Pats Picker 2013

[mgteich]

Hooman is an OK backup at TE and is also our fullback. That was enough to make the team last year. It should be enough this year, unless Belichick chooses to keep a dedicated fullback.

Why? Neither of them are any good.

 

[JackBauer]

Hooman is an OK backup at TE and is also our fullback. That was enough to make the team last year. It should be enough this year, unless Belichick chooses to keep a dedicated fullback.

Honestly I think Gronk, Sudfeld, Ballard, and Fells represent the optimal depth chart at TE. We'll see.

 

[Big-T]

QB (2) Brady, Mallett
RB (6) Ridley, Vereen, Blount, Winn, Washington, Develin
WR (7) Amendola, Dobson, Thompkins, Boyce, Edelman, Slater, Sims
TE (3) Gronkowski, Sudfeld, Ballard
C (2) Wendell, Stankiewitch
G (3) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon
T (3) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek
DE (5) Ninkovich, Jones, Francis, Buchanan, Bequette
DT (4) Wilfork, Kelly, Forston, Vellano
ILB(3) Spikes, Fletcher, Beauharnais
OLB(3) Mayo, Hightower, Collins
CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Ryan, Cole
SS (2) Wilson, Harmon
FS (2) McCourty, Gregory
ST (3) Gostkowski, Mesko, Aiken

Total players: 53
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- Bit light on the OL in terms of numbers but Cannon, Connolly & Svitek all play multiple positions along the line.

- Winn & Sims played themselves into a roster spots last night, Sims also contributed on STs as well as Offense.

- Washington stays for kick returning alone, unless something else shows they can do the job well.

- Adrian Wilson, time to give #24 back to Arrington, buddy, you bought the Diapers for a loan of the jersey.

- Develin is a better blocker than Hooman so can be the teams FB/TE.

 

[PP2]

QB (2) Brady, Mallett
RB (5) Ridley, Vereen, Bolden, Blount, Washington
WR (6) Amendola, Dobson, Edelman, Slater, Boyce, Thompkins
TE (4) Ballard, Sudfeld, Fells, Gronkowski
C (1) Wendell
G (3) Connolly, Cannon, Mankins
T (3) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek
DE (5) Ninkovich, Cunningham, Buchanan, Francis, Jones
DT (4) Wilfork, Forston, Vellano, Kelly
ILB(3) Spikes, Tarpinian, Fletcher
OLB(4) Mayo, Collins, Rivera, Hightower
CB (5) Talib, Arrington, Ryan, Cole, Dennard
SS (2) Ebner, Wilson
FS (3) Gregory, Harmon, McCourty
ST (3) Gostkowski, Aiken, Mesko

With Francis being displaced by Armstrong once he clears PUP.
Only one center because we know Connolly can swing over in case of injury.

 

[goheels22002]

Sure, but we will keep 4 DT's, even if the player comes from another team, or comes next week. So, I keep 2 DT's.

I think that either Hooman or Devlin make this team. My choice is Hooman (over Fells).

Finally, I gave in and kept Bolden.

I did not keep either Beauharnais or Ebner. Of course, you may very well be right; but for Beauharnais in a Practice Squad player.

Interesting that you keep Bequette who looks lost out there and slow to react. Ebner seems more versatile to me on ST and as a third safety in a big dime package. I also kept Beauharnais and thought he looked good against the Giants.

 

[jmt57]

Surprised so many people are keeping Francis.

I think it is by default, considering the alternatives.

 

[captain stone]

QB (2) Brady, Mallett
RB (5) Ridley, Vereen, Washington, Blount, Winn
WR (5) Amendola, Dobson, Boyce, Edelman, Thompkins
TE (4) Ballard, Sudfeld, Fells, David Thomas
C (1) Wendell
G (3) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon
T (3) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek
DE (5) Ninkovich, Jones, Francis, Benard, Buchanan
DT (3) Wilfork, Kelly, Forston
ILB(3) Spikes, Fletcher, Beauharnais
OLB(3) Mayo, Hightower, Collins
CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Dowling, Ryan
SS (3) Wilson, Wilson, Slater
FS (3) McCourty, Gregory, Harmon
ST (3) Gostkowski, Aiken, Mesko

Total players: 51
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Glad this thread was bumped; and though I've made changes, I'll likely make more of them one week from now.

Tebow's "performance" last week, and his non-use at any other position, removes him from the roster.

Blount's been more impressive than Bolden, and Winn could replace Bolden on STs/FB.

David Thomas replaces Dallas Clark on my Move TE #2 wish list; I'll keep Gronk on PUP for now.

Thompkins replaces Jenkins at WR; still would like to see a vet with size here too.

I could in good faith place only 7 OLmen on the roster (the rest suck), so I've saved a spot for
a yet-to-be-named vet C/G (perhaps a healthy Nick McDonald, though I'd rather someone better).

I've also saved a spot for a vet DT, because having both Forston & Grissom is redundant;
Edit: Armstead to PUP/NFI.

Benard's been playing a lot of snaps, Bill likes Francis, and Buchanan wouldn't clear waivers.
Cunnyham to IR and Bequette to PS.

LBs are a no-brainer: Koutou, Rivera & Tarp suck, and Beauharnais wouldn't clear waivers.

Glas-IR stays for now, and Dennard's still not in jail yet.

Neither TWilson nor Harmon has played well enough to remove Gregory, so sadly all 3 stay.
Edit: Ebner is IRed, or waived if he is PS-eligible.

And Mesko has out-played Allen, or Allen has under-played Mesko.

Final hours before Cut-Down Day:

QB (2) Brady, Mallett
RB (5) Ridley, Vereen, Washington, Blount, Winn
WR (5) Amendola, Dobson, Boyce, Edelman, Thompkins
TE (4) Sudfeld, Hoomanawanui, David Thomas, Gronkowski
C (2) Wendell, Matt Tennant
G (3) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon
T (3) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek
DE (5) Jones, Ninkovich, Francis, Buchanan, Bequette
DT (4) Wilfork, Kelly, Forston, Antonio Garay
ILB(3) Spikes, Fletcher, Beauharnais
OLB(3) Mayo, Hightower, Collins
CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Ryan, Sheldon Brown
SS (3) Wilson, Wilson, Slater
FS (3) McCourty, Gregory, Harmon
ST (3) Gostkowski, Mesko, Aiken

Total players: 53
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Had Ballard & Fells not already been cut, I would've kept both instead of Gronk (PUP) & Hoohah.
We still need a #2 Move TE, so David Thomas stays too.

I know that Winn's not making the team, but I liked the way he ran Thursday night, so out of respect I'm keeping him here one last time.

We need a backup C/G real badly, and Matt Tennant is as good an option as anyone else.

We also need a backup DT real badly, so Antonio Garay fills the hole for now.

Had Benard not already been cut, I would've kept him instead of Bequette.

Except for one good play, Marquise Cole stunk at CB; Sheldon Brown or a reasonable facsimile
thereof should be added to the mix.

 

[manxman2601]

Final hours before Cut-Down Day:

QB (2) Brady, Mallett
RB (5) Ridley, Vereen, Washington, Blount, Winn
WR (5) Amendola, Dobson, Boyce, Edelman, Thompkins
TE (4) Sudfeld, Hoomanawanui, David Thomas, Gronkowski
C (2) Wendell, Matt Tennant
G (3) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon
T (3) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek
DE (5) Jones, Ninkovich, Francis, Buchanan, Bequette
DT (4) Wilfork, Kelly, Forston, Antonio Garay
ILB(3) Spikes, Fletcher, Beauharnais
OLB(3) Mayo, Hightower, Collins
CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Ryan, Sheldon Brown
SS (3) Wilson, Wilson, Slater
FS (3) McCourty, Gregory, Harmon
ST (3) Gostkowski, Mesko, Aiken

Total players: 53
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Had Ballard & Fells not already been cut, I would've kept both instead of Gronk (PUP) & Hoohah.
We still need a #2 Move TE, so David Thomas stays too.

I know that Winn's not making the team, but I liked the way he ran Thursday night, so out of respect I'm keeping him here one last time.

We need a backup C/G real badly, and Matt Tennant is as good an option as anyone else.

We also need a backup DT real badly, so Antonio Garay fills the hole for now.

Had Benard not already been cut, I would've kept him instead of Bequette.

Except for one good play, Marquise Cole stunk at CB; Sheldon Brown or a reasonable facsimile
thereof should be added to the mix.

 

[ATippett56]

QB (3) Brady, Mallett, Tebow
RB (5) Ridley, Vereen, Blount, Bolden, Washington
WR (6) Amendola, Edelman, Thompkins, Dobson, Boyce, Slater
TE (3) Gronkowski, Hoomanawanui, Sudfeld
C (2) Wendell, Tennant
G (3) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon
T (3) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek
DE (5) Ninkovich, Jones, Francis, Cunningham, Buchanan
DT (4) Wilfork, Kelly, Forston, Vellano
ILB(3) Spikes, Fletcher, Beauharnais
OLB(3) Mayo, Hightower, Collins
CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Ryan, Cole
SS (2) Wilson, Wilson
FS (3) McCourty, Gregory, Harmon
ST (3) Gostkowski, Mesko, Aiken

Total players: 53
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Most conservative approach:

Reserve/Injured
Ebner

Reserve/Non-Football Injury
Armstead
Harrison

Speed Dial
Koutouvides
Rivera

Practice Squad
Kline, Josh
McDonald, Chris
Sims, Quentin
Winn, George
Bequette, Jake
Davis, Kanorris
Tarpinian, Jeff

 

[manxman2601]

QB (3) Brady, Mallett, Tebow
RB (5) Ridley, Vereen, Blount, Bolden, Washington
WR (6) Amendola, Edelman, Thompkins, Dobson, Boyce, Slater
TE (3) Gronkowski, Hoomanawanui, Sudfeld
C (2) Wendell, Tennant
G (3) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon
T (3) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek
DE (5) Ninkovich, Jones, Francis, Cunningham, Buchanan
DT (4) Wilfork, Kelly, Forston, Vellano
ILB(3) Spikes, Fletcher, Beauharnais
OLB(3) Mayo, Hightower, Collins
CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Ryan, Cole
SS (2) Wilson, Wilson
FS (3) McCourty, Gregory, Harmon
ST (3) Gostkowski, Mesko, Aiken

Total players: 53
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Most conservative approach:

Reserve/Injured
Ebner

Reserve/Non-Football Injury
Armstead
Harrison

Speed Dial
Koutouvides
Rivera

Practice Squad
Kline, Josh
McDonald, Chris
Sims, Quentin
Winn, George
Bequette, Jake
Davis, Kanorris
Tarpinian, Jeff

Nice speculative roster. I'd personally like to see Winn over Bolden but agree with you and the Captain, he's likely headed to the PS.

One thing that does stand out from this roster projection; just how much DT will likely be a priority in the next draft.

I promise that's an end to the speculation jokes.

 

[ATippett56]

Nice speculative roster. I'd personally like to see Winn over Bolden but agree with you and the Captain, he's likely headed to the PS.

R.E.M. - It's The End Of The World - YouTube

One thing that does stand out from this roster projection; just how much DT will likely be a priority in the next draft.

CB, DT, SS

Aqib Talib will an UFA. I'm not sold on a pending 34 year old Adrian Wilson.

I promise that's an end to the speculation jokes.

Are you asking for a 1000 pounds or just 1 pound?

Monty Python - Airplane Hijack - YouTube

 

[manxman2601]

R.E.M. - It's The End Of The World - YouTube

CB, DT, SS

Aqib Talib will an UFA. I'm not sold on a pending 34 year old Adrian Wilson.

Are you asking for a 1000 pounds or just 1 pound?

Monty Python - Airplane Hijack - YouTube

Keep the Python's coming

 

[captain stone]

Final hours before Cut-Down Day:

QB (2) Brady, Mallett
RB (5) Ridley, Vereen, Washington, Blount, Winn
WR (5) Amendola, Dobson, Boyce, Edelman, Thompkins
TE (4) Sudfeld, Hoomanawanui, David Thomas, Gronkowski
C (2) Wendell, Matt Tennant
G (3) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon
T (3) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek
DE (5) Jones, Ninkovich, Francis, Buchanan, Bequette
DT (4) Wilfork, Kelly, Forston, Antonio Garay
ILB(3) Spikes, Fletcher, Beauharnais
OLB(3) Mayo, Hightower, Collins
CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Ryan, Sheldon Brown
SS (3) Wilson, Wilson, Slater
FS (3) McCourty, Gregory, Harmon
ST (3) Gostkowski, Mesko, Aiken

Total players: 53
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Had Ballard & Fells not already been cut, I would've kept both instead of Gronk (PUP) & Hoohah.
We still need a #2 Move TE, so David Thomas stays too.

I know that Winn's not making the team, but I liked the way he ran Thursday night, so out of respect I'm keeping him here one last time.

We need a backup C/G real badly, and Matt Tennant is as good an option as anyone else.

We also need a backup DT real badly, so Antonio Garay fills the hole for now.

Had Benard not already been cut, I would've kept him instead of Bequette.

Except for one good play, Marquise Cole stunk at CB; Sheldon Brown or a reasonable facsimile
thereof should be added to the mix.

I am dumbfounded that Forston was cut. Bill now has acheived Absolute Zero depth at DT.
Congratulations.

And while I was no fan of Mesko, especially considering his draft status, I still hoped that
both he & Cunnyham would be kept for one more season, so that when both left as UFAs
next year, we would be one step closer to receiving a compensatory draft pick for the first
time since 2010.

Edit: Francis now gone too. I cannot believe that the putridity of Jake Bequette (Yes I know
I had him on my final 53, but not ahead of Benard or Francis) is making this team.

 

[captain stone]

Keep the Python's coming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucgU2DJlBiw

 

[mgteich]

We have the obvious need to add an OG/C and a DT. BTW, I am not especially surprised that Belichick chose Vellano over the others. Morris should be gone by 4. I haven't seen him on any cut list.
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3 PM Roster

QB (2) Brady, Mallett
RB (6) Ridley, Vereen, Blount, Washington, Bolden, Develin
WR (6) Amendola, Thompkins, Dobson, Boyce, Edelman, Slater
TE (3) Sudfeld, Gronkowski, Hoomanawanui
C (1) Wendell
G (3) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon
T (3) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek
DE (4) Jones, Ninkovich, Bequette, Buchanan
DT (4) Wilfork, Kelly, Forston, Vellano
ILB(4) Spikes, Fletcher, Beauharnais, Tarpinian
OLB(3) Mayo, Hightower, Collins
CB (6) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Cole, Ryan, Morris
SS (3) Wilson, Wilson, Ebner
FS (3) McCourty, Gregory, Harmon
ST (2) Gostkowski, Allen

Total players: 53
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[captain stone]

Not especially surprised that Vellano was kept ahead of Forston? Really?
I'm not claiming that Forston is the best backup DT in the NFL, but still...

 

[mgteich]

Vellano actually played reasonably well with the first team in place of Wilfork. That is the test of value, not how well someone plays against scrubs.

The question is "Who Do You Trust" to start if Wilfork or Kelly is injured. Who would you want available if one of them was injured during a game. Belichick chose Vellano for Game One based on how he played this role in the preseason.

So, no.

Not especially surprised that Vellano was kept ahead of Forston? Really?
I'm not claiming that Forston is the best backup DT in the NFL, but still...