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  1. chunkypony

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    Per Reiss:

    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

    "The Patriots have matched the Broncos' free-agent offer to punter Todd Sauerbrun.

    Last Tuesday, the Broncos and Sauerbrun agreed to a one-year contract that could be worth up to $1.4 million with incentives. The Patriots had seven days to match the offer, as part of a first right of refusal."

    Interesting....I thought they were done with this guy....
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    hes got a very strong leg and really came on at end of season
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    Does stallworth still get 18?
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    gotta love the training camp competition
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    they might have to fight it out..but i would bet on SaueROIDS to win the fight if they ever duke it out
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    Catches me by surprise too, I figured Miller was our guy and thanks to Sauerbrun for bailing us out last year.

    Can we trade him to Denver for a 2008 #6 pick or something ?
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    Didn't we just give Miller a 100K bonus? Thi seems weird. Maybe we'll trade him to Denver for a 6th or 7th now. That would be funny.
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    Well Miller is 37 (even for a punter that's getting up there). I think we end up with Miller again this year but it's good for TC purposes and it makes the Donks squirm a little.
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    The contract he signed with denver had a no-trade clause in it.
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    If that's true,that there's a poison pill,I'm mystified why BB matched.
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    Uh, maybe because there's medical concern about Miller's incapacitating injury? So what if we can't trade him - cut him if need be.
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    Good!!

    Take that Shannahan, you want our guys, part with a draft choice, Otherwise, Skarooooooo you
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    i actually think sauerbrun has the stronger leg. i was very disappointed with miller last year.
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    thats surprising....up to 1.4 million for a back up punter...??

    but i agree with all o fyou who think sauer has the stronger leg..

    although i'd take miller of sauer, miller has the accuracy, and sauer has the power....what good is power when you punt the ball into the endzone for a touchback
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    No. How much is guaranteed?
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    It's fun being right.:D
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    Good competition. Let the best man win.
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    Who is the best man though? as much as I like having the only jewish 6 foot 4 punter in the world I think saurerbrun might be best especially given a training camp to get in sync with his punt team and with how BB likes to punt.
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    Last year Miller averaged 43 yards/punt with a net of 35.8
    Last year Sauerbrun averaged 40.8 yards/punt with a net of 30.7

    In 2005...
    Miller avg. 45.1 yards/punt with a net of 38.3.
    Sauerbrun avg. 43.8 yards/punt with a net of 38.

    Looks like Miller has had the stronger leg as of late and I believe he is more accurate than roidboy as well.
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    i think they wanted Sauerbrun all the time they paid Miller 100k bonus as insurance in case someone overpaid sauerbrun and they didnt want to match sauerbrun has the stronger leg, good sign it helps our special teams
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    I think that deal stipulated he couldn't be transition or franchise tagged either (not that I could picture doing that with a punter). So count me among the mystified since Sauerbraun has never been a great clubhouse presence and can be a real pain in the butt when he's unhappy. And he made it pretty clear his heart belongs to Shanny...
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    Just moving this to the next page because it seems as though there are plenty of people that think Sauerbrun has the stronger leg and don't read all of the posts.

    Stats say otherwise.
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    True, but usually these clauses are no-trade without player permission, so Sauerbrun could probably okay a trade to Denver (which he likely would do so happily).

    Or they keep him and have two good punters for camp at minimal risk.
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    Even in the play-offs, Sauerbrun was out-kicking the coverage some. But, he was doing better than he had in the regular season.

    Still prefer MILLER over Sauerbrun. Miller, at least, holds on kicks, though Sauerbrun provides back-up on kick-offs.
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    There is a no trade clause in the contract. Unless Sauerbrun waives that clause (which he'd probably do to go to Denver), we're stuck with him.
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    If he can waive it for a specific team then we might still be able to trade him - or maybe we can trade Miller to Denver :D
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    Lies, damn lies and statistics...Sauerbrun had 10 punts in 2006 and one was returned for a TD. I wouldn't call that overly significant. Miller's 2005 was abnormally good while Sauerbrun's was below his norm. Sauerbrun has the stronger leg (regardless of the stats you cherry-pick to say otherwise) but he has questions in the "control" categories like return TDs and Inside-20 vs. touchback.

    Maybe BB will give Sauerbrun a chance to get his "control" together in TC. Maybe Miller's injury raises more questions than BB is comfortable with. Whatever the reason, I'm not losing any sleep over this development.
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    Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

    Two punter formations.

    Count on it.
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    This is strange, it seems like a lot for a punter. Plus we have two on our practice squad, so much for building from the trenches....

    We could get one of the top college punters for a lot less with one our 6th round picks.

    Example - I looked for 2 seconds, found this guy listed as a 7 round UDFA, from NFLDraftScout

    Name: Brandon Fields
    College: Michigan State Number: 8
    Height: 6-5 Weight: 239
    Position: P Pos2: K

    "The Toledo, Ohio, native ranks second among NCAA I-A active punters with his 45.0-yard career average. His career punting average also ranks No. 2 on MSU's all-time list and No. 3 in Big Ten history (tied with Ohio State's Andy Groom, 2001-02), trailing only Iowa's Reggie Roby (45.5 avg., 1979-82) and former Spartan Greg Montgomery (45.2 avg., 1985-87). "

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