnson a role player and Seau not??