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Hmm? Snyder has owned that team since '99, the stadium isn't new either. The same ****ty group of people are running the Rams as when they were in STL.The common thread is that when WSH went for RG3 they also had a relatively new billionaire owner and a relatively new stadium and a so a paniced front office with a dire need to make a splash to keep their jobs.
Hmm? Snyder has owned that team since '99, the stadium isn't new either. The same ****ty group of people are running the Rams as when they were in STL.
But nobody is arguing that either of them is the big name of Luck, Newton, or even Winston/Mariota, nor is either of them even really a sure thing starter this season. Certainly not Wentz.
Yeah, I was addressing mainly the aspect of commercializing the guy right out of the gate as the face of their newly returned team. Even Goff being from Cal doesn't have quite the same cache as if they were drafting a guy from, say, USC to be the new starting QB.Maybe not name, but Mayock is saying that Wentz has Brady/Luck upside. Cossell says that Wentz is better than Mariota/Winston. There's a lot of love out there for him.
I haven't really watched him so can't speak to that myself. Just passing on info.
Case Keenum and Nick Foles help make that argument pretty darn compelling. How do you sell those two guys to a new market? Much easier to engage the audience by offering them the first pick in the draft, yada yada. So many here are so convinced that draft position/ranking matters so much (see the Easley thread for proof). They'd rather have a team of mediocre players with high draft ranks that stick around for a long time than have some genuine talents. Given this, it shouldn't be hard to sell the LA crowd on that shiny new quarterback, at least for a year or two.I don't think either Wentz or Goff is a big enough STAR to make the "need a marquee name" argument very compelling here.
That's true. I was thinking about them trying to have a good football team and did overlook that there will certainly be morons that need a jersey to buy.Case Keenum and Nick Foles help make that argument pretty darn compelling. How do you sell those two guys to a new market? Much easier to engage the audience by offering them the first pick in the draft, yada yada. So many here are so convinced that draft position/ranking matters so much (see the Easley thread for proof). They'd rather have a team of mediocre players with high draft ranks that stick around for a long time than have some genuine talents. Given this, it shouldn't be hard to sell the LA crowd on that shiny new quarterback, at least for a year or two.
Lets see few years ago WSH gave STL 7 picks for a QB... the outcome... RGIII will be a PS guy in 2 years.. Now STL is doing the same.. I just dont get it..
You are right in the competitive side of things, but i don't think you are truly thinking about the "Marketing" standpoint. The LA Rams will need, more than anything else right now, to sell tickets. It is better to have an exciting commodity, even if uncertain, now and generate momentum and enthusiasm than to slowly build a team for the future. That's why i don't dislike the trade. If any established franchise did it, i would hate it.
Sources close to the situation tell me the New York Jets made a serious offer to the Tennessee Titans for the initial pick of the draft. Those with knowledge of the situation tell me the team was close to getting the deal done.
I’m told it is believed veteran defensive lineman Muhammad Wilkerson was part of the deal.
And while many in the New York area dismissed my initial report earlier this week over the New York Jets being dark horses for trading to the top of the draft, it was revealed within 24 hours of the report that Jared Goff would be making an official visit to the franchise. Goff won’t be make it past the fourth pick of the draft.
Will the Jets continue to attempt to move up into the early reaches of round one? Sources tell me they believe so but much depends on who the Los Angeles Rams ultimately select with the first pick in two weeks time.
Case Keenum and Nick Foles help make that argument pretty darn compelling. How do you sell those two guys to a new market? Much easier to engage the audience by offering them the first pick in the draft, yada yada. So many here are so convinced that draft position/ranking matters so much (see the Easley thread for proof). They'd rather have a team of mediocre players with high draft ranks that stick around for a long time than have some genuine talents. Given this, it shouldn't be hard to sell the LA crowd on that shiny new quarterback, at least for a year or two.
Yeah I think most teams would be too risk averse to even make the deal. So I respect their balls while also thinking they're stupid, because QB is the most important position but that doesn't mean you can shoehorn in whatever guy is the top prospect at the expense of other spots on the roster. And that IS what they're doing, unless they're totally kidding about "wanting two weeks to debate between which guy it is." When you give up that much for the pick, I kinda think you should know. Be willing to have your head turned if something unexpected comes up (like if the QB that seems like such a great guy tea-bagged a female trainer or something) but giving up that much just to have the #1 pick when they've done a decent job building their team back up from nothing seems dumb. Debating between Winston/Mariota, Manning/Leaf, Luck/Griffin when you already have the #1 pick is different than Ditka-ing your draft for it....and then doing your homework.Wow, this is one of those rare trades that is bad for the rest of the league. The Titans are getting a huge advantage due to the idiocy of the Rams general manager.
When you combine the draft years for a first, fourth, and sixth round pick they are getting two firsts, two seconds, and two thirds. Not to mention that the value of the 2017 first round pick will be determined by the success or failure of a team starting a rookie QB (more likely to be a failure than success). The haul of picks that the Titans are getting is enough to overhaul any team. Although I suppose the Jets didn't exactly become a dynasty when they had four first round picks one year.
They even had a young Belichick as their coach for a while. Too bad for them that he needed a bit more maturing before he became a force.
Side note: watched that 30 for 30 about the Orlando Magic last night and had forgotten that in addition to Penny Hardaway they got 3 first-round picks in exchange for Webber too.
Plus! '96 (traded along with Scott Skiles salary dump to Washington), '98 (Keon Clark?), '00 (looks like traded for some other pick, got annoyed trying to track)I thought it was 3 picks including the one used on Penny.