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  1. QB12

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    Going on sometime now. Don't mean to be impolite. But its a simple question. I'd like a simple answer.

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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    Yes. However, donations pay for server resources, which in turn increase performance. I can't help noticing that your name is blue...
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    +1

    But...if you stuck around for the second half, Ian diagnosed the problem and got things moving swimmingly. That's what preseason's about, right? :)
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    + 2

    Besides helping Ian with the site, you also get an awesome bag of stuff from the Pro Shop: http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...eive-free-pats-t-shirt-page4.html#post1462603

    How can everyone who is here and a Pats fan not have donated yet?
  5. SoCalPatsfan90

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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    lmfao... attack of the "we're better than you's".

    In QB12's defense, and as most of the postes in the thread should remember, it's not like this is a new phenomina. Last season, the season before that, etc... all have had similar issues.

    So while donations likely do go towards server resources, they don't just magically resolve resource issues. Server admins do, if it's not a resource issue. So just because you've donated, don't start harping like this guy is a shmuck for not donating yet... cause guess what... I haven't yet either.
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    Totally agree, it takes a lot of resources to maintain the hardware infrastructure given the amount of traffic that we generate during the games.

    Every one who has not donated, please re-consider. It is a win-win situation.
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  7. SoCalPatsfan90

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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    I have a wife, and 18mo old and live in southern california. What I don't have is a 6 figure income, and there are more important things in life to me than tossing 18$ to a site I frequent.

    Now, that's to say, I fully intend on donating down the road, but do not have the discretionary funds atm.
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    Can never understand people whining when they get free stuff....
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    I understand that some people just cannot afford even the $18 per year and that is why Ian is keeping the site free for those who cannot donate.

    What I don't understand is someone calling people who have donated the "we're better than you crowd", when they are helping to support a site that does cost money to run.

    Perhaps saying nothing makes one sound smarter than saying something.

    PS. I cannot believe that all those that have not donated are in the situation that they cannot not afford to do so.
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    While I agree with those pointing out it's somewhat comical for those who don't pay for it to complain about service, it remains to be seen if donations for server resources is truly the solution to the problem. Numerous "fixes" haven't worked out for over a year (and through a couple of upgrades) now. Any time the board attracts more than several hundred visitors it begins to unravel.

    I have a feeling the answer lies not in increasing the server capacity, or clearing another table, since we always seem to exceed capacity in peak demand periods, but rather to restrict the number of visitors during peak periods or at least restrict their access to game threads (or draft day threads). It's lurkers hitting refresh on top of the kids posting every two seconds like they're in chat that fries a server.

    Is there any way the game thread could occur in the game thread archive as opposed to on the main board. And access to that area on game days be limited to logged in members with posting priviledges?
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  11. SoCalPatsfan90

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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    Guess that goes for several people in this thread huh?

    Also, your sarcasm detector must be broken. Because the label of "we're better than you crowd" was a sarcastic remark to the responses the OP was getting. So that bolded comment really does apply to several people here.

    And you're right, not everyone is in a position to not donate. Some just don't want to, and it was a simple question which didn't require the responses he got. Did it?
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    Exactly!!! i know ther are "blue people" on here that can afford to pay a measly $18 dollars.

    I'm sorry but if $18 dollars a year, less than 5 cents per day is a hardship you probably shouldn't be on this site, you should be working another job.

    Or maybe there should be $5, $10 and $18 dollar memberships. You get more services, the more you pay the more you get. If you don't pay you just get to post no video arcade etc.
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    Probably the best solution, and a pretty good description of the overall problem as well.
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    i have a friend who recently couldn't take a job because she didn't have the $75 deposit for her uniform. times are tough. let's not hassle folks who might feel that $18 is something they'd rather spend on their kids. and if they have the money and just don't want to help out, well, as my 90 yo mom would say, "that's between them and God." (the latter comment was a joke--just in case!)
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    That sucks. Could they not take the deposit out of her first check? :(
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    i'm not a techie, so i don't know if you're right, but what you say sure makes sense to me. sounds like a great idea!
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    fair question. she asked and they wouldn't give her an advance until she was there six months.
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    Wow, that's really disappointing. Sorry for her.
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    come on guy. that's rubbing salt in some pretty sore wounds. a lot of folks can't find jobs in this economy and this board might be a place they come for a few minutes of distraction.
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    (i gave her the $75)
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    Well then lol, good on ya :) I like hearing stories like that lol. Anyways, we dragged the topic a bit OT, but oh well lol.
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    I'm not trying to rub it in at all. Last night when i couldn't get on the forum i was trying to think of a way to solve this. I understand its really hard out there and some people who feel they cannot afford to, but the only solution i could think of was getting more people to join so Ian can afford to up grade. I'm sure there are a number of people on this forum that 18 bucks wouldn't be a hardship. Those are the people i'm really talking about. At the same time i agree with Darryl people who are here for free shouldn't be complaining about the service, thats why i made the remark about getting another job.

    I like what MO LEWIS ROCKS came up with limit visitors on game day.
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    I totally respect that "discretionary income" just isn't a reality for plenty of people. But similarly, everybody should realize that Ian puts huge amounts of time, labor and money into this board...and that the better he makes it, the heavier the burden gets as patsfans.com becomes THE gametime destination.

    So let's skip the whining on both sides and stick to the constructive suggestions.

    The trick with Mo's suggestion of moving the gameday threads to a restricted area is that you still have to keep the hordes from visiting, posting etc. on the main board or you haven't really changed the load. Realistically, 2 parallel game threads would probably arise. Clever ways around this?
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    Why are kids always more important than adults? :confused:
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    Well, they're louder. And cuter?

    (Realistically, in these contexts "kids" simply symbolize "grownup responsibilities that have to take precedence." Fair enough.)
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    Yeah, it's not all that cleaver either, it's called having rules and moderators who enforce them... Only members can start threads, and I believe you need a certain minimum number of posts to restrict the trolls. If there are clearcut penalties for breaking the rules and the mods enforce them then there is no competing problem.
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    So does paying the $18 give someone the right to complain without being called out for it? I think not. Ian is doing the best he can and errors are going to occur. These errors are frustrating for all whether their names are in blue or red. I'm confident things will get worked out.
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    heh heh...good question...as a dad of six year olds i've concluded that it's their world and i just live in it...not that i'm complaining...:)
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    i think everyone who posts here has a right to express their concerns about the board and make suggestions for improving it, as long as they do so politely and recognizing the work that goes into making it the great place it is.

    agree re MLR's suggestion.
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    Re: Is this Board Going to Lock up During Every Game?

    OK...so as a moderator, how should I enforce a rule against hundreds (thousands?) of users hitting refresh on the game thread over and over? Because that's the bulk of the traffic.

    Troll posts are a totally separate issue, they don't crash the server.

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