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    Can Demps be worse than Woodhead at blocking?

    He definitely can be effective in the slot and screen game in time given what I saw at Florida.
     
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    Woodhead's a pretty decent blocker, from what I've seen.
     
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    Demps is our second chance at Dexter Mccluster, a binky of mine back in the 2010 draft, except I think Demps can be better and is way faster/quicker. KR/RB/slot WR.
     
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    And here I was, thinking that Blitzers needed to be blocked before they kill the QuarterBack!! Silly me!! [​IMG]

    Boy, is Tom Brady gonna be relieved to hear this!! [​IMG]
     
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    By the way...

    I still can''t BELIEVE Mad Bill beat out all 31 teams for Demps!! :D WOOT, WOOT!!! :rocker:
     
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    Agree to disagree. I think he's a willing blocker but at his size he's just not a good blocker. Kevin Faulk at the same height has so much more mass and that low center of balance that he can stick a bigger guy like MJD on Merriman as a famous example. Woodhead will stick his helmet in there and buy you a half second but he is by no means a good blocker.
     
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    There ya go: Gentlemen can agree to disagree...and even reach a compromise!! :D

    "Uncanny" Danny WoodHead is "a pretty decent blocker" AND "by no means a good blocker." :)

    I can live with that: He's scrappy, he's tough, and he makes the most of what he's got.

    He is by no means a Vortex, and he's almost always "buy you an half second", which is usually just enough...And I'm sure we can also agree that he will occasionally get blow UP...as do we all!! :D
     
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    Well said. I think if you watch Demps he seems willing to stick a hat on somebody. So I don't think he'll be any worse than Woodhead as a blocker and his big play potential should he be able to pick up the playbook is immense. Woodhead came in and was making plays a week after getting here and looked seamless out there. The kid is far from the most physically talented but he has to be one of the smartest players football wise to do that with this offense and at such a young age. The story goes John Lynch came in and learned the defense in an afternoon but he was a 12 year vet.

    If Demps has the smarts he could be a star in this offense. If he doesn't he'll join the list of Tate, Price and others who had the athletic ability but not the smarts.
     
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    Does anyone know what round he would have been projected to go in?
     
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    McCluster is around 5'8"-5'9" and 170#, based both on his NFL.com profile and his NFLdraftscout pre-draft listing. He had 4.4 speed. He was taken #36 overall by the Chiefs in 2010. Another 2nd round guy who comes to mind is Randall Cobb, who is slightly bigger at 5'10" 190#, also with 4.4 speed. Demps is rawer than both but has better speed and pure physical ability. It will be interesting to see how he develops.
     
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    It's pure Speculation, of course, as any Projections would've steeply discounted his Value, because he'd made it clear that he was focused on the Olympics, with no particular plans to play any more FootBall.

    But if he wasn't an Olympian?? [​IMG]

    Solid 2nd Rounder, if you ask me: Raw or not, that Speed is intoxicating.

    Again...

    A solid...2nd...Rounder!! :eek:

    And that, Ladies and Laddies, when all 32 teams showed interest ~ and rightfully so!! ~ is why I am utterly astonished that Bill The Mad (Genius) was able ~ with pure Straight Talk ~ to pull this off!! :rocker:
     
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    You make some interesting points, as usual. Demps was projected by most to be a mid-late rounder, probably going in the 3rd-5th range. But ...

    1. 32 teams showed interest in Dempts after the Olympics. Interest probably would have been greater if he had gone through the Combine and Pro Day workouts. Competition drives the bidding price up.

    2. Speed drives interest. Consider Darius Heyward-Bey (#7 overall in 2009). Jacoby Ford went from a late round pick to the 4th round based on his blazing speed. Stephen Hill went from a mid round pick to a top 50 pick. It's hard to tell what Demps putting up a 4.2 40 would have done to his draft stock, especially if he had worked out with RBs or receivers at the Combine and showed any aptitude.

    3. Ryan Broyles was projected as a mid- to late-round pick coming off his ACL injury, but was picked #54 overall in the 2nd round by Detroit to be an all-purpose weapon.

    No one will ever know where Demps would have been drafted, but I think it's reasonable to assume that he probably would have gone higher than projected. As we've seen so often in recent years - the Josh Gordon situation being the latest example - teams are willing to reach when they have a need. If Demps had been eligible to enter the Supplemental Draft and had worked out, how high would he have gone? I'm guessing 3rd round at least. So the way I look at it, the Pats got a high supplemental draft pick without having to give up a pick from 2013.
     
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    Back in January I had us taking him in the fourth round and that was right before he announced he was focusing on the Olympics. Though, an impressive combine, and he would have had one, would have had a great effect on his draft stock.
     
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    That sounds about right as a projection. That's where Jacoby Ford went in 2010. 3rd round would not have been a huge shock - guys like Brandon Hardin made the late-round to 3rd round jump pretty easily based on athleticism and upside. 2nd round would have been a stretch, but by no means out of the question. Teams take whoever they want. Just ask Tavon Wilson.
     
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    Thank for that. Research i had was he was a 3rd/4th rounder who had the potential to do a Poe/Gholston/Hill when he hit the combine. I personally agree that a 4.2 something in the 40 and the guy is going mid 2nd-early 3rd just because someone is going to take a bet on a guy and hope they can turn him into another CJ2K, open the hole and let the guy run to daylight.

    Great pick up by the pats i like some others have mentioned am treating it like we had another high 3rd that we used to take a chance on a guy with rediculous athletic ability.

    Here's hopeing he makes the team and contributes some explosive plays.
     
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    Well if he busts, I am sure the naysayers will use it as evidence against BB's "drafting" record.

    ;)
     
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    Reading this thread made me think of an old rock and roll lyric from the 70's or 80's that sums up the Demps transaction. (which is something given I often find myself standing in front of the fridge trying to remember what it was I got up for ;) )

    "something for nothing....and the chips for free".

    I'm now frustrated. I can picture the damned video, but can't remember the damned song or who sang it.
     
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    "Money For Nothing" by Dire Straits.

    And I thought it was the "chicks" who were free.
     
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    Chicks are never free.

    But you are right.
     
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