Practice 8-30-16

[RobertWeathers]

This has to be it. Anything else would qualify as a shocker IMO.

Cutting Sunseri, Bryce Williams or Hamilton would be a shocker?

 

[Deus Irae]

Cutting Sunseri, Bryce Williams or Hamilton would be a shocker?

They were, apparently, at practice

 

[AtomicDawg]

Cutting Sunseri, Bryce Williams or Hamilton would be a shocker?

Oh, I forgot about those. I just wrote them all off automatically, lol

 

[RobertWeathers]

They were, apparently, at practice

Was Rex Ryan there?

 

[Deus Irae]

The Patriots have released Ramon Humber, Keavon Milton and Steven Scheu. Sebastian Vollmer and Dion Lewis placed on PUP. Roster now at 75.

So, if the tweet has it right, Vollmer's not on IR, at least yet.

 

[supafly]

So, if the tweet has it right, Vollmer's not on IR, at least yet.

Still hope for Danny A.

 

[Mack Herron]

So, if the tweet has it right, Vollmer's not on IR, at least yet.

Placed on PUP. Theoretical return possible after 6 weeks (along with Lewis).

 

[Deus Irae]

Placed on PUP. Theoretical return possible after 6 weeks (along with Lewis).

Yes, that's what the tweet says. It's different than the IR designation that was being tossed about earlier by other reporters, which I find interesting.

 

[Mack Herron]

Yes, that's what the tweet says. It's different than the IR designation that was being tossed about earlier by other reporters, which I find interesting.

Now I am seeing others report IR which would be season ending. Just have to let the smoke clear.

Waddle it is.

 

[supafly]

Now I am seeing others report IR which would be season ending. Just have to let the smoke clear.

The IR-return designation has changed a bit, in the sense that you no longer need to name the player ahead of time. Perhaps this could be the case for Vollmer if he is placed on IR.

 

[Mack Herron]

The IR-return designation has changed a bit, in the sense that you no longer need to name the player ahead of time. Perhaps this could be the case for Vollmer if he is placed on IR.

That would only be possible if first placed on the 53. But if he is on PUP, it is moot because he theoretically could return (although it isn't sounding likely).

 

[supafly]

That would only be possible if first placed on the 53. But if he is on PUP, it is moot because he theoretically could return (although it isn't sounding likely).

Right, right. No need to use IR, really, since reserve PUP could take you up to week 11 (IIRC).

 

[patfanken]

That would only be possible if first placed on the 53. But if he is on PUP, it is moot because he theoretically could return (although it isn't sounding likely).

I'll believe he isn't coming back when someone reports that his locker has been cleaned out and he's gone home. THEN I'll accept he isn't coming back at some point.

My belief is that if he does have a hip condition that just recently surfaced, it's more a matter of pain control. Maybe they will keep him off the field for most of the season and get him ready to play, say the last 4-6 games and the playoffs, and manage his pain for a short season. That way the Pats can send him off to retirement in style.

 

[Mack Herron]

Right, right. No need to use IR, really, since reserve PUP could take you up to week 11 (IIRC).

Note to self: Doug Moore was wrong twice about Vollmer.

 

[AtomicDawg]

Note to self: Doug Moore was wrong twice about Vollmer.

Seems like a trend with that guy. He should just stick to fantasy football. Leave the reporting to the actual reporters.

 

[Ring 6]

So, if the tweet has it right, Vollmer's not on IR, at least yet.

No reason to put him on IR when he is PUP eligible. Unfortunately that doesn't give us insight into the chance he could come back mid season though.

 

[Deus Irae]

No reason to put him on IR when he is PUP eligible. Unfortunately that doesn't give us insight into the chance he could come back mid season though.

Unless I've missed something about the new rule, there's no reason not to, if he's definitely going to be gone for more than the 9 weeks alloted for a PUP guy, either.

 

[Ring 6]

Unless I've missed something about the new rule, there's no reason not to, if he's definitely going to be gone for more than the 9 weeks alloted for a PUP guy, either.

Sure there is.
You get one IR player that can be activated.
Everyone on PUP can be.

So if you put a PUP eligible player on IR then he returns you wasted the only returnable IR spot.

If he can't come back all season it's moot but assuming there is a chance PUP would be the smarter way to go.

 

[Deus Irae]

Sure there is.
You get one IR player that can be activated.
Everyone on PUP can be.

So if you put a PUP eligible player on IR then he returns you wasted the only returnable IR spot.

If he can't come back all season it's moot but assuming there is a chance PUP would be the smarter way to go.

What I posted:

Unless I've missed something about the new rule, there's no reason not to, if he's definitely going to be gone for more than the 9 weeks alloted for a PUP guy, either.

So either you didn't actually read what I'd posted, or you're looking for a fight. If it's the former, I've bolded the relevant part. If it's the latter, I'm not obliging.

Have a good evening.

 

[Mike the Brit]

Unless I've missed something about the new rule, there's no reason not to, if he's definitely going to be gone for more than the 9 weeks alloted for a PUP guy, either.

According to Wikipedia (yes, I know) the maximum time would be 6 + 5 + 3 weeks:

A player who finishes the preseason still on the PUP list can then be placed on the regular-season PUP list. Such players must sit out the first six weeks of the regular season. At that point, teams have a five-week window in which to allow the player to begin practicing; from the day the player begins practicing, teams have an additional 21-day window in which to decide whether to activate the player to the 53-man roster. If either of those deadlines pass, the player must remain on the PUP list for the remainder of the season.

Physically unable to perform - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia​