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  1. betterthanthealternative

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    He doesn't get the money if they release him.

    I'm wondering if there will be any type of retirement announcement during Superbowl weekend so he gets a proper send off from the home crowd and national audience.
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    I know it's popular to hate the guy here in New England, but I've had a different take on the Colts ever since they won the Superbowl. I don't know what it was, but it made me respect them more. And say what you want, but it's a damn shame for a quarterback of his caliber to go out in this way. Yes, he was on a team I rooted against many times, but he's technically one of the best quarterbacks ever.

    I really hope he ends up playing somewhere next year (preferably in NFC, I'm not stupid!).
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    I don't think anyone here hates him or wants him to retire. That would be crazy considering he is much more skilled and worthy of praise than others like Eli and Rodgers.
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    This news brings me no joy.
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    how it would suck for his final game be a loss to the Jets .


    Best of luck Goober. You were a great player.
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    Thoughts

    1) Sad news, if true. He is one of the greats and gave Pats fans a lot of excitement and no little agita.

    2) No one on this Board who understands and loves the game will rejoice at this news.

    3) He's too classy to get his "sendoff" in Indy and become a distraction during SB week.

    4) Just a correction of an earlier post: the Colts don't have to pay him if they release him.

    5) I hope it's not true.
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    No disrespect to Manning.....but this week,2 teams deserve all the attention

    The Manning soap opera should wait until the season is over.

    It seems the Manning talk is overtaking the Super Bowl and it's participants and it seems like a bit of disrespect from the media.
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    I think if a player is injured the player needs to pass a physical before he can be released. If the player doesn't pass the team and the player must reach agreement on an injury settlement.

    If I am right Manning will get a significant settlement from the Colts if released.
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    I think it sucks...really. He is a great competitor.

    yes he made the comment re: his o-line but there sure must have been some frusteration there.

    Ultimately I wish him the very best. He was good for the NFL and filled a lot of pockets in the process...
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    If true this is indeed sad news. Let's face it, he was our favorite opponent, maybe we breathed a little sigh of relief when the divisions were realigned and we no longer had to face him more than once in the regular season but that one game (if it happened) was the biggest game on the schedule. Not only that, Peyton was a class act, we wanted to beat him not because we disliked him but because he represented the highest level of competition. Too bad he's going out as part of a bad soap opera, he deserves better. Football fans will miss him.
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    I agree. Everybody from the Colts organisation, please shut up this week.

    Sad news if true, always been great matchups against him. He brought so much to the Colts. I think the Colts are handling the situation very poorly.
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    I have thought, since November, that he will retire so I am not surprised. Chances of him coming back are probably less than 5%. Everything points to that when you add up everything he went through over the last 12 months.
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    What do sorcerers know about arm strength? Any quotes from doctors?
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    Is he doing the coin toss?
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    He needs to go see Dr. Marcus Elliot
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    Bill Polion was on Sirius radio last night and gave a long answer about the Manning situation.
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    As NFP pointed out, the contract was rather unusual: the only practical options the Colts have are to release him outright or to pay him the option bonus; if they just let his contract lapse by "doing nothing," then they still owe him the $28M as a "non-exercise fee."
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    Peyton was one of the greatest of all time. He acted a little whiny and spoiled his first few years in the league which drew the ire of Pats fans, but he grew out of that behavior when he hit his 30's. He was a class act and made great commercials too. He will be missed.
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    I used to hate Manning, now the hate is more towards his little brother. Peyton earned my respect throughout the years and the Brady Manning rivalry will always stand as one of the bests. Surely one of the greats.
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    Agree this is sad if true. Not with a bang but a whimper.....

    Agree with those too who think it should be put on the back burner until after the Superbowl, but it seems like it's media driven, rather than Manning driven.

    I hope for his sake that he thinks about his life going forward and makes the best decision based on how well he will live for the next 50 years, not on how well he can play for the next few years.
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    even if it's true re his arm strength, I don't think he's retiring any time soon. I'd expect him to continue rehab, treatment, etc. at least into next season before calling it quits.
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    It will sure be interesting to see how this all plays out.

    I've always respected him as a football player. I think his level of play had a direct effect on the Pats, as in quite often the road to the SB went through Indy (or vise versa). So NE had to play better, too.

    Like most around here I got Manning fatigue with his commercials :rolleyes: But being a fan of the game, it never took away my appreciation of what he did on the field.

    I hope he can retire on his terms, whenever that is.
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    Could not disagree more with those lamenting press coverage of Manning The Second's issues this week. I avoid all SB coverage like the plague, excepting reports on player health about which thanks to Patsfans posters I'm well appraised. Manning is a great distraction and stress reliever since we have no dog in the fight. Personally I wish him the best of health.

    Super Bowl press coverage most always irritates me more than it informs me. I'm not the self-flagellating masochist who with rabbit ears fully up searches for every negative tidbit and then goes into full offended mode. Your mileage may vary.
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    Hate to see his career end this way if it is in fact the end, but I did see this potentially coming last preseason. Too bad for the Colts that they didn't think it was a possibility when they signed Manning to the huge contract.
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    This would be terrible if true. I don't know about you guys, but I actually missed Peyton even this season. He is great for the league.
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    This news truly makes me sad as a fan of the game. I like to see a player leave on his or her own terms rather than being forced out by injury or even simply old age. I really hope that this IS NOT true and that he is able to return and play like he did before the injury. The guy is the ultimate professional and is a coach on the field. I like and respect him a great deal, and I would love to see him suit up again.

    I also have a bit of a selfish reason in that I really don't want this to muddy things when the debate arises as to who is or was truly better between Manning and Brady. I can see people bringing up the fact that his career was cut short as the main reason why, should Brady go on to have continued statistical success, it would be discredited to some degree. People already look for all kinds of reasons to, especially statistical, to say Manning is better than Brady. They will totally choose to forget that Brady also missed a full season in his career (assuming that's all Manning ends up missing).
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    Manning has played in three more seasons than Tom. Brady would have to play until he's 37/38 to accumulate the same amount of season Peyton has played in, assuming he never plays another down. If that's the case, and they both end up with the same number of seasons played, I really don't see how anyone could make the argument you are suggesting.
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    I can care less about attention hog Manning and his PR machine he is running during SB week.
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    Chris Mortenson was on Mike and Mike this morning practcally foaming at the mouth that Manning is not retiring. I think everyone is just waiting for the Colts to turn him loose and wondering where he'll end up next.
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