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  1. Seneschal2

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    Last draft, we kept track of all visits and workouts in one handy thread. Thought we'd do so again. One serious guideline: Please post links and pertinent quotes for each prospect. Please sticky if deemed worthy.

    First up -- DE/OLB Cliff Avril, Purdue.

    Purdue Pro Day

     
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    Here's a comparison between Cliff Avril and Demarcus Ware

    Ware: 6' 3.5" /251 lbs /4.56 40/1.62 10/27 reps/38.5" VJ/4.07 ss /6.85 3-cone
    Avril: 6' 2.7"/ 253 lbs/4.59 40/1.51 10/27 reps/ 37" VJ/4.23 ss/6.90 3-cone

    1.51 is maybe the fastest 10-yard split by a pass rusher in 9 years.

    Considering his college production, pedigree and athleticism, it's hard to argue that Avril shouldn't be taken in rd 1 as a 3-4 OLB. Right now I'd wait in the mid-high teens and pick whoever is still on the board between Harvey, Groves, and Avril.
     
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    I've liked him primarily because of his LB experience, which gives him an edge in that category over some of the other DE/OLB candidates. And that 1.51 split gives him a serious first step as an edge rusher. Thanks for the numbers.
     
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    Nice performance. I hesitate to lump EVERYONE who runs a fast 40, and weighs 250 lbs with Demarcus Ware though. I believe this guy was rated as a 2nd/3rd round pick?
     
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    Add Quentin Groves...

    http://www.eastcoastsportsnews.com/AlsHotNwsRms.html

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    DE/OLB Cliff Avril, Purdue (on location individual workout)
    DE/OLB Quentin Groves, Auburn (private visit)
     
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    I'm not 100% sure if this counts, but it sounds like you might want to add your own post about RB Justin Beaver.
     
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    Almost. Not an official visit or private workout. :)
     
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    It's interesting that we are visiting two DE/OLB for the moment. BB and Pioli are going to draft plenty of LB?
     
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    I know the Patriots have already at least interviewed Cason, DRC, and a number of other prospects.

    Just keeping track of workouts/visits isn't good enough. In the past some of their selections have been players they simply interviewed at the combine or the senior bowl. They had multiple meetings/workouts with Meriweather last year though.

    Oh, and the Patriots already scheduled a Gillette visit for Chevis Jackson, too.

    http://www.draftdaddy.com/blog/nfldraft.cfm
     
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    Common sense Sebastian. We know the listed prospects aren't guaranteed a Pats roster spot, but it can't hurt to have a floating thread available which we can reference leading up to the draft. It's too late to change the thread title, but you're welcome to add interviews, etc. as you see fit -- just provide necessary links.
     
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    It's not too late for the mods. ;)
     
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    The Updated List:

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    Key:
    
    * PW - Private Workout
    * PV - Private Visit
    * CBI - Combine Interview
    * ASI - Interview at College All-Star game
    * IN - Interview
    
    * (____) - Source
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    Offensive Prospects:
    
    QB Eric Ainge - ASI (PatriotsInsider.com)
    
    FB/RB Jacob Hester CBI (Patriotsinsider.com)
    
    WR Limas Sweed - CBI (Patriots Football Weekly)
    WR James Hardy - CBI (Patriotsinsider.com)
    WR Donnie Avery - ASI (PatriotsInsider.com)
    WR Lavelle Hawkins - ASI (PatriotsInsider.com)
    WR Dexter Jackson - CBI (Mike Reiss)
    WR Darius Reynaud - CBI (Patriots Football Weekly)
    WR Todd Blythe - CBI (Patriots Football Weekly)
    
    TE John Carlson - CBI (Patriots Football Weekly)
    TE Brad Cottam - CBI (Patriots Football Weekly)
    TE Kellen Davis - CBI (Patriots Football Weekly)
    
    OT Gosder Cherilus - ASI (Boston Globe)
    
    Defensive Prospects:
    
    CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - CBI (Boston Globe)
    CB Antoine Cason - CBI (PatriotsInsider.com) & PV (PatriotsInsider.com)
    CB Aqib Talib - CBI (Boston Globe)
    CB Reggie Smith - CBI (Mike Reiss)
    CB Chevis Jackson - PV (Draftdaddy.com)
    CB Charles Godfrey - ASI (PatriotsInsider.com)
    CB Terrell Thomas - ASI (PatriotsInsider.com)
    CB Orlando Scandrick - IN (PatriotsInsider.com)
    CB Justin McKinney - CBI (Patriotsinsider.com)
    
    FS/CB Simeon Castille - CBI (Patriots Football Weekly)
    
    SS Jamar Adams - ASI (PatriotsInsider.com)
    SS Jamie Silva - ASI (Boston Globe)
    
    ILB Curtis Lofton - CBI (Boston Herald)
    ILB Jonathan Goff - ASI (Boston Globe)
    
    OLB Shawn Crable - ASI (Boston Herald)
    OLB Titus Brown - ASI (PatriotsInsider.com)
    
    DE/OLB Quentin Groves - PV (eastcoastsportsnews.com)
    DE/OLB Cliff Avril - CBI (Mike Reiss) & PW (TFY Draft)
    
     
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    Key:
    
    * PW - Private Workout
    * PV - Private Visit
    * CBI - Combine Interview
    * ASI - Interview at College All-Star game
    * IN - Interview
    
    * (___) - Source
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    Offensive Prospects:
    
    QB Eric Ainge - ASI
    
    FB/RB Jacob Hester CBI
    
    WR Limas Sweed - CBI
    WR James Hardy - CBI
    WR Donnie Avery - ASI
    WR Lavelle Hawkins - ASI
    WR Dexter Jackson - CBI
    WR Darius Reynaud - CBI
    WR Todd Blythe - CBI
    
    TE John Carlson - CBI
    TE Brad Cottam - CBI
    TE Kellen Davis - CBI
    
    OT Gosder Cherilus - ASI
    
    Defensive Prospects:
    
    CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - CBI 
    CB Antoine Cason - CBI & PV
    CB Aqib Talib - CBI 
    CB Reggie Smith - CBI 
    CB Chevis Jackson - PV 
    CB Charles Godfrey - ASI 
    CB Terrell Thomas - ASI 
    CB Orlando Scandrick - IN 
    CB Justin McKinney - CBI 
    
    FS/CB Simeon Castille - CBI 
    
    SS Jamar Adams - ASI 
    SS Jamie Silva - ASI 
    
    ILB Curtis Lofton - CBI 
    ILB Jonathan Goff - ASI 
    
    OLB Shawn Crable - ASI 
    OLB Stanford Keglar - PW (DaytonaDailyNews.com)
    OLB Titus Brown - ASI 
    
    DE/OLB Quentin Groves - PV 
    DE/OLB Cliff Avril - CBI & PW
    
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    Last added: OLB Stanford Keglar's private Workout
    Source: http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/content/oh/story/sports/pro/2008/03/13/ddn031308bigc.html
    
     
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    Updated:
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    Key:
    
    * PW - Private Workout
    * PV - Private Visit
    * CBI - Combine Interview
    * ASI - Interview at College All-Star game
    * IN - Interview
    
    * (___) - Source
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    Offensive Prospects:
    
    QB Eric Ainge - ASI
    
    FB/RB Jacob Hester CBI
    
    WR Limas Sweed - CBI
    WR James Hardy - CBI
    WR Donnie Avery - ASI
    WR Lavelle Hawkins - ASI
    WR Dexter Jackson - CBI
    WR Darius Reynaud - CBI
    WR Todd Blythe - CBI
    
    TE John Carlson - CBI
    TE Brad Cottam - CBI
    TE Kellen Davis - CBI
    
    OT Gosder Cherilus - ASI
    
    Defensive Prospects:
    
    CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - CBI 
    CB Antoine Cason - CBI & PV
    CB Aqib Talib - CBI 
    CB Reggie Smith - CBI 
    CB Chevis Jackson - PV 
    CB Charles Godfrey - ASI 
    CB Terrell Thomas - ASI 
    CB Orlando Scandrick - IN 
    CB Justin McKinney - CBI 
    
    FS/CB Simeon Castille - CBI 
    
    SS Jamar Adams - ASI 
    SS Jamie Silva - ASI 
    
    ILB Curtis Lofton - CBI 
    ILB Jonathan Goff - ASI 
    ILB Thomas Williams - PW (Thomas' blog at YardBarker.com)
    
    OLB Shawn Crable - ASI 
    OLB Stanford Keglar - PW 
    OLB Titus Brown - ASI 
    
    DE/OLB Quentin Groves - PV 
    DE/OLB Cliff Avril - CBI & PW
    
    --------------------------------------------------
    Last added: ILB Thomas Williams - PW
    Source: http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/My_NFL_Dream_Has_Started/199800
    
     
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    [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]ILB Stanford Keglar, as we know was scheduled for a private workout with the Pats. According to Reiss, that date is tomorrow at Purdue. Lets stay tuned and post any post-workout info.

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    Updated:
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    Key:
    
    * PW - Private Workout
    * PV - Private Visit
    * CBI - Combine Interview
    * ASI - Interview at College All-Star game
    * IN - Interview
    
    * (___) - Source
    --------------------------------------------------
    Offensive Prospects:
    
    QB Eric Ainge - ASI
    
    FB/RB Jacob Hester CBI
    
    WR Limas Sweed - CBI
    WR James Hardy - CBI
    WR Donnie Avery - ASI
    WR Lavelle Hawkins - ASI
    WR Dexter Jackson - CBI
    WR Darius Reynaud - CBI
    WR Todd Blythe - CBI
    
    TE John Carlson - CBI
    TE Brad Cottam - CBI
    TE Kellen Davis - CBI
    
    OT Gosder Cherilus - ASI
    
    Defensive Prospects:
    
    CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - CBI 
    CB Antoine Cason - CBI & PV
    CB Aqib Talib - CBI 
    CB Reggie Smith - CBI 
    CB Chevis Jackson - PV 
    CB Charles Godfrey - ASI 
    CB Terrell Thomas - ASI 
    CB Orlando Scandrick - IN 
    CB Justin McKinney - CBI 
    
    FS/CB Simeon Castille - CBI 
    
    SS Jamar Adams - ASI 
    SS Jamie Silva - ASI 
    
    ILB Curtis Lofton - CBI 
    ILB Jonathan Goff - ASI 
    ILB Thomas Williams - PW
    
    OLB Shawn Crable - ASI 
    OLB Stanford Keglar - PW 
    OLB Titus Brown - ASI 
    
    DE/OLB Vernon Gholston - PW ([URL="http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2008/03/pats_work_out_g.html"]Mike Reiss[/URL])
    DE/OLB Quentin Groves - PV 
    DE/OLB Cliff Avril - CBI & PW
    
    --------------------------------------------------
    Last added: DE/OLB Vernon Gholston - PW 
    
     
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    Update -- added CB Wheatley

    Code:
    Key:
    
    * PW - Private Workout
    * PV - Private Visit
    * CBI - Combine Interview
    * ASI - Interview at College All-Star game
    * IN - Interview
    
    * (___) - Source
    --------------------------------------------------
    Offensive Prospects:
    
    QB Eric Ainge - ASI
    
    FB/RB Jacob Hester CBI
    
    WR Limas Sweed - CBI
    WR James Hardy - CBI
    WR Donnie Avery - ASI
    WR Lavelle Hawkins - ASI
    WR Dexter Jackson - CBI
    WR Darius Reynaud - CBI
    WR Todd Blythe - CBI
    
    TE John Carlson - CBI
    TE Brad Cottam - CBI
    TE Kellen Davis - CBI
    
    OT Gosder Cherilus - ASI
    
    Defensive Prospects:
    
    CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - CBI 
    CB Antoine Cason - CBI & PV
    CB Aqib Talib - CBI 
    CB Reggie Smith - CBI 
    CB Chevis Jackson - PV 
    CB Charles Godfrey - ASI 
    CB Terrell Thomas - ASI 
    CB Orlando Scandrick - IN 
    CB Justin McKinney - CBI
    CB Terrence Wheatley - PW* 
    
    FS/CB Simeon Castille - CBI 
    
    SS Jamar Adams - ASI 
    SS Jamie Silva - ASI 
    
    ILB Curtis Lofton - CBI 
    ILB Jonathan Goff - ASI 
    ILB Thomas Williams - PW
    
    OLB Shawn Crable - ASI 
    OLB Stanford Keglar - PW 
    OLB Titus Brown - ASI 
    
    DE/OLB Vernon Gholston - PW ([URL="http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2008/03/pats_work_out_g.html"]Mike Reiss[/URL])
    DE/OLB Quentin Groves - PV 
    DE/OLB Cliff Avril - CBI & PW
    
    *Source: [URL]http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=1[/URL]
     
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    Updated -- Added PW's for USF CB's Mike Jenkins & Trae Williams

    Code:
    Key:
    
    * PW - Private Workout
    * PV - Private Visit
    * CBI - Combine Interview
    * ASI - Interview at College All-Star game
    * IN - Interview
    
    * (___) - Source
    --------------------------------------------------
    Offensive Prospects:
    
    QB Eric Ainge - ASI
    
    FB/RB Jacob Hester CBI
    
    WR Limas Sweed - CBI
    WR James Hardy - CBI
    WR Donnie Avery - ASI
    WR Lavelle Hawkins - ASI
    WR Dexter Jackson - CBI
    WR Darius Reynaud - CBI
    WR Todd Blythe - CBI
    
    TE John Carlson - CBI
    TE Brad Cottam - CBI
    TE Kellen Davis - CBI
    
    OT Gosder Cherilus - ASI
    
    Defensive Prospects:
    
    CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - CBI 
    CB Mike Jenkins - PW ([URL="http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/mar/21/sp-belichick-works-out-usfs-stars/?sports-colleges-bulls"]Brett McMurphy, Tampa Tribune[/URL])
    CB Antoine Cason - CBI & PV
    CB Aqib Talib - CBI 
    CB Reggie Smith - CBI 
    CB Chevis Jackson - PV 
    CB Charles Godfrey - ASI 
    CB Terrell Thomas - ASI 
    CB Orlando Scandrick - IN 
    CB Terrence Wheatley - PW
    CB Trae Williams - PW ([URL="http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/mar/21/sp-belichick-works-out-usfs-stars/?sports-colleges-bulls"]Brett McMurphy, Tampa Tribune[/URL])
    CB Justin McKinney - CBI
    
    FS/CB Simeon Castille - CBI 
    
    SS Jamar Adams - ASI 
    SS Jamie Silva - ASI 
    
    ILB Curtis Lofton - CBI 
    ILB Jonathan Goff - ASI 
    ILB Thomas Williams - PW
    
    OLB Shawn Crable - ASI 
    OLB Stanford Keglar - PW 
    OLB Titus Brown - ASI 
    
    DE/OLB Vernon Gholston - PW 
    DE/OLB Quentin Groves - PV 
    DE/OLB Cliff Avril - CBI & PW
    
     
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    No Jersey Selected

    I'm surprised that only one OLman is on the list. And Cherilus is someone whom I wouldn't consider until the 3rd round.
     
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    u wouldnt consider him till 3rd or do you really believe hes a 3rd rounder? (cuz hes a first rounder in reality)
     
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