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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.The OP is dead on....sorry fan boys. I don't know how anyone can defend these whiffs in the 2nd round. Second rounders are supposed to end up in the starting lineup eventually, not get cut, benched, or jagged. Personnel bombed badly. They are so regimented in their type casting of WR and OLB that a whole world of talent gets passed by.
As far as Pees goes, he was ultraconservative. The question is/was...did the roster makeup force him to sit back, did BB direct this approach, or was it Pees. Clearly they were not on the same page. Considering the defensive roster is now loaded with #1 picks with more likely on the way, it is a good bet that personnel limited Pees during his time here.
I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that the 31 other teams draft picks all turned out to be starters. Damn, we must be terrible to have the likes of Oakland and Buffalo doing a better job drafting than us.
I bet if you compare our "busts" to other teams....we would have the least without a doubt in my mind. We are set up for the future atm, how many other teams that were in the playoffs had a young team and **** load of picks in the draft? Not many, if any.
"Fan boys"? Wtf is this...Video games?
Don't forget Vernon G the pass rushing demon!
Many ppl here wont admit it, but management in New England has been pretty bad in recent years.
-Patriots trade up and get the Packers pick. Patriots use it on WR Chad Jackson, a monumental BUST. Packers then selected star WR Greg Jennings. We traded up, they traded down. We end up with nothing, they end up with a superstar. Gotta love the hindsight
-Patriots have a wealth of draft picks and "own the draft". Instead of using 1 in the first round, we keep trading down over and over. We couldve had almost any player outside of the Top 10 that we wanted. We end up with Darius Butler (BUST) and Ron Brace (Barely sees the field). Meanwhile, Green Bay ended up with Pro Bowler Clay Mathews. Our 5 year search for a stud OLB is still going on...
Mike Reiss said:The Patriots will trade #26 (1st Round) and #162 (5th Round) in exchange for Green Bay's #41 (2nd round), #73(3rd round) and #83 (3rd round)
The #Patriots will send their 1st of four 3rd round picks (73) to JAX in exchange for 2010 2nd rd pick and a 7th round pick this year (232)
-Patriots have Dom Capers as Defensive assistant. He obviously wanted to be D-Coordinator but that spot was taken by Dean Pees. A couple years later, Pees is gone due to poor performance and Capers moved on to Green Bay where he turned their 20something ranked defense into the 2nd ranked defense in the NFL. This is poor management on BB's behalf. Why did it take him so long to realize that Dean Pees wasnt working and promote Capers?
We couldve easily had Greg Jennings, Clay Mathews, and Dom Capers. Instead we ended up with Chad Jackson, Ron brace, Darius Butler, and BB over-extending himself as a coach.
Bad scouting/drafting, bad management, call it whatever you want. Green Bay is probably starting to look at New England, the same way we look at the Raiders.
Sorry you can't deal with the facts of the OP...
I'm grading the 3 Pats involved...
Jackson....F
Butler....D
Brace....C
I'm grading the Packers involved...
Jennings.....A
Mathews ......A
The OP lists players and how they came to be on each team...not draft histories of the world. I'm giving it up for the Pack. They definetly dominated these transactions.
As far as Pees and Capers....I don't care
Sorry you can't deal with the facts of the OP...
I'm grading the 3 Pats involved...
Jackson....F
Butler....D
Brace....C
I'm grading the Packers involved...
Jennings.....A
Mathews ......A
The OP lists players and how they came to be on each team...not draft histories of the world. I'm giving it up for the Pack. They definetly dominated these transactions.
As far as Pees and Capers....I don't care
This is a truly terrible thread.
This is a truly terrible thread.
This is a truly terrible thread.
Many ppl here wont admit it, but management in New England has been pretty bad in recent years.