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....which will basically be about commenting on the real media's sunday columns...and some other stuff.

1. Once again, Mike Reiss showed why that he is head and shoulders above the rest of his local collegues. While Felger spent most of his column pimping for higher paid players, and Thomase was rewriting wire stories on rules changes, Reis was sitting down with the ACTUAL HC of the local franchise and offered some interesting insight into the mind of the residient genius for the fans, without inserting HIMSELF or his opinions into the article. How refreshing...and different.

2. I was very surprised to find the BB ISN'T a fan of the expansion of the game day roster to 47. I don't think any team will take advantage of the rule better than the Pats will, but it again is refreshing to see the coach felt that the game was becoming TOO specialized and the expansion of the roster will make it more so. I wouldn't have made that connection, and I doubt many others would have either. BB is just old time guy who likes to think that "real" football players can play the whole game. Would you expect less from a guy who values players who CAN do more than one thing?

3. I was also surprised to see that he WASN'T a big fan of the proposed change in the PI rule. Here's a change I would suggest. Let the official on the field call the PI. Let the booth official determine whether its major or minor. I think the booth official, with multiple views is in the best position to make the determination. That takes the onus off the on field guy, and he can just call the play. I don't think it would take more than 30 seconds for the booth ref to make a determination. That being said, I don't think that BB is half wrong when he states he is just looking for more consisitency from the refs when making the call and THAT would solve most of the problems.

4. Speaking of PI call, it suddenly occurred to me that I'd like to see a unsportsmanlike penalty called on offensive players who constantly ***** on just about EVERY pass play that they were held or interferred with. Think about it, can you think of a pass play that goes more than 15-20 yard that the WR DOESN'T jump up and complain. I think it sends the wrong message to the crowd, constantly inflaming them, even when most of the time the ref called it correctly. -

I would suggest a 5 yard unsportsmanlike call for whiners who constantly do it. The refs don't need the grief, the fans don't need more instigating, and the game would be more pleasant to watch. Let the coaches, coach, the players, play, and the refs, ref. It might be old age, but I'm getting tired players trying to ref the games. I think the players should take more responsibility for outcomes instead of trying to blame the refs for everything. Sounds like a presidential administration I can think of. OOPS, please ignore the last comment.

5. I found this fact to be very interesting. Daniel Graham, who just signed a contract that made him the second highest paid TE in the league, caught just 28 passes last season. On the other hand, only very highly paid Antonio Gates and Tony Gonzalez caught more passes than old friend Jerome Wiggins over the last 3 years, yet he was only able to manage a one year $1MM contract from the Jags. It got me to thinking about just how NFL player evaluation guys look at TEs. CLEARLY they MUST take how well a TE blocks as highly as they do in how he catches, otherwise it would be Wiggins getting a $5MM/yr LT deal instead of the barely above the vet minimum deal he got from the Jags. Its the only way you can figure this one.

6. Trying to figure out the situation on Ed Hartwell. If there was ever a low risk, high reward signing that fit a critical need, it would seem to be this one. Hartwell was a tackling machine playing ILB before he went down with a series of injuries. He is willing to sign a low cost "prove it" contract, and really wants to play for the Pats. IT'S ALL GOOD! Yet we have a guy with good "inside" contacts, Michael Holley, saying its not EVEN on the radar, at the same time others keep reporting talks have occurred.

Well if talks are underway, then why isn't the man aboard. Its not like his signing would effect the draft, nor does it seem like it would be a difficult contract to structure, and it isn't like other teams are exactly beating down his door. At one point I was figuring he wasn't recovered from his injuries, however from other posts its been pointed out that he played at the end of last season, and improved his play game by game until the season ended.

So he's relatively healthy, willing, and comes at the right price. WHY isn't he here? I can only conclude that Holley must be right. For some reason the Pats simply aren't interested. They must have info that we aren't aware of, and tells them to stay away. I just wish I knew what that info was.

7. With a month left to the draft, about all we have left to talk about is, will it be a CB, S, or LB taken at 24. Personally I haven't a clue, and BB isn't talking. What I do hope that with our 3 picks on the first day, that regardless of the order, those picks are used to get a S, CB, and LB. I also believe that a trade down is more likely than a trade up.

8. Speaking of trades, I also think that that it is more likely that we will trade for picks in the 2008 draft than more picks in this one. We are projected to pick up 4 comp picks in this year's draft. Next year, given our activitity in the top half of this year's FA market, we would be lucky to get ANY. So look for the pats to end up grabbing about 8 new prospects and adding 2 picks to next year's draft. For example, by trading out of the 24 spot into the top 10 in the second round the Pats should easily be able to pick up an extra 2nd round pick in next year's draft, likewise for the 28th pick.

9. Continuing on the draft, I find it very interesting that the Pats have done 2 things well in EVERY draft they have had under the BB administration. They have hit on EVERY first round pick, and they have found 2 or more IMMEDIATE starters in EVERY year from the draft.

2001 - Matt Light with the 1st pick they had at the top of the 2nd round, at the same time they got a starting OT in Greg Randall late in the draft.

2002 - They got Graham in the first - and Branch in the second

2003 - They got Warren in the first - Koppen, Wilson later on, as well as Randell Gay, who as an UDFA started a superbowl, ahead... of Assante Samuel who eventually became our franchise player .

2004 - They got Both Wilfork and Watson that year

2005 - Mankins and Kazur

2006 - Moroney and OCallahan

Granted some started due to injuries, and like Watson and OCallahan, some earned starting jobs, then GOT injured. The Pats also have had their share of misses in the draft as well. In fact too many to mention in this column. However the Bottom line is that the Pats CONSISTANTLY get 3-4 players EVERY year that significantly improve the team, and with the current state of FA, this is all you need, and most teams DON'T get. What is interesting is that you know the first round pick is going to play a lot, and there also will be at least one other guy will come out of no where to play a significant role... and usually its not who you think.

10. I know its been said, but its worth repeating. Besides I need to come up with 10 items. Has there ever been a better FA fit than AThomas and the NE Patriots. Even though Rodney Harrison was a perfect fit as well, we didn't perceive it as such when he first came. We knew he was a player, but we never thought he'd have the kind of impact on the field and off it that he did. AD seems in the same mold, and its obvious in so many ways.

Well thanks for your attention, and feel free to go back to your newspapers now. BTW - didn any of you watch SNL last night. I know I DIDN'T. ;)
 
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2001 - Matt Light with the 1st pick they had at the top of the 2nd round, at the same time they got a starting OT in Greg Randall late in the draft.
Robinson-Randall was drafted in 2000.

You're forgetting Seymour from '01.
 
Robinson-Randall was drafted in 2000.

You're forgetting Seymour from '01.

Thanks for the correction. BTW, are you available to edit these damned things. You know there is a rumor that occassionally I misspell things. ;)
 
1. Once again, Mike Reiss showed why that he is head and shoulders above the rest of his local collegues. While Felger spent most of his column pimping for higher paid players, and Thomase was rewriting wire stories on rules changes, Reis was sitting down with the ACTUAL HC of the local franchise and offered some interesting insight into the mind of the residient genius for the fans, without inserting HIMSELF or his opinions into the article. How refreshing...and different.

Ya it's called actual journalism. It seems to me that the other reporters have bought into belichicks guard and believe he will say nothing so they stop trying, but if you do your job properly as Reiss does BB will hook you up when the time is write and it has no baring on his team.
 
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5. I found this fact to be very interesting. Daniel Graham, who just signed a contract that made him the second highest paid TE in the league, caught just 28 passes last season. On the other hand, only very highly paid Antonio Gates and Tony Gonzalez caught more passes than old friend Jerome Wiggins over the last 3 years, yet he was only able to manage a one year $1MM contract from the Jags. It got me to thinking about just how NFL player evaluation guys look at TEs. CLEARLY they MUST take how well a TE blocks as highly as they do in how he catches, otherwise it would be Wiggins getting a $5MM/yr LT deal instead of the barely above the vet minimum deal he got from the Jags. Its the only way you can figure this one.

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The obvious proof in your pudding here is the Kyle Brady signing by Our New England Patriots.....while once upon a time he caught a lit of balls, he value to the patriots is indeed his superior blocking skills.

That is why he gets 2.5MM plus and Jermaine only got 1 year at 1MM.
 
Ya it's called actual journalism. It seems to me that the other reporters have bought into belichicks guard and believe he will say nothing so they stop trying, but if you do your job properly as Reiss does BB will hook you up when the time is write and it has no baring on his team.


Yup.....I guess "Do your Job" applies to more than just the players that play for BB & the NEP.

Mr Reiss has earned every story he has penned through hard work and integrity. Something his peers should strive for.

Mr Reiss will go very far in the world of sports journalism, enjoy him around here while we can.
 
pfk,

I was puzzled too by the Hartwell non-signing, and also the non-signing of ANY LBs reserves other than AD. He is a proposed starter.

I take that as a SIGN that makes sense, ONLY If he is preserving room to load up on LBs in the draft.

BB wouldn't be doing that for second day picks, either. He must have in mind to fill more than one roster spot reserve position with a high LB pick to groom or maybe more. The Pats typically carry 9 LBs. Tedy, AD, Rosey and Vrabes count for 4 and Izzo makes five. Woods looks like a find, ranking high in ST play and a valid DE/OLB conversion multi-year project With TBC walking and Don D retiring, that leaves potentially three or perhaps four openings if you believe that neither Alexander nor Mays are anything other than scrubs, or STs.

And I do believe that to be the case.

Looking back BB has anticipated the fans. He drafted a couple of OLs when we thought the OL was above mediocre but OK. He traded fro Dillon when many thought Antowain was acceptable. He drafted Maroney a year before Dillon got old. He drafted more TEs before Graham walked. In fairness, he sees these guys up close everyday in practice and has a better view to judge, especilaly comers, and guys starting to lose it.

The fans are behind the eight ball regarding most of these situations, including the Safety situation. He has drafted several, auditioned them, and chosen his young starters. Wilson and Sanders are both higher picks, and have beat out superbowl hero Antuan Harris, probowler Lawywer Milloy, Dexter Reid, Vic Greene, to mention a few. Its just not obvious to the fans yet.

Just as it was not obvious to the fans that CB is in the same boat. Last year Asante broke through. Fans are not sure if it was a one time thing but BB isn't. He tagged him. Hobbs is younger, showed flashes as a rookie, and is coming along, and rookie superbowl starter Randy Gay is still there, as a young startable CB. They have beaten out Brock, Warfield, and Law who was allowed to walk, (unlike Asante !), among others.

What do you think, Ken?

That's not to say we couldn't or won't draft CBs or S. Its just not all that damn urgent...
 
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Hartwell's non signing may say a lot about his health and prospects for future injuries.
 
I too was surprised at BB's dislike for expanding the gameday roster but upon reflection BB is against it because he staffs his team with versitile players so that the lower gameday limit doesn't hurt him (like when the useless Marquise Hill is perennially inactive) but DOES HURT opposing rosters full of specialists. Why give away an advantage?
 
5. I found this fact to be very interesting. Daniel Graham, who just signed a contract that made him the second highest paid TE in the league, caught just 28 passes last season. On the other hand, only very highly paid Antonio Gates and Tony Gonzalez caught more passes than old friend Jerome Wiggins over the last 3 years, yet he was only able to manage a one year $1MM contract from the Jags. It got me to thinking about just how NFL player evaluation guys look at TEs. CLEARLY they MUST take how well a TE blocks as highly as they do in how he catches, otherwise it would be Wiggins getting a $5MM/yr LT deal instead of the barely above the vet minimum deal he got from the Jags. Its the only way you can figure this one.

while I think teams value blocking ability in a TE I don't think you can use Wiggins as an example of anything because I think teams see him as more of a flash in the pan type guy, and I think people are weary of how long he can keep it up. I think our signing in Kyle Brady and the Dolphins releasing McMichael might be good examples for your theory.
 
PFK,
Nice post. On Hartwell, I have two thoughts.

One is that they're expecting Gardner to fill in at ILB. Until he was injured, Gardner was looking good as the starter next to Bruschi last year. But that doesn't explain why Gardner hasn't been signed. Not saying that Gardner is the run-stopping force that Hartwell is, but

Two: they're at least as concerned with coverage in the short zone as with run stopping. A 2-down ILB still needs some ability to cover and with Hartwell and Bruschi paired at ILB, there's a mismatch.
 
Just as it was not obvious to the fans that CB is in the same boat. Last year Asante broke through. Fans are not sure if it was a one time thing but BB isn't. He tagged him. Hobbs is younger, showed flashes as a rookie, and is coming along, and rookie superbowl starter Randy Gay is still there, as a young startable CB. They have beaten out Brock, Warfield, and Law who was allowed to walk, (unlike Asante !), among others.

What do you think, Ken?

That's not to say we couldn't or won't draft CBs or S. Its just not all that damn urgent...

I don't think the tagging of Asante is proof that BB is convinced that Asante is going to continue at the same level of play, it is merely BB and the Pats making sure that they maintain as much leverage as possible in this situation. BB/Pioli analyzed the CB landscape and decided that there wasn't a suitable more economical replacement and they are fully aware that his market value is potentially as high as it ever will be. If they can't reach an acceptable agreement for both sides they can flip him for future pick(s) and/or a player. We have the cap space, why would they just let him walk? That wouldn't make any sense. I don't neccassarily see it as an endorsement of his play as much as it is the Pats putting themselves in the best position possible.

I don't see how you can compare or even toss Law or Milloy's situation into this conversation, both were under contract and valued by the team - but the team needed the cap space and asked them to restructure their deals. Both players refused and the Pats cut them. In Law's situation, he was actually offered a contract (or an Insult) that would have paid him more during the past two seasons than he actually received on the open market.
 
Gay was signed after the 2004 draft as an UDFA, and in the 2000 draft Belichick drafted a guy named Tom Brady. Overall good work:rocker:
 
Hartwell's finished
 
1. Once again, Mike Reiss showed why that he is head and shoulders above the rest of his local collegues. While Felger spent most of his column pimping for higher paid players, and Thomase was rewriting wire stories on rules changes, Reis was sitting down with the ACTUAL HC of the local franchise and offered some interesting insight into the mind of the residient genius for the fans, without inserting HIMSELF or his opinions into the article. How refreshing...and different.
Reiss is given these opportunities by BB. The herald has all but shut off from BB because of their coverage of his personal life outside of football regarding his divorce and his alleged affair with a married women. BB will not give the herald the time of the day, while giving reiss all the access. This is BB way at getting back at the herald.
 
OOPS, please ignore the last comment.
I might if you weren't trying to be cute with "OOPS." I assume you wished to demonstrate your sympathies with the WRs antics you pretend to deplore.
 
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