Jacky Roberts
2nd Team Getting Their First Start
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Not much, Brandon's extension was on the cheap, it was variable based on starting time, but not expensive by any means.Jacky Roberts said:I assume that means the Pats have even more salary cap space now?
Yeah, we gain about $450K if I'm reading Miguel's page right (add lose $133K next year).Box_O_Rocks said:Not much, Brandon's extension was on the cheap, it was variable based on starting time, but not expensive by any means.
That was said to be a conditional 7th (7th or nothing).GraftonPatsFan said:To put this into the proper context, What did the pats get from the Browns for Tucker in the way of compensation?
BelichickFan said:Yeah, we gain about $450K if I'm reading Miguel's page right (add lose $133K next year).
BelichickFan said:That was said to be a conditional 7th (7th or nothing).
Oh, I thought trades and cuts had the same salary cap implications so I was going by the columns for after 6/1/06. Obviously I could be wrong though.DaBruinz said:You are reading it wrong. When a player is traded, any remaining signing bonus amortization is immediately accelerated into the current year. There is no carrying it over to the next year.
POSTED 10:39 a.m. EDT; LAST UPDATED 1:10 p.m. EDT, June 7, 2006NEW POST-JUNE 1 RULE CONFIRMED
On Tuesday, we cited a league source for the proposition that the recent trade of 2003 first-day draft busts between the Saints and Pats would not trigger the acceleration of any bonus amounts that otherwise would have been allocated to future league years. The former rule requiring full acceleration of all unallocated bonus money, per the source, has been revised to permit trades occurring after June 1 to be treated in the same manner as contract terminations occurring after June 1.
NFL spokesman Greg Aiello has confirmed that the rule has changed. "The new rule is in effect," Aiello wrote in a Wednesday morning e-mail. "If the trade occurs after June 1, the assigning club's signing bonus acceleration (if any) is postponed until the first day of the 2007 league year. The club would continue to bear the cap charge for the current year's prorated signing bonus (this is not considered acceleration) plus any amounts that have already been earned under the 2006 contract."
For example, if a player signed in 2005 a four-year deal with a $4 million signing bonus, a trade of that player after June 1, 2006 would result in a $1 million cap charge for 2006 and a $2 million cap charge in 2007. Under the old rule, a trade occurring at any time in 2006 would have resulted in a $3 million cap hit in 2006.
Just how obscure is this new rule? The guys who get paid by the NFL to write about the sport don't even know about it.
In an item posted by Pat Kirwan of NFL.com on June 6 regarding the Pats-Saints trade, Kirwan states that "[t]rades are considered the same as a termination before June 1, so the Patriots must absorb the remaining bonus now."
Should the guys who get paid by the NFL to write about the sport know about this tweak to the rules? That's a call that the folks who sign the checks need to make.
DaBruinz said:We're more than 2 up on draft picks. The Pats will be getting 4 comp picks for next year as well.
By my counts, that gives the Pats 13 draft picks for next year.
I would love the Pats to trade Branch to someone like the Eagles, Seahawks, Lions or Bears. In fact, If the Pats traded Branch for Muhammed, I'd be very happy.
Heck, maybe the Pats can trade Branch for Santana Moss. I think that Moss would be great to have on the Pats.....
Brady'sButtBoy said:In BB we trust, but he hardly hosed the Cardinals on this one. Look at it this way - how much better is Ashworth? He went and got a multi-million dollar deal from the Seahawks, he's got to be worth much more than a 7th to sign that kind of deal and he's maybe a smidge better than Gorin. This trade wasn't some of the Patriot's best work no matter how you slice it up.
pats1 said:Belichick fan is correct.
Remember the Bethel/Sullivan trade?
http://www.profootballtalk.com/6-1-06through6-15-06.htm
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Amnorix said:I think this is a VERY strong sign that Light is healthy, O'Callaghan is performing well, and Kaczur is close to returning.
PromisedLand said:This probably also means Kascar is close to returning.
patchick said:Gorin's been repeatedly referred to as a "starter," but that's totally misleading. To the best of my knowledge he's never been better than fourth on the OT depth chart except for injuries:
BelichickFan said:The fact that Belichick and Dante have obvious confidence in the young guys is more exciting to me than what we're getting in the trade. The pick is fine but knowing that they like O'Callaghan, likely Britt and that Kaczur could be on his way back is way better.
DaBruinz said:We're more than 2 up on draft picks. The Pats will be getting 4 comp picks for next year as well.
By my counts, that gives the Pats 13 draft picks for next year.
I would love the Pats to trade Branch to someone like the Eagles, Seahawks, Lions or Bears. In fact, If the Pats traded Branch for Muhammed, I'd be very happy.
Heck, maybe the Pats can trade Branch for Santana Moss. I think that Moss would be great to have on the Pats.....
Oswlek said:I'm trying to figure out where the 4 comp picks are coming from, because I can't make it balance that way:
Vinatieri - Certainly
Givens - Definitely
Ashworth - Probable
McGinest - No, he was released, not an UFA
Anyone else will be offset by the signings of Caldwell, Warfield (if he makes the cut) and Seau. Seau may in fact cancel out Ashworth from the picture, although I think the difference in contract sizes will lead to a 6th or 7th rounder anyway.
Am I missing something?
Edited to add that the premise is still true. Even with only two comp picks, as long as Gorin and Tucker fetch something that will give NE 4 extra day two picks. Givens may even lead to an extra 3rd. This team always finds a way to position itself to be in the driver's seat come draft day.
Oswlek said:I'm trying to figure out where the 4 comp picks are coming from, because I can't make it balance that way:
Vinatieri - Certainly
Givens - Definitely
Ashworth - Probable
McGinest - No, he was released, not an UFA
Anyone else will be offset by the signings of Caldwell, Warfield (if he makes the cut) and Seau. Seau may in fact cancel out Ashworth from the picture, although I think the difference in contract sizes will lead to a 6th or 7th rounder anyway.
Am I missing something?
Edited to add that the premise is still true. Even with only two comp picks, as long as Gorin and Tucker fetch something that will give NE 4 extra day two picks. Givens may even lead to an extra 3rd. This team always finds a way to position itself to be in the driver's seat come draft day.