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  1. CrazyDave

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    I believe they are starting to gel, or whatever you want to call it.
    Gutsy performance on D yesterday, and nice ground game.
    2 things that you need this time of year.
    If they could just get healthy.
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    Re: I think this team is coming together.

    The Bills are horrible and we looked lack luster esp on offense, not really a gauge of much yesterday except we still arent in top form.
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    Re: I think this team is coming together.

    For a second I took you seriously, but then I realized that you really are "crazy".;) Seriously, nothing about yesterday convinced me that the Pats are "coming together".
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    Re: I think this team is coming together.

    No but a win is a win is a win.

    If they team can hang in there you never know. Hopefully from week 16 on the east is done, and those hurting can get some rest.


    It is opening up now very nicely, but there are some teams there that look very very good.
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    Re: I think this team is coming together.

    That's the spirit.
    I thought they showed some composure, and considering the D-Line situation, well, I guess I'm just a "Glass half full" kinda guy.
    How many rushing yards did we have?
    How many sacks?
    Turnovers?
    Oh well.
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    Re: I think this team is coming together.

    IMO there is no evidence to support this.
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    I really like how this Defense is coming together....all those sacks yesterday had to be so much fun for them, and now they are hungry and will be coming back for many more:D weeeee!
    I like how Randy was cutting across the middle, and Wes was going long on some offensive plays....just want to see some more tight end action....and Brady and Aiken need some good practice time together.
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    Back to back games with the opponents scoring only 10points. NOt back for a x-mas gift. Should it keep going for the next couple of games, we'd be better off than anything else. But yes, Health is the key right now. Its fair to say im a happy camper!!
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    Re: I think this team is coming together.

    And, like, did'nt Vollmer start at RT?
    I don't recall Brady being sacked even once. But maybe my memory is bad.
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    Re: I think this team is coming together.

    I agree, but at least they aren't "coming apart" either.

    I thought the Pats were "coming together" going into the NO game, and they fell apart against the Saints and Dolphins. Now they seem to have regrouped. They aren't looking pretty, but they've salvaged the season with 2 consecutive ugly wins against Carolina and Buffalo (better than the egg Minnesota laid against Carolina yesterday). They are in position to win the division and make the playoffs, which at least gives them a chance to "come together" and do some damage.
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    Re: I think this team is coming together.

    I'm gonna defend the OP and say that, in general, I agree with him.

    I liked what happened yesterday for the Pats. They played with some attitude on D, got a couple of sacks, made some key stops and got by without important players on both sides of the ball. I'm encouraged by the progress of the running game and am trying not to get my hopes up too high about Taylor's return; keeping him on the roster and not putting him on IR was a gamble and I have a feeling it could pay off significantly over the next six weeks.

    As for the talk that "it was only Buffalo," tell that to the defending SB Champions who lost to "only" Oakland and KC and to all the other teams that have been knocked off by teams that weren't supposed to show up this year. This was a Division Game on the road in the cold. I'm happy with the win and I'm happy with what went down for our guys at The Ralph.

    I'm reserving judgment on whether this team is "coming together" and want to see what happens on the field against Jacksonville and at Houston. The last thing this team needs to do is "rest" if it clinches the Division next week; their best chance of making noise in January is to come into the playoffs pissed off and on a surge.

    And, yes, I want the number four seed and I want our guys to go into Indy, catch them after a bye and after playing for nothing for a month and smash them in the mouth before they know what happened, like we used to do in 2001.
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    There's alot of 7-7 teams that wish they had a win yesterday. Missing 4 starters, holding a home team to 10 points...absolutely take this win. Seems Pats fans are too worried about style points. Wins are difficult and the Pats have 9....this is a good thing.
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    Re: I think this team is coming together.

    You are right, but where is the evidence to support that the team is comming together?
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    Re: I think this team is coming together.

    Right. And unlike the 2007 team, this is not a "style" team. If this team is going to do anything in January, it's going to have to do it like the 2001 team did; by smashing people in the mouth.
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    Re: I think this team is coming together.

    In the third quarter of the Colts game, this team looked like the team to beat in the AFC. It's defense was clicking, and its offense was looking like vintage 2007.

    Since then, both sides of the ball have regressed. It's just a question of a) can the coaching staff adjust to the way they are being played b) will the team be healthy?
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    Re: I think this team is coming together.

    How many points do we have to win by so people stop complaining? I guess wins just aren't good enough anymore but hell I'll take them :D
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    As I said in my otherwise supportive response to the OP, we won't know whether the team is coming together until we see what happens these next two weeks. But, I like what happened yesterday in Buffalo. It was a gritty performance by a depleted D against a division opponent on the road in December. the running game looked like it might actually be able to be a force, especially if a healthy Taylor returns ready to play. It's a game on which they can build and, given the state of affairs in the AFC and NFL this year, it is by no means too late to build to a strong finish.

    There's been a lot of chat out here today and yesterday about "who we want to play" in the Wild Card round (assuming we get there). My answer is simple.

    It doesn't matter who our opponent is. If we come into the Playoffs angry and on a surge, we'll do what Pats teams have done all decade in Foxboro in January and send the other guys home in a basket; if we squeak by with one win over the next two weeks, we'll be one and done.
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    I dont get wrapped up about beating the bills.We have owned them.Its about the elite teams.The only way to beat Manning is by putting heavy pressure on him.
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    I still feel the same way about this team as I did the whole season, cautiously optimistic. A couple wins over bad teams isn't going to change my opinion drastically. The offense is still awful in the 2nd half. The defense is still great against bad teams, and who knows against the better teams. Anything can happen in the playoffs, but it's kinda worrisome that the 2nd half woes on offense still aren't fixed.

    If Neal, Brady, Warren, Wilfork can be healthy for the playoffs and we have no more injuries, I will feel alot better. Brady may be struggling but come playoff time there's still no QB I'd rather have. Playcalling needs to be better, with BB/Brady you never know they can always turn that around.
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    I don't think this team is coming together. This team had 2 statement games, they almost beat the Colts and lets not talk about the Saints. Until this team beats a REAL team, they aint **** I'm sorry but we can play these homer games all we want and continue to look stupid as they lose to good teams. I hope they go on a run in the playoffs, but if they lost yesterday we'd be in meltdown mode over a loss to terrible Buffalo.

    I don't care how they win, what bothers me is the same issues persist. Defense giving up late drives, offense doing NOTHING in the second half, 3 points? My goodness. When will it ever improve if it hasn't already? The same problems persist, and all we can hope for is this team to get hot in the playoffs.
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    Since the team was never falling apart, there is no need for coming together.

    The only thing that they are definitely coming together from is all the nonsense regarding Moss, Thomas, Guyton, Burgess and Aiken. All that ridiculous kid's stuff and media hype is now behind us as THE TEAM has circled the wagons and come together.

    This supposedly weak run defense played without Wilfork and Warren and still beat a solid running team. That also constitutes coming together.

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    It was a gutsy permance considering the injuries. This team won't

    come together until it can put more healthy bodies on the field.
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    The defense played nice, but they did the same thing with wilfork and Warren in.

    the offense isn't exactly effected by injuries to the DL, so again the offense just continues to falter in the second half. I'm not being a pesimist, just telling it like it is. If a W like yesterday makes you confident you'll see this team dominating Jan. Idk what to tell ya.
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    Clay Matthews would have been nice on this team right now:(,Still cant believe they didnt draft this guy.
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    The thing is though, 'statement' games haven't been needed by any other recent super bowl champ. Last year the Steelers were trounced by the best regular season team and lost to the Giants/Eagles too. They just beat Baltimore who was good but not great. In '07 the Giants lost to us and swept by Dallas, the best teams they played. In '06 the Colts didn't really have any mind blowing victories (didn't have to play any of the top 4 seeded teams the whole reg season). Same case with '05 Steelers and I'd venture to say even our '04 team didn't have a 'statement' win in the regular season, we were crushed by Pittsburgh the #1 seed.
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    get... Over.... It
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    Hey emoney, i am but i just hope win or lose that this team in the offseas0n makes some changes and starts drafting pass rushers or get one through FA
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    Perhaps we should have drafted a passrusher instead of Vollmer.

    We had a fine draft. We do need to get over the choices of Chung and Brace instead of Matthews and Laurinitis. It's not like they are busts. And many of you wouldn't have signed Banta-Cain or given him such a strong role. Belichick did indeed pick up a pass-rusher who he figured to be as good as those this board was proposing without using the 23 or 34. Some of the rooks were better this year than Banta-Cain. Some weren't.

    I will duck after I post.

    However, I would be fine if we didn't DRAFT a linebacker and found another Banta-Cain in free agency. After all, the high pick would then be used for a another top need like a starting OG or TE if Watson doesn't sign.

    OBVIOUSLY, we need to draft a top DE or two. Belichick will agree. He has no problems using top picks for defensive linemen or offensive linemen for that matter. I'd be fine with three linemen (including perhaps a TE) and a running back in our first four picks.

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    You say regressed...I say flawed.
    IMHO....BB and company have built a flawed team.
    1) The failure of the OLine has prevented the offense from expanding. Yesterday, the Pats went 2 tight ends for 80% of the snaps, yet the TE position had zero catches. Max protection for Brady because they want to keep him healthy...and the right side of the line has been horrible all year. Sure, two newbies got the start yesterday, but C, RG, and LT have been weaknesses all year. No push on short yardage runs and unable to hold ground in pass protection
    2) Depth a WR....there is none. Imagine if Moss went down
    3)Pass rush...Failed FAs and draft neglect...you know the story

    Expectations were high going into the first game. BB succeeded in building a roster that can compete vs the AFC East...run heavy, weak passing teams. But the talent is just not ready to compete against competent passing teams.
    Frankly , I'm happy that the Pats are still in the hunt. Watching other teams play each other every week, it is clear that the Pats roster is lacking in many areas. I see WRs breaking tackles, RBs zigzagging, guards pulling, DEs winning one on one battles, QBs rolling out, DBs dominating, returnman taking to the endzone....but I don't see much greatness on the Pats roster. I don't see a physical freak that is a man amongst boys...So to be 9-5 with 2 to go is pretty darn good considering the lack of playmakers on this team.

    3.....2....1.....
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    you play who is on the schedule
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