My reponse to people who think Brady is in decline.

[Deus Irae]

well.....i just have to respectfully disagree

gasper saying that brady is not a verbal/personality leader, but instead a lead by example guy, is in line with what i said.....and the way i used Willie and rodney as examples

its ok to be wrong, deus......happens to the best of us

There's nothing to disagree with. Gasper did not back your claim. The proof is in your own quotes.

You're right, it's ok to be wrong. So either admit you were wrong and move on, or just drop it.

 

[james87654]

There's nothing to disagree with. Gasper did not back your claim. The proof is in your own quotes.

You're right, it's ok to be wrong. So either admit you were wrong and move on, or just drop it.

i stand by my assertion that you are in the wrong

just my humble opinion

 

[PATS16N0]

Questioning Tom's leadership is running full speed into the Twilight Zone, I don't care what spin is put on it.
It's so bad it makes my head hurt just thinking about how dumb it is. Plenty of other fan bases have said, plenty of times, something to the affect of "this team has no fire, I wish we had a guy like Tom."

I've seen it, and it's pretty well established all across the league. Tom Brady breaths fire and leads nobodies to high places.

Please just stop. It's embarrassing.

 

[james87654]

anyone who wants to listen to what gasper said can get it here

Oct 3rd......hour 3.......9 minutes in

http://boston.cbslocal.com/audio/felger-massarotti/

 

[Deus Irae]

i stand by my assertion that you are in the wrong

just my humble opinion

Well......

even Gasper ( a brady homer) commented that Tom has never been the most natural leader of a locker room

in the early years it was Willie, Rodney and the rest

Toms a good guy and has done amazing things for this franchise but he doesnt have the personality/"street cred" to "lead" in that sort of ray lewis way

which, in some ways, is a good thing

i was just echoing what gasper said on Felger and mazz......take it up with him

What Gasper actually said:

i always thought he was a great lead by example guy......but i never looked at him as someone who through his words was gonna fire up the team and get everybody behind him......"

It doesn't matter how respectfully you assert. You're just flat-out wrong.

 

[PATS16N0]

anyone who wants to listen to what gasper said can get it here

Oct 3rd......hour 3.......9 minutes in

http://boston.cbslocal.com/audio/felger-massarotti/

Hey, great. Tom Brady doesn't give Southern Baptist speeches before each game. Whoop dee doo.

He doesn't ride unicycles on to the field, either, or score touchdowns via cartwheel.

Start up the printing press.

 

[james87654]

Well......






What Gasper actually said:



It doesn't matter how respectfully you assert. You're just flat-out wrong.

lead by example is damning with faint praise.....especially in the context of the other things gasper said

anyone who wants to listen to what gasper said can get it here

Oct 3rd......hour 3.......9 minutes in

http://boston.cbslocal.com/audio/felger-massarotti/

 

[Deus Irae]

lead by example is damning with faint praise.....especially in the context of the other things gasper said

anyone who wants to listen to what gasper said can get it here

Oct 3rd......hour 3.......9 minutes in

http://boston.cbslocal.com/audio/felger-massarotti/

You
Were
Wrong

Your own quote kills your argument, and you're already walking it back by trying to interpret Gasper's quote as "damning with faint praise".

Seriously, let it die.

 

[james87654]

You
Were
Wrong

Your own quote kills your argument, and you're already walking it back by trying to interpret Gasper's quote as "damning with faint praise".

Seriously, let it die.

sorry deus

im entitled to my opinion and point of view.....even if you think its wrong

you are not the arbiter of all things patriots......even if you want to be

 

[Gronkowski123]

brady is declining. it's obvious...as he's getting older. it's only normal.
it's become worse because belichick is surrounding him with garbage lineman and average wr's who can't create separation. add the dumb playcalling and what you have is a recipe for disaster. our line is so terrible. it's similar to the texans trying to protect david " used " car back in the day...

 

[Deus Irae]

sorry deus

im entitled to my opinion and point of view.....even if you think its wrong

you are not the arbiter of all things patriots......even if you want to be

Again, this isn't an opinion issue. Your post was simply wrong. Flat out. Gaspar did not say what you said he did.

You can keep trolling the issue all you want, but you're never going to be right.

 

[james87654]

Again, this isn't an opinion issue. Your post was simply wrong. Flat out. Gaspar did not say what you said he did.

You can keep trolling the issue all you want, but you're never going to be right.

"even Gasper ( a brady homer) commented that Tom has never been the most natural leader of a locker room

in the early years it was Willie, Rodney and the rest

Toms a good guy and has done amazing things for this franchise but he doesnt have the personality/"street cred" to "lead" in that sort of ray lewis way

which, in some ways, is a good thing"


my post characterized what he said just fine......can "lead by example" on field.....cant in locker room

and then i allude to personality and ray lewis' vocal style

you're wrong......im sorry......im going to church tomorrow and im gonna pray for you

 

[PATS16N0]

 

[james87654]

i know, right?........he just never gives up.......i admire it

 

[Deus Irae]

"even Gasper ( a brady homer) commented that Tom has never been the most natural leader of a locker room

in the early years it was Willie, Rodney and the rest

Toms a good guy and has done amazing things for this franchise but he doesnt have the personality/"street cred" to "lead" in that sort of ray lewis way

which, in some ways, is a good thing"


my post characterized what he said just fine......can "lead by example" on field.....cant in locker room

and then i allude to personality and ray lewis' vocal style

you're wrong......im sorry......im going to church tomorrow and im gonna pray for you

You got it wrong. The quotes prove it. Keep posting, though. My family is laughing their asses off about your posts.

"Didn't he read what he was going to post?" is the clubhouse leader, for the record.

i always thought he was a great lead by example guy

Still in the quotes.....

 

[james87654]

You got it wrong. The quotes prove it. Keep posting, though. My family is laughing their asses off about your posts.

"Didn't he read what he was going to post?" is the clubhouse leader, for the record.

your family is sitting around observing our back and forth on an Internet message board?......tomorrow cant wait.....im gonna pray for you tonight

 

[Deus Irae]

your family is sitting around observing our back and forth on an Internet message board?......tomorrow cant wait.....im gonna pray for you tonight

No, I just showed the the thread. Now, we really need autoplay:

i always thought he was a great lead by example guy

 

[james87654]

No, I just showed the the thread. Now, we really need autoplay:

you are just acting loopy

anyone who wants to can look at my earlier posts in this thread and then listen to gasper here

http://boston.cbslocal.com/audio/felger-massarotti/

Oct 3rd......hour 3.......9 minutes in

and then decide if i mis-characterized what he said

the more the merrier

 

[Deus Irae]

you are just getting loopy

anyone who wants to can look at my first posts in this thread and then listen to gasper here

http://boston.cbslocal.com/audio/felger-massarotti/

Oct 3rd......hour 3.......9 minutes in

and then decide if i mis-characterized what he said

the more the merrier

i always thought he was a great lead by example guy

And I really don't care about your radio station, so stop trying to use Patsfans.com for free advertising.

 

[PATS16N0]

you are just acting loopy

anyone who wants to can look at my first posts in this thread and then listen to gasper here

http://boston.cbslocal.com/audio/felger-massarotti/

Oct 3rd......hour 3.......9 minutes in

and then decide if i mis-characterized what he said

the more the merrier

So after all of this your point is..... Tom Brady isn't Ray Lewis.
K, great, would read again