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Michael Silver (Yahoo): A Growing Disconnect Between Brady, Patriots

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  1. BradfordPatsFan

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    Looks like he's been reading some old threads on this board.

    A whole lot of conjecture, not much substance. Enjoy.

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    Yeah, lots of conjecture there.

    Unfortunately, it's one of the side effects of secrecy. . . .
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    This article should really be called A Growing Disconnect Between National Mediots and Local Beat Writers.

    It's frustrating, as a fan, who probably spends 20 hours a week reading/thinking/talking about the Patriots to read something by a national guy and just know its 100% conjecture - and not just that, but 100% BS.

    In an age where we have 3-5 updates a day from Reiss or Breer about this team, it's hard for a national guy to sneak uninformed, tired crap like this past us like this.

    I mean, really - how bad is Michael Silver at his job? If I can work a 9-5 job and still have time to read every Reiss/Breer piece, he couldn't find the time to do so before writing an article on the team they cover? Hack.
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    F Michael Silver. The next piece he writes worth reading will be his first. This worthless hack is nothing more than a pro-jock, anti-management mouthpiece, just like his illegitimate cousin Dan LaBastard.
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    Breer has already jumped on this bandwagon. Check out his latest blog post.


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    WEEI and Rapaport are also citing Silver's report. Sigh. Get the CBA done so we can move on with our lives.
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    I just love this part:

    Last February, five days before the Colts’ Super Bowl XLIV defeat to the New Orleans Saints, Indy owner Jimmy Irsay said of a contract extension, “You know it’s going to get done. I think it’s clear, and we’ll start on it this summer. … And it’ll be the biggest [contract] in history; there’s not much doubt about that.”

    Contrast that with the comments Kraft made to reporters in March at the NFL owner meetings in Orlando about a potential Brady extension: “Great things happen in life if you’re flexible and not rigid. … We’re balancing a lot of different factors in an unknown environment. We’re not sleeping. It’s just complicated.”​

    Irsay's style of negotiation is to drop his pants, bend over and wait to see what happens. Pretty astute business man, especially in light of Manning's desire to personally account for as much of salary cap (whatever form that takes under a new CBA) as possible.

    Kraft has taken a more measured public posture and, not all that surprisingly, the Patriots will likely be more cautious than others here. Still, at least for the time being, Manning's in the same situation as Brady - no contract after 2010. Maybe Peycheck feels better because his owner is an idiot ...
  7. HEY BRO! WHAT UP?

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    I just kind of perused the article because it just wasn't going anywhere. In fact, I really don't know or don't care how it ends. However, I feel Brady should be the highest paid player in the NFL. Despite him not having a "Brady" like season, he is still the most feared QB in the NFL.
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    Citing, yes, but no one is verifying. Because there's nothing to report. He read a couple quotes from Kraft and threw in his own conjecture.
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    Um, do you know people who know Tom?
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    Somewhere a troll village is missing it's troll idiot.
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    Silver hates the Patriots and loves Brady. In the PFW preseason poll, he has the Pats ranked 18th in his power poll (the mag itself has the Pats tying the Jets at 10-6 and getting the wild card because they lose the tiebreaker for the division). He calls Brady "Tommy", but he slams the Patriots quite a bit.

    He does have a relationship with Brady. So he could have inside information, but even if he did he would take a negative slant towards the Patriots even if Brady was far less negative in what he is telling Silver.
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    Excellent. The always-present "people close to Brady" suggest there may be some dissatisfaction with proceedings on his contract. You have to love anonymous sources not even tied to an organization or occupation.

    You have a public statement by Kraft, and the uncertainty of the CBA that may suggest a long-term deal is ill-advised at present but highly likely in the future. As far as Brady looking to Manning's deal, I doubt it as Brady's approach, accepting a lesser percentage of the overall salary cap, has won him more rings.
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    Yes, you called that one correctly. He's a troll. And an idiot. The gift that keeps on giving. :cool:
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    LOL! Gone when? 2016? Definitely not in the next few years. Never going to happen unless the Pats get two first rounders for him in a franchise deal where they decide not to give him an exclusive rights franchise tag.
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    BTW, Wilfork was upset with the negotiation process until he got his deal. So was Seymour before he got his deal with the Patriots. So was Randy Moss before he got his deal with the Patriots.

    Most elite players are upset when their team doesn't basically agree to their demands.
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    When was the last time Silver shared any inside or insightful information? I can't remember his stance on the ACL/MCL stuff, but I don't remember him being too prevalent in the media during that. I doubt there's much of a relationship. Brady has more of a relationship with Curran, and look how far that got him when reporting about Brady's knee injury - he had no inside info either.

    As for Silver - his bias is apparent then. He's trying to paint Kraft in a negative light to explain why Brady isn't signed. The idiotic thing is Peyton isn't signed either - so what good are Irsay's words? The truth is, Brady has a - to steal a Californication term - "broner" for Belichick, and I don't see him going anywhere. Just two weeks ago, Brady was talking about how they play for the greatest coach of all-time, and how they have to listen to him more. Does that sound like a guy ready to pack up and walk?
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    We are uneducated dumb people? GFY, douchebag. Yeah, there WILL be a team in LA in 2011 and Brady WILL go to Free Agency and WILL choose to sign with said fictional and conjectural LA team thus leaving the New England Patriots, the team to which he owes EVERYTHING he has in life, to dry.

    I'd love to hear some explanations as to why you are certain of the realization of so many things with a 0,1% chance of happening. Also an insight as to why you are the only person here who understands how professional athletes think would be nice.
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    Hmm.....let's see. We last won in 2005, and if my finger counting is correct, that would be five years ago that we last won the SB. Learn to count troll!
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    Wow, it has ben seven years already since February 6, 2005?

    Time flies in looney land.
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    His family is not there - one of Brady's children is in LA. Giselle and their child will go wherever he does. Brady's parents live in northern Cali.

    Giselle and Tom collectively have residences in southern Cali, northern Cali, Costa Rica, Boston, NYC and Brazil. To say he's locked down in Cali is a joke. When you're that rich, you can afford to live all over the place.
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    Thank Goodness Silver wrote a piece that's not all about the happy-happy times in joy-joy land. Now a national writer can be vilified for a little while. That will give the locals a break.
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    Brady and Giselle live in both Boston and Los Angeles and sometimes in Brazil. Gisselle has been bicoastal for years before she ended up with Brady (although she lived in NYC on the East Coast).

    Hey you got that point right. I guess you can't be wrong about everything.

    Really?!? Which team? Where will they play? Maybe they can play at Beverly Hills High School.

    The state has approved to build Los Angeles Stadium and they can have it built 30 months after a team commits to move there. So, if a team committed to moving to Los Angeles tommorrow, there wouldn't be a stadium available until the 2013 season.

    Stadium on Los Angeles Stadium

    It has slim to no chance of happening.

    Not true. Some owners haven't been too concern about overpaying since the CBA came up.

    Do we know that for sure? First, Brady may not want a Manning deal (he didn't want it the last time). The Colts are having some issue with other players like Robert Mathis because of contracts. They may not want to pay Manning too much over the highest paid player to avoid all their players wanting better deals.

    Yes, Brady could live in LA during the season. The Fox Sunday football broadcast is in an LA studio. He can retire and I am sure they would hire him in a second. Otherwise, there won't be a team in LA for at least three or four seasons from now. If there was going to be a team in LA next year, we would already know about it and we don't.

    BTW, did I fall asleep at work for two years and wake up in 2012? Has it already been seven years since 2005?
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    OMG. I just realized. . . . What if that team relocates to Brazil instead of LA?

    We're doooooooooooomed! :(




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    And you know how athletes think, Einstein? Learn how to write a plausible, fact-based argument and you might take a big step toward proving your omniscience. And you should learn to write before you start calling others dumb or uneducated. You sound like you've been spending too much time with household cleaners. Remember, huffing will damage your brain.

    Nobody claims Brady will work for free. He has never demanded to be the highest paid QB, and there is nothing to suggest he will ask to be the highest paid now. Review his previous, post-Super Bowl contract dealings and find some enlightenment. And you might want to find some authority, other than your delusional rant, supporting your tin foil hat conspiracy theory that Brady will stick it to Kraft out of loyalty to the union in the CBA bargaining process.
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    Don't forget Drew Brees isn't signed yet either and the first thing out of Tom Benson's mouth after the Super Bowl was that they were going to give Brees a new deal. So the three top QBs in the league are in line for new deals and none of them have made any progress on new deals and it is only Brady that has these speculations.
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    Great point. Really goes to show you what a lightning rod this team is in terms of the national media.
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    I will. It will be sad to see him go in 5-10 years.

    Hey, enjoy Brady playing for the mythical Los Angeles Unicorns who start playing in Los Angeles in 2011 coached by the Easter Bunny and owned by the Tooth Fairy. Seriously, you talk about a team in Los Angeles in 2011 as fact and you think you have a right to insult anyone's intelligence?
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    He hasn't had a relationship with Brady since shortly after Bridget announced her pregnancy and Tom and Giselle's relationship became public. It was already going south over spygate. Then he judgementally tore Tommy a new one over his personal indiscretion and that was the end of Silver's pipeline to TFB (which btw had to do with his being with SI which was no longer the case either...). I'm sure some in the Brady camp, whatever that may be, are frustrated for Tom contractually. Oddly I don't think Tom is. He's here to stay, he knows it, Kraft knows it, Belichick knows it, but that doesn't make for interesting copy. BTW Manning still hasn't inked a deal with Indy and Irsay is now concerned about being able to pay his other talent if a Manning deal is prohibitive...

    Oh, and FWIW geddie is a miserably little troll who only crawls out from under his rock when presented with an opportunity to spew his Brady's gone garbage.
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    Predictably , you always seem to take the side of anyone who seems to take an -ve approach to the whole team or player and call it objective all the time.
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