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  1. SVN

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    answers it neatly in his mailbag

    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extras/askreiss/02_12_08/?page=3

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    He and Shalise Manza Young are among the best beat writers, period. We're lucky to have them. They almost make up for all the cr*p we have to put up with from the Felgers and Tomases of the Boston media world. (smyoung--if you read this, no offense--it's just that "teh haters" have been around so long that you haven't had enough time to set things right :) )
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    Nice piece you pasted. I just want to emphasize one part of Reiss' response, and how true it is.
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    Let's not forget the media's agenda to make the Pat's hated. Again born of jealousy, the ex players and coachs who either lost to us or can't get any access to us, really spin every thing against us and leave out any good we actualy do. So the general public learns to hate us because of their messenger.
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    I think the only local media members who don't hate the patriots are
    1. The big show (weei)
    2. The Channel 5 & patriots.com saturday morning patriots all access ppl (reiss included).
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    one thing which confuses me-maybe BB wants it that way -that BB has so many well wishers like jim brown and bill russell and all .no one really comes to his defense when he is being thrown around like a rag doll. Not saying they should but you would expect someone to stand up and ask the media to shut it. I guess BB doesnt like other people talk about him either as i gathered from some other articles.
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    This will continue as long as we continue to read their agenda driven crap and give them our money. It's up to us fans to make a statement and let some of these bastards know that this is not the type of reporting that we want.
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    a key sign of a ridiculously hopeless homer is "thinks the majority of the BOSTON media hates this team".

    you would probably prefer every article about the team to read "ZOMG PATS RULEZZZZZZZ!!!!!1111"
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    Um, no. I think most of us here would settle for objectivity, rather than the constant "OMG we iz doomed" mentality that seems to be far more pervasive than it should.
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    that attitude is pervasive on this forum. I don't see it in the local media nearly as much as with posters here who want to blow up the team.

    if you took 100 people from outside New England and had them read the Globe and Herald and listen to local airwaves, I guarantee almost none of them would think that the local media 'HATES' the Pats.
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    #87 Jersey

    Fans of a sport will find reasons to hate success ... the way it is. Doesn't bother me one bit ... kind of flattering.
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    Posters here develop that attitude because of a pervasively hyper critical local media.

    Hate might be too harsh a term. Although some of them have issues with BB that border it. Thing is they are largly hyper-critical. As Bruce Allen stated in his piece on the subject last week, there was a non stop litanny from FA on last season, from baby Brady to Randy is a dog to Morris is a jag to Welker cost too much to Rodney let the free world down - they seemed almost gleeful when Bill got a dime dropped on him via the NYJ. Then they climbed on the classless bandwaggon as we ran up the score, and the they aren't dominant enough to be great bandwaggon when we stopped running up the score. They singled out players like Maroney and Hobbs, and picked at them like scabs they hoped would bleed. Even as the team continued on an unprecedented, undefeated run. And it wasn't just the Felgers, guys at PFW are as guilty as anyone in this town of biting the hand that (in their case literally) feeds them.

    I've never quite come to terms with why the Kraft's allow that to continue. It's bad enough when the local mediots use negativity to elevate their profile at your teams expense. But when you pay guys to do that for you under your organizational umbrella, be it the pre game crew or the PFW crew, that just makes no business sense. Negativity may fuel ratings, but if that comes at the expense of undercutting your brand it's a very short sighted strategy.
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    Okay Mr. Smartypants. Now that you guarantee it, prove it.
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    To go back to the original point of this thread, I have to say Reiss' stuff is really sort of a comfort to read. He writes exactly the way a beat writer for a team should--with a sense of affection for the team, knowledge and familiarity about the team, and no BS. Just, here's what I've seen, here's what I've heard, etc. It's an oasis of solid, steady reporting.
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    yeah, it's really a shame that kind of stuff doesn't get your name mentioned as much as the axe grinding stuff.
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    I can't even imagine the Chicago Trib/ Sun-times coming out negatively, against a local team, with an "anonymous source" the day or two before the biggest game in franchise history for the bears/bulls/cubs/sox, doesn't matter what team. There's NO WAY that would have happened...I don't read the Boston newspapers so much except when something is posted here but from what I've seen I've been turned off. I just see a lot of patriots vs the red sox, whose more popular? (who really cares?) and in the herald, well we know what the whole blog before the game did for us fans...I don't have enough instances to make a foregone conclusion but as an outsider lookin in, not all articles are bad but there are some pretty surprising negative tendencies with the boston media
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    By the way I always enjoy reading Reiss' pieces. His opinions stay neutral yet are always insightful. To the OP, thanks for posting the link!
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    It is a shame, but I like the fact that Reiss appears on NFLN quite a bit as their local source (Point After show, etc).
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    Yet another reason to be thankful for this forum.
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    I know that I'm not 100 people, but I am one that lives outside New England (I live in Pittsburgh). If you compare the Pittsburgh coverage of thier teams to the Boston coverage of thiers, it's a down right love fest here compared to what you get in Boston. No they don't worship every move that every team makes, but they also don't attempt to tear them down at every turn (as Tomase did).

    Someone keep track of how many "out of towners" disagree with makewayhomer.
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    Are you seriously attempting to compare Watergate, where all kinds of laws were broken, to Taping coaches signals from the sidelines, where a minor camera placement rule (not law) was broken? Really?
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    I live in Atlanta, and even during the whole Michael Vick dogfighting case, the local press was at the worst, objective. They also range from objective to positive towards our other sports teams, especially the Braves. I can't imagine anyone at Atlanta Journal Constitution doing what Tomase did two days before the Superbowl.
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    I think the national media has more of a love-fest for the pats. They were constantly praising them all year. NFL live, Mike and Mike, Fox, CBS, you name it they praised.
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    that may be the most appropriate name I've ever seen.....wait.......this post is satire, isn't it?
    almost had me there.
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    Really? You must not have been watching ESPN on Superbowl weekend. I have never seen a worse lack of objectivity (Sean Salisbury excluded)
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    As well they should have been praised, Dog. What team that went 17-0 and had a chance to go 18-0 hasn't been praised? Oh, wait....that was the first time that happened since television was invented! :D
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    Tomase is 1 guy who did 1 thing. there are many, many other media members here who have done nothing of the sort.

    what is silly is the notion that most media people here HATE the Pats. people on this board just take every little single negative thing said about the Pats and assume the person that said it is a hater, no matter how many good things they have said in the past. "Oh, did Bob Ryan say 1 mean thing about 1 player? HATER!!!"

    a good example is Peter King - a couple months ago there was a thread which was all over him for something he said. This, despite the fact that his columns are usually overflowing with praise for the Pats and for Brady. I for one want no part of journalists that never ever say anything bad about an organization.
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    Huh?

    What?

    Tomase "is one guy who did one thing"? Uhhhh Dude, he threw the team under the bus 48 hours before the SB with a bogus story!

    "Uhhh except for my 40 lb cancerous tumor, I'm completely healthy!"

    I give you credit. You certainly have no fear when it comes to looking like a moron.
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