Pats Picker 2013

[patsfan-1982]

QB (3) Brady, Tebow, Mallett
RB (4) Ridley, Blount, Vereen, Washington
WR (6) Amendola, Boyce, Jones, Edelman, Dobson, Slater
TE (3) Gronkowski, Ballard, Hoomanawanui
C (2) Wendell, McDonald
G (3) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon
T (3) Solder, Vollmer, Zusevics
DE (4) Ninkovich, Jones, Francis, Bequette
DT (3) Wilfork, Kelly, Armstead
ILB(5) Mayo, Spikes, Hightower, Koutouvides, Fletcher
OLB(3) Collins, Cunningham, Edds
CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Ryan, Cole
SS (3) Wilson, Wilson, Ebner
FS (3) McCourty, Gregory, Harmon
ST (3) Gostkowski, Mesko, Aiken

Total players: 53
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[Claremonster]

QB (3) Brady, Mallett, Tebow
RB (4) Ridley, Vereen, Blount, Washington
WR (6) Amendola, Dobson, Boyce, Edelman, Harrison, Slater
TE (4) Gronkowski, Ballard, Sudfeld, Ford
C (2) Wendell, McDonald
G (3) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon
T (3) Solder, Vollmer, Zusevics
DE (4) Jones, Ninkovich, Bequette, Buchanan
DT (3) Wilfork, Kelly, Armstead
ILB(4) Mayo, Spikes, Beauharnais, Fletcher
OLB(4) Hightower, Collins, Cunningham, Benard
CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Dowling, Ryan
SS (3) Wilson, Wilson, Ebner
FS (2) McCourty, Harmon
ST (3) Gostkowski, Mesko, Aiken

Total players: 53
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[patsinthesnow]

So who's already wrong?

Jones gone

 

[BradyFTW!]

QB (3) Brady, Mallett, Tebow
RB (4) Ridley, Vereen, Washington, Bolden
WR (6) Amendola, Dobson, Boyce, Jenkins, Edelman, Slater
TE (4) Gronkowski, Ballard, Sudfeld, Hoomanawanui
C (2) Wendell, McDonald
G (3) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon
T (4) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek, Zusevics
DE (3) Ninkovich, Jones, Buchanan
DT (4) Wilfork, Kelly, Armstead, Forston
ILB(5) Mayo, Spikes, Hightower, Fletcher, Koutouvides
OLB(2) Collins, Rivera
CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Dowling, Ryan
SS (2) Wilson, Wilson
FS (3) McCourty, Gregory, Harmon
ST (3) Gostkowski, Mesko, Aiken

Total players: 53
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I fully expect that this prediction will be proven wrong within 72 hours

 

[captain stone]

QB (3) Brady, Mallett, Tebow
RB (4) Ridley, Vereen, Washington, Winn
WR (5) Amendola, Dobson, Edelman, Boyce, Jenkins
TE (4) Ballard, Fells, Dallas Clark, Sudfeld
C (2) Wendell, McDonald
G (3) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon
T (4) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek, Haslam
DE (4) Ninkovich, Jones, Bequette, Buchanan
DT (4) Wilfork, Kelly, Armstead, Forston
ILB(3) Mayo, Spikes, Beauharnais
OLB(4) Hightower, Collins, Fletcher, Edds
CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Dowling, Ryan
SS (2) Wilson, Ebner
FS (3) McCourty, Harmon, Wilson
ST (3) Gostkowski, Aiken, Mesko

Total players: 53
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- How about Tebow as a future SS? College QB to NFL Safety is not unprecedented.

- Winn over both Blount & Bolden; time to give blocking & character a chance.

- Donald Jones would have replaced Jenkins had he not been released.

- Gronk to PUP, and Dallas Clark to Pats makes too much sense not to happen.

- Bequette's & Buchanan's upsides are greater than those of Cunnyham, Francis, Bernard or Vega,
but may the best 2 win anyway.

- AJ Edds is, as of now, our best coverage LB.

- If the overdrafted Wilson & Harmon show anything at all, then the overpaid & undertackling Gregory
becomes superfluous.

 

[Sciz]

QB (3) Brady, Mallett, Tebow
RB (4) Ridley, Vereen, Washington, Winn
WR (5) Amendola, Dobson, Edelman, Boyce, Jenkins
TE (4) Ballard, Fells, Dallas Clark, Sudfeld
C (2) Wendell, McDonald
G (3) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon
T (4) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek, Haslam
DE (4) Ninkovich, Jones, Bequette, Buchanan
DT (4) Wilfork, Kelly, Armstead, Forston
ILB(3) Mayo, Spikes, Beauharnais
OLB(4) Hightower, Collins, Fletcher, Edds
CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Dowling, Ryan
SS (2) Wilson, Ebner
FS (3) McCourty, Harmon, Wilson
ST (3) Gostkowski, Aiken, Mesko

Total players: 53

You just cut a captain and Pro Bowler.

 

[manxman2601]

QB (3) Brady, Mallett, Tebow
RB (4) Ridley, Vereen, Washington, Winn
WR (6) Amendola, Dobson, Boyce, Jenkins, Edelman, Slater
TE (4) Gronkowski, Ballard, Hoomanawanui, Sudfeld
C (2) Wendell, McDonald
G (3) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon
T (3) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek
DE (4) Ninkovich, Jones, Buchanan, Francis
DT (4) Wilfork, Kelly, Armstead, Grissom
ILB(3) Spikes, Fletcher, Beauharnais
OLB(3) Mayo, Hightower, Collins
CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Dowling, Ryan
SS (3) Wilson, Wilson, Ebner
FS (3) McCourty, Gregory, Harmon
ST (3) Gostkowski, Aiken, Mesko

Total players: 53
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Hopefully I haven't forgotten anyone too obvious.

 

[manxman2601]

QB (3) Brady, Mallett, Tebow
RB (4) Ridley, Vereen, Washington, Winn
WR (5) Amendola, Dobson, Edelman, Boyce, Jenkins
TE (4) Ballard, Fells, Dallas Clark, Sudfeld
C (2) Wendell, McDonald
G (3) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon
T (4) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek, Haslam
DE (4) Ninkovich, Jones, Bequette, Buchanan
DT (4) Wilfork, Kelly, Armstead, Forston
ILB(3) Mayo, Spikes, Beauharnais
OLB(4) Hightower, Collins, Fletcher, Edds
CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Dowling, Ryan
SS (2) Wilson, Ebner
FS (3) McCourty, Harmon, Wilson
ST (3) Gostkowski, Aiken, Mesko

Total players: 53
Created with Pats Picker: Pats Picker 2013

- How about Tebow as a future SS? College QB to NFL Safety is not unprecedented.

- Winn over both Blount & Bolden; time to give blocking & character a chance.

- Donald Jones would have replaced Jenkins had he not been released.

- Gronk to PUP, and Dallas Clark to Pats makes too much sense not to happen.

- Bequette's & Buchanan's upsides are greater than those of Cunnyham, Francis, Bernard or Vega,
but may the best 2 win anyway.

- AJ Edds is, as of now, our best coverage LB.

- If the overdrafted Wilson & Harmon show anything at all, then the overpaid & undertackling Gregory
becomes superfluous.

You and I are alone on the George Winn train. Nice.

 

[MTM558]

QB (3) Brady, Mallett, Tebow
RB (4) Bolden, Ridley, Vereen, Washington
WR (6) Amendola, Boyce, Dobson, Edelman, Jenkins, Slater
TE (4) Ballard, Fells, Ford, Sudfeld
C (2) McDonald, Wendell
G (3) Cannon, Connolly, Mankins
T (3) Solder, Svitek, Vollmer
DE (6) Benard, Bequette, Buchanan, Francis, Jones, Ninkovich
DT (4) Armstead, Forston, Kelly, Wilfork
ILB(3) Fletcher, Koutouvides, Spikes
OLB(3) Collins, Hightower, Mayo
CB (5) Arrington, Dennard, Dowling, Ryan, Talib
SS (2) Wilson, Wilson
FS (2) Harmon, McCourty
ST (3) Aiken, Gostkowski, Mesko

Similar to my last projection. 8 OL are kept because of positional versatility from the likes of Cannon, Connolly, McDonald... 6 DE may seem heavy, but someone like Francis could work as a sub DT, like Cunningham did last year... Gregory was a tough cut, as he is a veteran, but with A. Wilson in tow, and Gregory's marginal ST value, he was released.

At Tight End, Ballard and Fells could form a "starting tandem" in the mold of Gronkowski (PUP) and Hernandez (Prison)... obviously less effective. Ford and Sudfeld show enough promise to be kept and learn from veterans.

Any of the UDFA WRs, namely Thompkins, Sims, Ashford, and perhaps Harrison, could push Edelman or Jenkins for their spot. Amendola, Dobson, Slater only true locks, while Boyce will probably make it based on draft status.

 

[captain stone]

You and I are alone on the George Winn train. Nice.

We've seen what Bolden & Blount provide, both on and off the field. If Winn can compete with them
as a runner, then his other attributes - blocking, STs play, clean record - should make him a legit contender
to become Ridley's backup.

 

[manxman2601]

We've seen what Bolden & Blount provide, both on and off the field. If Winn can compete with them
as a runner, then his other attributes - blocking, STs play, clean record - should make him a legit contender
to become Ridley's backup.

Yes. Absolutely.

 

[jmt57]

For the sake of comparison, here are early projections from Mike Reiss and Field Yates; most notable is that both have Kenbrell Thompkins making the roster over Michael Jenkins:

New England Patriots 53-man roster projection (v. 1) - espnBoston

Mike Reiss:
QB (2): Tom Brady, Ryan Mallett
RB (5): Stevan Ridley, Shane Vereen, Leon Washington, Brandon Bolden, LeGarrette Blount
TE (3): Michael Hoomanawanui, Jake Ballard, Daniel Fells
WR (6): Danny Amendola, Julian Edelman, Kenbrell Thompkins, Josh Boyce, Aaron Dobson, Matthew Slater
OL (8): Nate Solder, Logan Mankins, Ryan Wendell, Dan Connolly, Sebastian Vollmer, Marcus Cannon, Will Svitek, Nick McDonald

DT (4): Vince Wilfork, Tommy Kelly, Armond Armstead, Marcus Forston
DE (6): Chandler Jones, Rob Ninkovich, justin Francis, Jake Bequette, Jermaine Cunningham, Michael Buchanan
LB (5): Jerod Mayo, Dont'a Hightower, Brandon Spikes, Jamie Collins, Dane Fletcher
CB (5): Aqib Talib, Alfonzo Dennard, Kyle Arrington, Ras-I Dowling, Logan Ryan
S (6): Devin McCourty, Adrian Wilson, Steve Gregory, Tavon Wilson, Duron Harmon, Nate Ebner

ST (3): Zoltan Mesko, Stephen Gostkowski, Danny Aiken

PUP (1): Rob Gronkowski


Field Yates:
QB (3): Tom Brady, Ryan Mallett, Tim Tebow
RB (4): Stevan Ridley, Shane Vereen, Leon Washington, Brandon Bolden
TE (5): Rob Gronkowski, Michael Hoomanawanui, Jake Ballard, Daniel Fells, Zach Sudfeld
WR (6): Danny Amendola, Julian Edelman, Kenbrell Thompkins, Josh Boyce, Aaron Dobson, Matthew Slater
OL (8): Nate Solder, Logan Mankins, Ryan Wendell, Dan Connolly, Sebastian Vollmer, Marcus Cannon, Will Svitek, Nick McDonald

DT (3): Vince Wilfork, Tommy Kelly, Armond Armstead
DE (5): Chandler Jones, Rob Ninkovich, justin Francis, Jake Bequette, Marcus Benard
LB (5): Jerod Mayo, Dont'a Hightower, Brandon Spikes, Jamie Collins, Dane Fletcher
CB (5): Aqib Talib, Alfonzo Dennard, Kyle Arrington, Ras-I Dowling, Logan Ryan
S (6): Devin McCourty, Adrian Wilson, Steve Gregory, Tavon Wilson, Duron Harmon, Nate Ebner

ST (3): Zoltan Mesko, Stephen Gostkowski, Danny Aiken​

 

[Sicilian]

OP, are you the one who created or manages the Pats Picker? If so, I have a recommendation that I think some (or at least myself) would find useful:

Have a column to the side that sticks whether you're on on the offense or defense/ST tab, called "Bubble Players" or something like that. The theory being you could drag several players from multiple positions and see a pool of players that aren't locks but are among those you could making the team.

Small example, I might put together a roster with 50 players I consider "locks", then I might be Ebner, Cole, Koutivides, Rivera, Edelman, and Beauharnais in the bubble column. In this scenario, I'd be saying these six players are fighting it out for three spots, and the best ST contributors will make it.

Thoughts?

 

[mgteich]

In this case, I would simply list 6-7 STers.

I guess an additional roster spot of "utility player" might help.

OP, are you the one who created or manages the Pats Picker? If so, I have a recommendation that I think some (or at least myself) would find useful:

Have a column to the side that sticks whether you're on on the offense or defense/ST tab, called "Bubble Players" or something like that. The theory being you could drag several players from multiple positions and see a pool of players that aren't locks but are among those you could making the team.

Small example, I might put together a roster with 50 players I consider "locks", then I might be Ebner, Cole, Koutivides, Rivera, Edelman, and Beauharnais in the bubble column. In this scenario, I'd be saying these six players are fighting it out for three spots, and the best ST contributors will make it.

Thoughts?

 

[mgteich]

Also, Yates has 5 TE's and 8 DL's while Reiss has 3 TE's and 10 DL's.

For the sake of comparison, here are early projections from Mike Reiss and Field Yates; most notable is that both have Kenbrell Thompkins making the roster over Michael Jenkins:

New England Patriots 53-man roster projection (v. 1) - espnBoston

Mike Reiss:
QB (2): Tom Brady, Ryan Mallett
RB (5): Stevan Ridley, Shane Vereen, Leon Washington, Brandon Bolden, LeGarrette Blount
TE (3): Michael Hoomanawanui, Jake Ballard, Daniel Fells
WR (6): Danny Amendola, Julian Edelman, Kenbrell Thompkins, Josh Boyce, Aaron Dobson, Matthew Slater
OL (8): Nate Solder, Logan Mankins, Ryan Wendell, Dan Connolly, Sebastian Vollmer, Marcus Cannon, Will Svitek, Nick McDonald

DT (4): Vince Wilfork, Tommy Kelly, Armond Armstead, Marcus Forston
DE (6): Chandler Jones, Rob Ninkovich, justin Francis, Jake Bequette, Jermaine Cunningham, Michael Buchanan
LB (5): Jerod Mayo, Dont'a Hightower, Brandon Spikes, Jamie Collins, Dane Fletcher
CB (5): Aqib Talib, Alfonzo Dennard, Kyle Arrington, Ras-I Dowling, Logan Ryan
S (6): Devin McCourty, Adrian Wilson, Steve Gregory, Tavon Wilson, Duron Harmon, Nate Ebner

ST (3): Zoltan Mesko, Stephen Gostkowski, Danny Aiken

PUP (1): Rob Gronkowski


Field Yates:
QB (3): Tom Brady, Ryan Mallett, Tim Tebow
RB (4): Stevan Ridley, Shane Vereen, Leon Washington, Brandon Bolden
TE (5): Rob Gronkowski, Michael Hoomanawanui, Jake Ballard, Daniel Fells, Zach Sudfeld
WR (6): Danny Amendola, Julian Edelman, Kenbrell Thompkins, Josh Boyce, Aaron Dobson, Matthew Slater
OL (8): Nate Solder, Logan Mankins, Ryan Wendell, Dan Connolly, Sebastian Vollmer, Marcus Cannon, Will Svitek, Nick McDonald

DT (3): Vince Wilfork, Tommy Kelly, Armond Armstead
DE (5): Chandler Jones, Rob Ninkovich, justin Francis, Jake Bequette, Marcus Benard
LB (5): Jerod Mayo, Dont'a Hightower, Brandon Spikes, Jamie Collins, Dane Fletcher
CB (5): Aqib Talib, Alfonzo Dennard, Kyle Arrington, Ras-I Dowling, Logan Ryan
S (6): Devin McCourty, Adrian Wilson, Steve Gregory, Tavon Wilson, Duron Harmon, Nate Ebner

ST (3): Zoltan Mesko, Stephen Gostkowski, Danny Aiken​

 

[SONS_OF_BELICHICK]

QB (2) Brady, Mallett
RB (5) Ridley, Washington, Bolden, Blount, Vereen
WR (5) Amendola, Dobson, Edelman, Thompkins, Boyce
TE (4) Ballard, Sudfeld, Hoomanawanui, Gronkowski
C (2) Wendell, McDonald
G (4) Connolly, Cannon, McDonald, Mankins
T (3) Solder, Zusevics, Vollmer
DE (5) Ninkovich, Buchanan, Jones, Bequette, Cunningham
DT (4) Wilfork, Kelly, Grissom, Armstead
ILB(3) Beauharnais, Spikes, Fletcher
OLB(3) Mayo, Hightower, Collins
CB (5) Dennard, Arrington, Dowling, Ryan, Talib
SS (3) Wilson, Wilson, Ebner
FS (2) Harmon, McCourty
ST (3) Gostkowski, Aiken, Mesko

Total players: 53
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[jmt57]

Also, Yates has 5 TE's and 8 DL's while Reiss has 3 TE's and 10 DL's.

Yeah, I saw that too and am glad you brought that up.

Ten defensive linemen seems excessive and three tight ends (even if it is only for the first six games) does not look to be enough.

Bottom of the roster players are going to be counted on to perform on special teams. Those guys are less likely to be linemen and more likely to be tight ends, defensive backs, receivers or running backs.

While having plenty of defensive linemen available to rotate over the course of a game to keep them all fresh is a good idea, I just don't see the point in committing 20% of the roster to those four positions.

 

[mgteich]

The norm is 9 DL's and 5 LB's plus a LB/STer or two. We could go with 8 if we were more of a 3-4 team. Those LB/STer's may need to be corners or safeties this year. Of course, one injury in camp and this won't be an issue.

Yeah, I saw that too and am glad you brought that up.

Ten defensive linemen seems excessive and three tight ends (even if it is only for the first six games) does not look to be enough.

Bottom of the roster players are going to be counted on to perform on special teams. Those guys are less likely to be linemen and more likely to be tight ends, defensive backs, receivers or running backs.

While having plenty of defensive linemen available to rotate over the course of a game to keep them all fresh is a good idea, I just don't see the point in committing 20% of the roster to those four positions.

 

[patsinthesnow]

QB (2) Brady, Tebow
RB (4) Ridley, Vereen, Bolden, Washington
WR (7) Amendola, Dobson, Boyce, Jenkins, Edelman, Thompkins, Slater
TE (4) Gronkowski, Ballard, Hoomanawanui, Sudfeld
C (2) Wendell, McDonald
G (3) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon
T (3) Vollmer, Solder, Zusevics
DE (4) Jones, Ninkovich, Francis, Cunningham
DT (4) Wilfork, Kelly, Armstead, Forston
ILB(4) Spikes, Fletcher, Beauharnais, Koutouvides
OLB(3) Mayo, Collins, Hightower
CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Dowling, Ryan
SS (3) A. Wilson, Harmon, Ebner
FS (2) McCourty, Wilson
ST (3) Gostkowski, Aiken, Allen

Total players: 53
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Bump

QB (2) Brady, Mallett
RB (5) Ridley, Vereen, Blount, Bolden, Washington
WR (6) Amendola, Thompkins, Dobson, Edelman, Boyce, Jenkins
TE (4) Gronkowski, Fells, Sudfeld, Ballard
C (1) Wendell
G (3) Mankins, Cannon, Connolly
T (4) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek, Zusevics
DE (5) Ninkovich, Jones, Benard, Francis, Buchanan
DT (4) Wilfork, Kelly, Armstead, Forston
ILB(3) Spikes, Fletcher, Beauharnais
OLB(3) Mayo, Hightower, Collins
CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Dowling, Ryan
SS (2) Wilson, Ebner
FS (3) McCourty, Gregory, Harmon
ST (3) Gostkowski, Aiken, Mesko

Total players: 53
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One month later. Cut Jenkins outright, swap Hooman for Fells, swap Tebow for Mallett, add a 5th RB, swap Cunningham for Bernard, and the surprise cut, Tavon.

 

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Default Re: Patriots 53-Man Roster Projection 2.0
QB (3) Brady, Mallett, Tebow
RB (4) Ridley, Vereen, Washington, Blount
WR (6) Amendola, Dobson, Boyce, Edelman, Slater, Thompkins
TE (5) Hoomanawanui, Sudfeld, Fells, Gronkowski, Ballard
C (2) Wendell, Connolly
G (3) Mankins, Cannon, McDonald
T (3) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek
DE (4) Ninkovich, Jones, Benard, Francis
DT (3) Wilfork, Kelly, Forston
ILB(3) Spikes, Koutouvides, Fletcher
OLB(3) Mayo, Hightower, Collins
CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Ryan, Cole
SS (3) Wilson, Wilson, Ebner
FS (3) McCourty, Gregory, Harmon
ST (3) Gostkowski, Aiken, Mesko

Total players: 53
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PUP:Armstead, Harrison
ST: Ebner, Slater, Koutouvides
PS: Sims, Beauharnais, Allen, Aiken, Buchanan
notable CUTS: Ras-i-Dowling, Cunningham, Bolden, Jenkins
on the Bubble: Tebow,Hooman, Tarpinian, Bequette