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  1. Fencer

    Fencer Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    Not a lot new, however. Unlike Patriots, NFL slow to embrace 'Moneyball'

     
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    jcdavey In the Starting Line-Up

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    pats seem to have been a plug and play team for their entire BB run

    always seeming to get much more out of some players than other teams could

    just looking at their defense shows that IMO

    alot of guys who aren't big names, but played good enough to win the sb if some bounces go their way rather than the giants (and that welker drop)
     
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    Many of these players are worth more when they play with the Patriots, and when they move on they fade into obscurity.

    BB is a master at capitolizing on their strenghths..
     
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    Reading that bit about the Arkansas coach made me think that in Rugby, the scoring team receives the kickoff as a reward. There's no reason why a football team shouldn't try to posess the ball for 100% of the game, as in Rugby.
     
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    Micheal Holley's "WAR ROOM" delves into the Pats strategy pretty in depth
     
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    Loved Moneyball.

    Excellent film on sports/organizational management.

    One of my favorite scenes was in the lockerroom between Billy Beane and Jeremy Giambi.

    BB: "Is losing fun? I said is losing fun?"

    JG: stops dancing [silence]

    BB: "Then why are we dancing?"
     
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    Ouch... BB has a habit of using non football film as motivation...
     
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    If only the Patriots could win as much as the A's do.
     
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    One game...162 games...16 games...

    Is losing fun?
     
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    No Coach Lombardi it isn't. Unfortunately Patriot fans are stuck with losers like Gronkowski who only care about partying, we don't have the winners the A's do. Sucks being a Patriot fan and always losing. Wish we we all A's fans.
     
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    I don't know where all that is coming from.

    It's not fun to lose, but dancing is fun.
     
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    You know what else is fun? Watching Patriot fans talk about how they care more about the game than a player who gives absolutely everything they have. I hope you take the time to go to training camp next summer and tell Gronkowski to his face what a slacker he is and how his attitude costs them championships.

    Thank god for fans who care as much as you, otherwise the team would be sunk as they are stuck with players who just don't care.
     
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    I don't know how much moneyball can be converted into something meaningfull in football.

    If anything I think the one thing BB is light years ahead fo the NFL in doing is having a ully developed system and then plugging players into the system and keeping the ones that can do what a particular job entails and discarding the others.

    And except for the OLB position, no team does a better job of coaching up players than New England.
     
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    You should watch Moneyball.

    It's a good movie.

    Bradd Pitt was fantastic.

    Better than in The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.

    Which is also a good movie...if you get a chance to see it.
     
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    John Henry has just brought it in at Liverpool. Liverpools transfers are now heavily based on statistics. Stats have a place but shoud never be used over your eyes and instinct IMO.
     
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    How about that?? Well, who woulda thunk it!
     
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    NEP4Life Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    I'd need to see the study to review the methodology, but I tend to agree, at least to the extent that I believe the incremental increase in ability from a good/very good RB to an elite RB is not worth the incremental dollar cost.
     
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    You have no clue......

    gronk is a 22 year old kid................the only way you can possibly judge his heart, attitude and competiveness is by what you see on the field. Looked pretty damn good to me...I'll take that kind of effort anytime. The kids a winner.

    If you want to slam someone, you should slam the ahole that thought it funny to publish a private moment.
     
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    Agreed. But man, just for the sake of discussion, it sure would have been nice if our starting RB was a guy like McCoy or Peterson. Oh well. I'm perfectly comfortable with our RB situation if next year's group is BJGE, Woodhead, Ridley, and Vereen.
     
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    lmao-I'm guessing you failed reading comprehension? Here's a hint, that post was a direct shot at Elijah, who apparently thinks Gronkowski sucks and has been crapping on him for going out after the SB. I'm a Gronkowski supporter, i think he had every right to deal to go out after the game and believe he's going to become one of the great players in patriots history when all is said and done. The fans crapping on him are completely clueless.
     
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