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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Hobbs is a good corner. He's not a ball hawk, but his coverage is pretty solid. He's just got to learn not to dance after every half decent play... it got old a long time ago.
A couple from last year and the year before. This has nothing at all about not likeing Ellis, it has everytrhing to do with believeing that the Patriots should have better CB's. Ellis just isn't that good. All the excuses about lack of a pass rush and being left alone is bull. If the Patriots are a SB quality team they will need better DB play. If the #1 shouldn't be a #1 you find a number 1. If there are better DB's to be had replacing the old #1 and #2 with newer better players should be the priority of the team. Ellis Hobbs will thrive as a nickle back this year. He will struggle again if he is lined up against the other team's #1 or #2 reciever.
BostonHerald.com - Blogs: The Point After Blog Archive League official rules Hobbs call correct
From 2007
So much for the NFL owing Ellis Hobbs another one. The league’s VP of officiating, Mike Pereira, said on the NFL Network that Hobbs should have been flagged for the 40-yard penalty on Reggie Wayne Sunday.
“I see it as a cutoff,” Pereira said. “It’s one of the six categories of pass interference and I’ll tell you why. When the contact first occurs between the receiver and defender, has the defender turned around and is he making a legitimate play on the ball? No. He’s not until after this contact occurs. Now he does eventually get his head around, but this is pass interference, because this initial contact with Ellis not playing the ball and Reggie playing the ball makes this pass interference on Ellis Hobbs and the correct call.
“You’ve got to look at the first point of initial contact. If at that point the defender has turend around and is making a play on the ball, that’s a clean play. But if he’s playing the receiver, not the ball, that’s a cutoff. If there’s contact, then (the defender) turns and makes a play on the ball, that’s pass interference, and that’s how I see this play.”
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Last year against the Chargers a 32 yard PI.
Sporting News Today - October 14, 2008
Defensive Pass Interference (Fewest)
DAL - 4
NE - 3
ATL - 3
CHI - 3
TB - 2
The Bucs have a defensive backfield that knows how to stay clean -- they haven't had a PI call since Week 8. Ellis Hobbs has two of New England's three. Anthony Henry has two of Dallas' four -- there's one from a fellow by the name of Pacman, but he's out of the picture.
Smarter Stats: Penalties for Potential Playoff Teams - The League at washingtonpost.com
A look at the Patriots penalized most in 2008:
# OLB Mike Vrabel -- 6
# RT Nick Kaczur -- 5
# LT Matt Light -- 4
# RG Stephen Neal -- 3
# WR Sam Aiken -- 3
# CB Ellis Hobbs -- 3
# LG Logan Mankins -- 3
# ILB Jerod Mayo -- 3
# TE Benjamin Watson -- 3
No offense to anyone, but I'm sort of stunned to see Ellis Hobbs being defended so much. Seriously, he's far from a #1 corner and barely at the level of a #2. Teams move up and down the field throwing at him. What's even worse is that he gets thrown at a lot and still barely ever makes a big play. I like having him, because he'd be fine as a #3 corner, but that's about it.
So much for the NFL owing Ellis Hobbs another one. The league’s VP of officiating, Mike Pereira, said on the NFL Network that Hobbs should have been flagged for the 40-yard penalty on Reggie Wayne Sunday.
Not according to any stats I've seen. As to getting thrown at a lot, no, not according to the stats.
Ok, I guess I'm wrong then.
It certainly seems like he's thrown at and beaten a lot though...
It has everything to do with not liking Ellis. Come on, you're pretending that you have some insight into officials not liking his game and giving him penalties as a result. Here's last season:
Penalty leaders - Reiss' Pieces - Boston.com
3 penalties all season as part of an NFL record fewest accepted penalties...... but you keep on pretending that this is anything but you pulling a Nem about Hobbs.
Maybe you are right. I have met him a few times and he is kind of an A-hole. But even if I did like him it wouldn't change my opinion of his play. He should not be a starting DB on a Superbowl contender.
Its a good deal. Im not a Hobbs hater, he's serviceable but not as good as he thinks he is. I always fear when he gets lined up and isolated versus the best WR's
TY. I feel much better about this signing now. :singing:
3/11/09
Patriots sign DBs Shawn Springs & Leigh Bodden New England Patriots
FOXBOROUGH, Mass. - The New England Patriots signed veteran defensive backs Shawn Springs and Leigh Bodden today. Terms of the agreements were not disclosed.
Shawn Springs, 33, is a veteran of 12 NFL seasons with the Seattle Seahawks (1997-2003) and Washington Redskins (2004-08). The 6-foot, 204-pound cornerback has played in 157 career games with 147 starts and has made 662 tackles (568 solo), 8.5 sacks, 32 interceptions for 421 yards and two touchdowns, 137 passes defensed, five forced fumbles and six fumble recoveries for 85 yards and a touchdown. Springs is one of 17 active players with 30 or more career interceptions and has recorded at least one interception in each of his 12 NFL seasons. Springs was named to the Pro Bowl following the 1998 season. He is the only defensive back in NFL history to lead his team in sacks and interceptions in the same season, achieving the feat with the Redskins in 2004. Last season, he played in nine games with seven starts for the Redskins and had 36 tackles (33 solo), one sack, one interception and eight passes defensed.
The Ohio State product was originally selected by the Seahawks in the first round (third overall) of the 1997 NFL Draft and played in 93 games with 88 starts over seven seasons in Seattle (1997-2003). After starting 10 games as a rookie in 1997, he had a breakout year in 1998 when he started every game and recorded a career-high seven interceptions. He scored three touchdowns in 1998, including two interception returns for touchdowns and a fumble return for a touchdown. He started every game again in 1999 and led the Seahawks with five interceptions. In 2000, he started every game for the third straight season and had a career-high 85 tackles along with a pair of interceptions.
Springs was signed by the Redskins as an unrestricted free agent on March 4, 2004 and played in 64 games with 52 starts over five seasons in Washington (2004-08). In his debut season with the Redskins, Springs led the team in sacks (6) and interceptions (5), becoming the first defensive back in NFL history to achieve the feat. He is one of just five players in league history to do it, joining Junior Seau (San Diego, 1997), Joey Porter (Pittsburgh, 2002), Adalius Thomas (Baltimore, 2005) and Jason Taylor (Miami, 2006). Springs’ six sacks in 2004 led all NFL defensive backs. In 2005, he started all 15 games in which he appeared and recorded 51 tackles and an interception. In 2006, he played in nine games with eight starts and was placed on injured reserve with a shoulder injury (12/26/06). He played in all 16 games in 2007 and made 14 starts while finishing second on the team with four interceptions and fourth on the club with 72 tackles.
Leigh Bodden, 27, is a veteran of six NFL seasons with the Cleveland Browns (2003-07) and Detroit Lions (2008). The 6-foot-1-inch, 193-pound cornerback has played in 75 career games with 53 starts and has recorded 287 tackles (212 solo), 13 interceptions for 132 yards, 56 passes defensed, six forced fumbles, five fumble recoveries and 30 special teams tackles. Last season with Detroit, Bodden played in 16 games with 15 starts and tied for fifth on the team with 80 tackles (68 solo). Additionally, he tied for the team lead with three forced fumbles and also tied the club best with two fumble recoveries. Bodden was acquired by the Lions from the Browns on March 1, 2008 along with a 2008 third-round draft pick in exchange for defensive tackle Shaun Rogers. Bodden was released by the Lions on Feb. 9, 2009.
The Hyattsville, Md. native spent the first five years of his career with Cleveland after being signed by the Browns as an undrafted rookie free agent from Duquense on May 2, 2003. In his first two NFL seasons, Bodden appeared in 21 games with two starts, recording a total of 21 tackles, one interception and 29 special teams tackles. In 2005, he earned a spot as a full-time starter, playing in 13 games with 11 starts and had 59 tackles while tying for the team lead with three interceptions and pacing the club with 20 passes defened. He was limited to nine starts in 2006 due to an ankle injury, but still recorded 35 tackles, two interceptions and 11 passes defensed. In 2007, he started every game and led the Browns with a career-high six interceptions and also set a personal best with 92 tackles.
One more thing, what's with all the man love for Ellis? Ellis, is that you? God of wrath, how about target of coaches wrath?
I said he could be a good nickleback, that is better than some of the things I called him during the season last year. He is just OK, maybe a little more than OK, but as a #1 or #2 he just sucks.
This forum is to post. And I agree, only a Jets fan would suck up to Ellis like you do.
up till now, i've been willing to put up with your stupid remarks about Hobbs, BUT DON'T EVER REFER TO ME AS A JETS FAN
I like Hobbs. Yes, he needs to stop dancing around like an idiot, but thats where i stop agreeing with you. You clearly are not watching enough football to know what the hell you're talking about. :banned:
You know what they say about opinions.
I wasn't accusing you of anything
You are wrong about Ellis. Someday he will make a fine nickle back, until that day comes he will forever be a below average starting corner. People here like to make excuses about why he gets toasted as ofetn as he does, but the fact of the matter is the coaches haven't done him any favors, it isn't his fault he can't play the position.The coaches tried to replace him last year and they have made it their mission to replace him this year. His future in the NFL is as a kick returner/nickle back.