Gator Mike
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I can't see Mcdaniels leaving Foxboro he loves the players and his family loves the area.
I can see him staying with a new title or leaving for say the Giants job.
Yeah, I have to hand it to McDaniels and Patricia. After the KC debacle, I was 100 percent on board with replacing the Coordinators. Fast forward 8 or so weeks and they've been magnificent in both concept and play design. Serves me right for overreacting to 4 performances in a regular season that is 16 games long.As a Gator fan, I'd rather them hire a big name with a history of winning and leave my pro team's OC alone.
Can't say I disagree with you... but how realistic is a "big name" hire from Florida?As a Gator fan, I'd rather them hire a big name with a history of winning and leave my pro team's OC alone.
Florida is traditionally an elite name, but the program is in a bit of a mess right now and they won't have much patience to turn things around. He's already failed at one opening. There will probably be some respectable nfl jobs open, perhaps with the Giants or maybe down in Atlanta with a solid qbs and wr corps in place, not to mention a new England connection. Just my 2 cents.
Good riddance if he leaves. I'm not anti-McDaniels or anything, but I've realized over the years that for ~75% of the season the OC isn't calling the plays.
Brady does as he pleases, as long as the players around him know the offense. He gets the final say of every play call after he checks out the defense and If I'm not mistaken, when we run the hurry up, he calls every play. The initial playcall is only the initial playcall. If Tom doesn't agree after seeing the defense then it won't be the play he ultimately runs.
The OC, in this system, is another set of eyes in the film room to find tendancies in the opposing defense.
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Sure, we could certainly do worse than McDaniels, ....
It's the same story every year for OC's playing with great QB's. They get too much credit because for some reason the greatness of the QBs is underrated when their name gets tossed around in coaching talks. How successful and beloved of a playcaller was he in Denver or St. Louis? I don't recall him being mentioned for more HC jobs when he wasn't coaching Tom Brady.
First year back in NE? CLE wants him to be their coach.
There won't be an OC bringing a new system to a 38 year old QB. The QB will educate the OC in New England's system and the train will continue to roll until Brady can't sling it.
The only OC I'll care about is the one in charge when and if JG takes over.
Good riddance if he leaves. I'm not anti-McDaniels or anything, but I've realized over the years that for ~75% of the season the OC isn't calling the plays.
Brady does as he pleases, as long as the players around him know the offense. He gets the final say of every play call after he checks out the defense and If I'm not mistaken, when we run the hurry up, he calls every play. The initial playcall is only the initial playcall. If Tom doesn't agree after seeing the defense then it won't be the play he ultimately runs.
The OC, in this system, is another set of eyes in the film room to find tendancies in the opposing defense.
Our offensive growth has 100% correlated to the growth of Tom Brady. It improved every season with Weis, improved every season with McDaniels, improved with BO'B (kind of skipping 2007 as it was a culmination of everything that could go right actually going right), and has once again improved with McDaniels back, this time back to 2007 levels of greatness.
Sure, we could certainly do worse than McDaniels, but the success of Tom Brady will determine how good the offense is, not whoever the coordinator is.
It's the same story every year for OC's playing with great QB's. They get too much credit because for some reason the greatness of the QBs is underrated when their name gets tossed around in coaching talks. How successful and beloved of a playcaller was he in Denver or St. Louis? I don't recall him being mentioned for more HC jobs when he wasn't coaching Tom Brady.
First year back in NE? CLE wants him to be their coach.
There won't be an OC bringing a new system to a 38 year old QB. The QB will educate the OC in New England's system and the train will continue to roll until Brady can't sling it.
The only OC I'll care about is the one in charge when and if JG takes over.
Brady and BB have a ton of input in the design of plays. Josh or BB call the plays. Brady sets the protection schemes and has the authority to audible to a different play.You couldn't be more wrong if you physically tried.
Do you think every time Brady audibles at the line it actually means something? It doesn't. He could sit there talking for ten seconds and it might not mean sh*t. Fake audibles are part of the game.
Brady has the power to alter routes and plays but, funnily enough, guess who designs those plays...JOSH MCDANIELS. Not only that, but they are scripted within that game plan...that Josh McDaniels designs. Brady of course has an input...as does Belichick...but unless BB drastically disagrees with the game plan he is pretty comfortable with McDaniels.
Those plays that Brady audibles to are plays he is TAUGHT to audible to.
I'm sorry but if he could work with Matt Cassel to take us to an 11-5 season, then I have every confidence in this guys ability. He had an amazing season. Does having a great QB help? Of course it does. You could be the best OC to ever live and it your OL can't block, or your QB can't throw, it won't amount to anything.
Yeah, I have to hand it to McDaniels and Patricia. After the KC debacle, I was 100 percent on board with replacing the Coordinators. Fast forward 8 or so weeks and they've been magnificent in both concept and play design. Serves me right for overreacting to 4 performances in a regular season that is 16 games long.