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  1. TheBostonStraggler

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    Over the last 10 games of the season SD gave up:

    24 to Rams
    25 to Cleveland
    41 to Cincy
    27 to Denver
    14 to Oakland
    21 to Buff
    20 to Denver
    9 to KC
    17 to Seattle
    20 to Arizona
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    218 total points
    21.8 per game avg.

    Notes regarding their last 10 games:

    - They scored 31.4 points per game on avg.
    - No team held SD under 20
    - 5 out of the 10 games they scored more than 30
    - They only had 1 game scoring above 30 in the last 6
    - They faced only 2 playoff teams
    - They faced no teams with more than 9 wins
    - They faced 2 teams in the top 10 in scoring (Rams #10,Cincy #4)
    and gave up a combined 65 points to them
    - They faced 2 teams in the top 10 of points allowed per game
    (Buff #10 and Denver #8) and scored a combined 59 points
    - LT had over 100 rushing yards in very game but against Arizona (66)
    - There appeared to be a correlation between LT's receiving totals and
    SD scoring. When he didn't have a lot of rec yds, they scored less (Rivers issue?).

    Now of course stats can be manipulated. I am sure there are stats to show why SD is a 14 win team (and the best team at that). However, if you look at the above stats and notes, it does seem that SD has a chink or two in its armor. If the Pats bring their A game, this thing can be done.....
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    Those stats can't be true. Chargers D is better than 85 Bears. And, their offense makes the 01 Rams look like a Punchbug compared to their Ferrari.
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    what a retard

    win is a win is a win is a win is a win is a win is a win they found ways to win all those games....nothing different than what the patsies try to do..win by 3
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    It may be time to brush off the SB 36 playbook in which they faced a similar double threat in M. Faulk who ran and was excellent catching the ball out of the backfield.
    If the Pats hold San Diego to 20 points, they win this game as I'm confident that they can put up more than that against SD's 'vaunted' defense.

    Edit-When I first posted this I didn't see the thread entitled "Gameplan for SD Starts with SB 36 ? "
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    In those final 10 games, we were without Shaun Phillips, Shawne Merriman and Luis Castillo for multiple games. When all our starters were playing on defense (vs. Denver and vs KC at home), we dominated, leading 14-3 vs. KC at the half and 28-3 vs. Denver.

    The Bolts defensive stats can be deceiving. They are not the best defense in the league but they are among the three or four best.
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    Don't count on Brady having all day to throw against the best front seven in football...
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    This could well (no surprise) come down to Red Zone defense. If we can not allow the explosive long TDs and force them into our bend/don't break defense then it would be a mano a mano showdown of our exceptional red zone defense against what has to be a great red zone offense.
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    I couldn't agree more. The Pats are very tough to score on in the red zone. The Chargers went almost 4 games this year where they converted every red zone opportunity into a TD, scoring 20 TDs in that span.
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    Brady's going up against his own front 7? :p
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    I'm referring to the front seven that led the NFL in sacks...check your facts.
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    You can't be serious. The Pats are very stout up front. They have an excellent defensive line, but there's no way that the Pats' LBs are in the same class as the Bolts'. The Bolts have a dominating front seven that can smother the run and pressure the QB consistently. The Pats' front seven is good, but the Bolts' front seven is better.
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    Well, let's take your 53 and our 53, then add the coaching staffs of each team, mix then all up in their respective containers -- shaken, not stirred -- and we will see.

    Somehow, I'm feeling this is going to be a good game, both in its play *and* in its outcome. I like the way the Pats have been building up the past two months, "peaking at the right time", as some have put it.

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    OK. I'll give you the SD LB's are better (I really wanted to get Donnie Edwards at the beginning of the season when it looked like he was just dangling there by the acrimony with your front office). The NE DL is better.

    The NE Secondary is better and deeper. When you judge a D you have to judge the whole 11 players and the backups. Advantage Patriots.
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    It seems like everytime our team has an impossible challenge....i.e. going against a team they have no chance of beating, (like the Chargers) it seems that its when BB and the team are at thier very best.

    Ask me saturday night how I feel about this game and it might be completely different. But I have this gut feeling that BB is going to find a way to make the Chargers play differently than they want to.....
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    welcome to our board, but a sense of humor isn't a bad thing to have out here...
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    The chargers are like the Jags (at home) but with a better QB. The SD defense is good but not great. The give up 4 yards a pop running the ball and have a pass defense equivalent to the Jets (based upon QB rating). If the Pats play like they did against the Jags and Jets, this should be a competitive game.
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    Hey, the Chagers have the best RB on the planet, no doubt.

    But football is a team game.

    The stat that stands out most to me in relation to this game is this:

    SD vs. playoff teams in 2006: 1-2

    The only win was a 3 pointer AT HOME versus the Seattle Seahawks.

    Are you kidding me??????????????????????
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    Patriots pts allowed 237
    Chargers pts allowed 303

    And please don't talk to us about injuries, our D had far more injuries. Our D is better the record says so, the Chargers O is better this year, The record says so. OTOH Brady is the best playoff QB in the history of the NFL based on his 11-1 record.
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    The Chargers were 2-2 vs. Playoff teams. Get your facts straight if you're gonna try to make a point.

    Lost once to Baltimore on the road, Lost once to Chiefs on the road, beat the Chiefs in second game, and beat Seattle on the road.

    Don't start going down the "regular season schedule" path... 'cause there are plenty of patsies (no pun intended) on New England's schedule as well. ;)
    EDIT: BTW, NE was also 2-2 vs. playoff teams in the regular season
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    Sacks are one of the most highly over-rated stats in the NFL. The best way to get sacks is for the DEs to ignore contain and charge the QB every time. The second best way is to blitz a lot, even when you give up TDs when a QB lobs the ball over the head of the blitzers to open receivers.

    When was the first time an NFL team won a game 5 sacks to 3? What wins games is how many points you score and how few points you allow your opponent to score. If you want to evaluate your defense, count how many points it allowed (and how many points it scored itself) with the other team's points allowed (and scored).

    Of course, if your defense isn't nearly as good as you want to think, feel free to say things like, "Our defense is better than yours because our OLBs make more solo tackles than yours on rainy games played in the evening against teams who have an animal for a mascot in the three weeks following a bye." Just be aware that in doing so you are admitting your overall defense isn't as good as the other teams.

    Besides, all these regular season stats mean nothing comapared to playoff stats, especially the 2-12 playoff record of Chokenheimer compared to 12-2 Belichick.
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    Aww that's cute how you get so defensive. I thought people in SD were all happy go lucky? Guess someone pissed in your low fat double mocha latte this morning.
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    The Chargers have been peaking at the right time for the last three months. They are 10-0 since their last loss in October.

    I think this is going to be a tough game, but anyone who thinks the Pats front seven is better than the Chargers is on crack.
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    No, really, it's not. The Pats' D Line might be the equal of the Bolts, but they certainly aren't better. Jamal Williams is the best NT in the game, and Luis Castillo is every bit as good as Richard Seymour. The Bolts' linebackers are vastly superior.

    As far as the secondary goes, there's no question with Rodney out that the Bolts are better. Jammer, Florence and Cromartie are better than Samuel, Hobbs and Mickens. Hawkins and Sanders are pretty pedestrian at safety. McCree is better than both those guys. Kiel a liability in coverage, but not any more than Sanders or Hawkins.
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    Well, if that's the case, then the SD defensive backfield must be markedly inferior to the Pats', given the big disparity in points allowed!
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    What is your explanation for your unbelievably talented (hyped?) D giving up more points than the Jets? 303 vs 295.
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    The Chargers have had numerous injuries to key personnel and a 4 game suspension to overcome. That has affected their performance at times. But when you look at how they've performed when healthy (like they are now), they have been dominant. In the games where we've had all 11 on defense healthy (like we do now) the Bolts have given up an average of 10 points per game.

    Further, alot of the points we have given up in the last half of the season were in garbage time. If you look at how we played when the game was close, you'll see that our defense has been great.

    In our last 5 games, since Merriman returned, the Chargers have given up an average of 2.6 points in the first half.

    In the First Half:
    The Bills scored 0 against us.

    The Broncos scored 3.

    The Chiefs scored 3.

    The Seahawks scored 0.

    And the Cardinals scored 7.

    In those games, we broke out to leads of:

    17-0

    28-3

    14-3

    10-0

    and 27-7.
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    Ummmmmmmm, you are kidding, RIGHT.

    Dude, we appreciate homers sticking up for "their" boys, but please, just be REASONABLE about it. At least a little. :rolleyes:

    Your LB's are better, by a SHADE. Then stop. It's easy to say you have a great "D" when you have a great offense. You're D gives up WAAAAAAAAY to many points......... and in the end, thats that stat that counts THE MOST.

    The Pats will score on you, and quite a bit (I'd say at least 30). The REAL question is how much our defense will limit your offense. That is what the outcome of this game will rest on.
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    There is no way the Pats will score 30 on us. That's just a joke.

    What did I say that was unreasonable?
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    Classic. Luckily the Patriots haven't had any injuries to anyone, right? Idiot. Yea, we feel real bad that your juiced up anabolic addict LB got suspended. Thats a great excuse.
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    I'm sorry, you lost me at the very beginning of that post.

    Q: Do you know whom you are addressing here?

    A: The fans of the team that won back to back SB's in 2003-2004 when said team LED THE LEAGUE each year in starter games lost to injury.

    Please don't feed us that pastel, pansy excuse.

    Look at what the Pats have has as a WR corps all year long. No excuses, Sunny Delight.
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