I Suspect The Roster Is Almost Set

[Synovia]

Bruschi clearly had little left in the tank and many of us felt he was on the bubble. But with his history, no one was going out on a limb and outright predicting that he would be cut or would retire. It was always a possibility, and it's probably for the best that it's happened, but certainly no one should be "eating crow" because of it.\

Actually, quite a few of us were saying Brushci probably wouldn't make the 53.

 

[mgteich]

very true...........

Actually, quite a few of us were saying Brushci probably wouldn't make the 53.

 

[pencilneckgeek]

Bruschi's retirement makes the roster easier. Somehow, however, there are still a few spots that I can't seem to ink in.

Offense (24)

QBs (2) - Brady, Walter
RBs (5) - Maroney, Morris, Taylor, Faulk, BJGE
WRs (6) - Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis, Edelman, Aiken
TEs (3) - Baker, Watson, Thomas
OL (8) - Light, Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Kaczur, Wendell, Vollmer, OBurger

Defense (26)

DL (8) - Seymour, Wilfork, Brace, Warren, Burgess, Green, Wright, Pryor,
LB (8) - Thomas, Mayo, Guyton, Woods, TBC, Lenon, Alexander, Crable
CB (5) - Bodden, Wilhite, Springs, Butler, Wheatley,
S (5) - Meriweather, Sanders, Chung, McGowan, Slater

Specialists (3) - Gostkowski, Hanson, Ingram

If Crable is healthy, he gets a spot. If he gets IR'd, it's possible Ninkovich has a role, if BB thinks Burgess/TBC can't effectively fill the 3-4 OL position and doesn't want to rely that much on the 4-3. (However, I think he'd be perfectly comfortable running a 2-gap 4-3.) I've kept BJGE off the team in favor of another lineman in the past, but the presence of LeVoir on the PS, the shadow-roster eligibility of Britt to move in as a backup in case of injury, BJGE appearance on STs, and the historical frailty of our RBs have finally won me over. Connolly may take OBurger's spot, if BB thinks OBurger can make it to the PS. I continue to think Alexander and Slater are locks on STs. Slater's correctable errors aside, they're the best two coverage guys out there.

 

[patriotscpfc]

I'd put a lot of money on Ventrone making it.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

I'd put a lot of money on Ventrone making it.

I hope so. Ive really liked him since last preseason.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Best Wishes Tedy. Who's O'Connell?

-- The defense is built on the base 3-4/mulitple front approach. Between 15 DL and LBs they can run 4-3 heavy and goal line to a 1-5 Nickel with little difficulty, switching from one to two-gap lines on the fly.
-- The offense is built on a 3 WR basis.

Offense:
QB: (2) Brady, Walter
RB: (5) Maroney, Taylor, Faulk, Morris, Green-Ellis
WR: (7) Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis, Edelman
TE: (3) Baker, Thomas, Watson
OL: (8) Light, Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Kaczur, Wendell, Connolly, Vollmer
Total - (23)

Defense:
DL: (7) Warren, Wilfork, Seymour, Green, Wright, Pryor, Brace
OLB: (4) Banta-Cain, Woods, Burgess, Crable
ILB: (3) Mayo, Thomas, Guyton
CB: (5) Wilhite, Bodden, Butler, Wheatley, Springs
S (5) Sanders, Meriweather, Chung, McGowan
Total - (23)

Specialists:
P: (1) Hanson
PK: (1) Gostkowski
LS: (1) Hodel
Core: (4) Aiken, Ventrone, Alexander, Slater
Total - (7)

PSquad: Hoyer, Ingram, Orhnberger, Bussey, Richard, Love, Nunn, Ninkovich
PUP/NFI: LeVoir, Tate

-- I broke out the core Special Teams players from their position assignments to avoid confusion. An additional value to retaining four core Special Teamers is Alexander and Ventrone can be released without concern they will be claimed off waivers (unlike Green-Ellis/Crable who would be otherwise vulnerable) so the team can adjust the roster as needed.
-- Green-Ellis is kept due to the injury history of the core RBs and his Special Teams contribution.
-- Against Washington, Vollmer showed he can handle #3 swing tackle duty until LeVoir is back healthy. This makes Britt and O'Callaghan expendable.
-- I don't believe you animals didn't ravage me for forgetting Adalius Thomas on my last attempt at a roster; he is the reason the LB/DE corps is so flexible, but Woods is doing a decent shadow job in that 3-4 OLB/4-3 DE & OLB role (Guyton and TBC, and Ninkovich on the PSquad, might develop that way too).

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

I think that Taylor and Morris are bascially the same back, one of them might not make the cut.

 

[patriotscpfc]

Best Wishes Tedy. Who's O'Connell?

-- The defense is built on the base 3-4/mulitple front approach. Between 15 DL and LBs they can run 4-3 heavy and goal line to a 1-5 Nickel with little difficulty, switching from one to two-gap lines on the fly.
-- The offense is built on a 3 WR basis.

Offense:
QB: (2) Brady, Walter
RB: (5) Maroney, Taylor, Faulk, Morris, Green-Ellis
WR: (7) Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis, Edelman
TE: (3) Baker, Thomas, Watson
OL: (8) Light, Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Kaczur, Wendell, Connolly, Vollmer
Total - (23)

Defense:
DL: (7) Warren, Wilfork, Seymour, Green, Wright, Pryor, Brace
OLB: (4) Banta-Cain, Woods, Burgess, Crable
ILB: (3) Mayo, Thomas, Guyton
CB: (5) Wilhite, Bodden, Butler, Wheatley, Springs
S (5) Sanders, Meriweather, Chung, McGowan
Total - (23)

Specialists:
P: (1) Hanson
PK: (1) Gostkowski
LS: (1) Hodel
Core: (4) Aiken, Ventrone, Alexander, Slater
Total - (7)

PSquad: Hoyer, Ingram, Orhnberger, Bussey, Richard, Love, Nunn, Ninkovich
PUP/NFI: LeVoir, Tate

-- I broke out the core Special Teams players from their position assignments to avoid confusion. An additional value to retaining four core Special Teamers is Alexander and Ventrone can be released without concern they will be claimed off waivers (unlike Green-Ellis/Crable who would be otherwise vulnerable) so the team can adjust the roster as needed.
-- Green-Ellis is kept due to the injury history of the core RBs and his Special Teams contribution.
-- Against Washington, Vollmer showed he can handle #3 swing tackle duty until LeVoir is back healthy. This makes Britt and O'Callaghan expendable.
-- I don't believe you animals didn't ravage me for forgetting Adalius Thomas on my last attempt at a roster; he is the reason the LB/DE corps is so flexible, but Woods is doing a decent shadow job in that 3-4 OLB/4-3 DE & OLB role (Guyton and TBC, and Ninkovich on the PSquad, might develop that way too).

Mine is very much the same as yours. 51/53.

I have Lenon and Ingram instead of TBC and Hodel. But if we go to 4-3 for certain, then I would keep TBC instead.

 

[pats1]

Bruschi clearly had little left in the tank and many of us felt he was on the bubble. But with his history, no one was going out on a limb and outright predicting that he would be cut or would retire. It was always a possibility, and it's probably for the best that it's happened, but certainly no one should be "eating crow" because of it.

Really?

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...ent-roster-projections-page2.html#post1453448

Offense: 24

QBs (3) - Brady, O'Connell, Hoyer
RBs (4) - Maroney, Morris, Taylor, Faulk
WRs (5) - Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis, Edelman OR Nunn
TEs (4) - Baker, Watson, Smith, Thomas
OL (8) - Light, Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Kaczur, Hochstein, Vollmer, Yates

Defense: 24

DL (8) - Seymour, Wilfork, Brace, Warren, Burgess, Green, Wright, Banta-Cain
LB (6) - Thomas, Mayo, Guyton, Woods, Crable, Alexander
CB (5) - Bodden, Wilhite, Springs, Butler, Wheatley
S (4) - Meriweather, Sanders, Chung, McGowan

Specialists (6) - Gostkowski, Hanson, Ingram OR Hodel, Ventrone, Aiken, Ciurciu

PUP: Ohrnberger, Levoir; NFI: Tate; IR: McKenzie

Notable Cuts: Bruschi, Smith, Slater, Green-Ellis, Williams, Britt, Lenon, Bussey, Pryor, Richard, O'Callaghan, Walter, Nunn/Edelman, Hodel/Ingram

 

[Reckedtrek]

I don't think anyone should have to eat crow over roster projections, but the title of this thread does get more amusing everyday, you must admit!

Still, next year someone will probably post a similar thread title in mid August. The only thing I can say for sure on the topic is it won't be me, but I'm still glad someone did.

 

[Ring 6]

Pats1, The ACTIVE Roster is the 53 man roster. The Game Day Roster is the 45 man roster. One of the other stipulations that makes you inelligible for the 53 man roster is having been on the active roster for the entire season.

NFL Roster Rules | Answerbag.com



By being on Miami's 53 man roster for all of 2007, Ninkovich accrued one season of NFL experience. And that would make him inelligible for the Practice Squad.

If you have another source that says differently, please share it.. Unlike some posters on here, I can admit when I'm wrong.

too bad it doesnt go by wins

 

[bucky]

Let's try this one more time after the final game:

OFFENSE (26)
QB Brady, Walter, Hoyer
RB Maroney, Taylor, Faulk, Morris, Benny
WR Moss, Welker, Galloway, Edelman, Aiken, Lewis
TE Baker, Watson, Thomas
OL Light, Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Kaczur, Orhnberger, Vollmer, O'Callaghan, Wendell

DEFENSE (24)
DL Seymour, Wilfork, Warren, Green, Brace, Wright, Pryor
DE/OLB Burgress, Banta-Cain
OLB Thomas, Woods, Ninkovich
ILB Mayo, Guyton, Alexander
CB Bodden, Wilhite, Springs, Butler, Wheatley
S Meriweather, Sanders, Chung, McGowan

SPECIALISTS (3)
K Gostkowski
P Hanson
LS Ingram


IR:
Slater

- Ninkovich has played well and clearly outplayed Crable and Lenon. He can also contribute on ST
-Alexander makes it on ST first and foremost.
-Tough not put Nunn in there as Slater's replacement, but can't find the room for him.
-A little offense-heavy, but then again offense is this team's strength, so it's to be expected.

 

[Patspsycho]

Let's try this one more time after the final game:

OFFENSE (26)
QB Brady, Walter, Hoyer
RB Maroney, Taylor, Faulk, Morris, Benny
WR Moss, Welker, Galloway, Edelman, Aiken, Lewis
TE Baker, Watson, Thomas
OL Light, Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Kaczur, Orhnberger, Vollmer, O'Callaghan, Wendell

DEFENSE (24)
DL Seymour, Wilfork, Warren, Green, Brace, Wright, Pryor
DE/OLB Burgress, Banta-Cain
OLB Thomas, Woods, Ninkovich
ILB Mayo, Guyton, Alexander
CB Bodden, Wilhite, Springs, Butler, Wheatley
S Meriweather, Sanders, Chung, McGowan

SPECIALISTS (3)
K Gostkowski
P Hanson
LS Ingram


IR:
Slater

I like this list. Question is why Watson was put in 2nd half if he is allegedly a roster lock?

I am still hoping they cut either Galloway or Lewis in favor of Nunn- chances of that are nil, but..

 

[PYPER]

Here's mine....

OFFENSE (25)
QB Brady, Walter, Hoyer
RB Maroney, Taylor, Faulk, BJGE (Morris or BJGE to PUP)
WR Moss, Welker, Galloway, Edelman, Aiken, Lewis
TE Baker, Watson, Thomas
OL Light, Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Kaczur, Orhnberger, Vollmer, O'Callaghan, Wendell

DEFENSE (25)
DL Seymour, Wilfork, Warren, Green, Brace, Wright, Pryor
DE/OLB Burgress, Banta-Cain
OLB Thomas, Woods, Crable, Ninkovich
ILB Mayo, Guyton, Lenon
CB Bodden, Wilhite, Springs, Butler, Wheatley
S Meriweather, Sanders, Chung, McGowan

SPECIALISTS (3)
K Gostkowski
P Hanson
LS Ingram


PUP:
Morris (or BJGE)
Nunn
Slater (or IR depending on severity of injury)


I cut Alexander but I think that Galloway could be vulnerable instead.

I like the idea of keeping some depth on PUP. I suspect that BB does as well.

 

[unoriginal]

[...] Accrued seasons themselves have no bearing on practice squad eligibility. We established this in a thread around this time last year looking at PS eligibility; guys like Yates and Shoate had 3-4 accrued seasons but were still practice squad eligible, simply because they were not active for at least 9 games in a single season. We also determined that the unclear wording of the CBA ("for no more than nine games in any accrued season(s)") meant that the active games were not aggregated; i.e. nine active games over two seasons would not disqualify you. We used the example of Adimchinobe Echemandu as an example. The forum search is messed up with the database problems so I can't dig up that thread right now. [...]

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england.../10/97724-practice-squad-eligibility-fyi.html

 

[BradyFTW!]

As of now, I'd guess...

OFFENSE (25)
QB Brady, Walter, Hoyer
RB Maroney, Taylor, Faulk, Morris
WR Moss, Welker, Galloway, Edelman, Aiken, Nunn
TE Baker, Watson, Thomas
OL Light, Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Kaczur, Ohrenberger, Vollmer, O'Callaghan, Wendell

DEFENSE (25)
DL Seymour, Wilfork, Warren, Green, Brace, Wright, Pryor
DE/OLB Burgess, Banta-Cain
LB Thomas, Woods, Ninkovich, Mayo, Guyton, Alexander, Lenon
CB Bodden, Wilhite, Springs, Butler, Wheatley
S Meriweather, Sanders, Chung, McGowan

SPECIALISTS (3)
K Gostkowski
P Hanson
LS Ingram


PUP:
Crable
LeVoir


IR:
Slater
McKenzie

Last Cut:
BenJarvus Green-Ellis: I like him a lot, and he played really well tonight. Would like to see him make it, but I still don't see how the numbers add up.
(btw, I was watching for him on ST, but must have missed him. Anyone have insight on a) what he does, and b) how good he is at it?)

Other Notable Cuts:
Greg Lewis
Alex Smith
Dan Connolly
Billy Yates

 

[JSn]

I'm certainly starting to think Nunn could take Galloway or Lewis' spot.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I'm certainly starting to think Nunn could take Galloway or Lewis' spot.

I still think Galloway is safe, but not so sure about Lewis. It would be a bummer for him to lose his last chance to prove himself based on a cheap shot, though.

 

[pats1]

As of now, I'd guess...

OFFENSE (25)
QB Brady, Walter, Hoyer
RB Maroney, Taylor, Faulk, Morris
WR Moss, Welker, Galloway, Edelman, Aiken, Nunn
TE Baker, Watson, Thomas
OL Light, Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Kaczur, Ohrenberger, Vollmer, O'Callaghan, Wendell

DEFENSE (25)
DL Seymour, Wilfork, Warren, Green, Brace, Wright, Pryor
DE/OLB Burgess, Banta-Cain
LB Thomas, Woods, Ninkovich, Mayo, Guyton, Alexander, Lenon
CB Bodden, Wilhite, Springs, Butler, Wheatley
S Meriweather, Sanders, Chung, McGowan

SPECIALISTS (3)
K Gostkowski
P Hanson
LS Ingram


PUP:
Crable
LeVoir


IR:
Slater
McKenzie

Last Cut:
BenJarvus Green-Ellis: I like him a lot, and he played really well tonight. Would like to see him make it, but I still don't see how the numbers add up.
(btw, I was watching for him on ST, but must have missed him. Anyone have insight on a) what he does, and b) how good he is at it?)

Other Notable Cuts:
Greg Lewis
Alex Smith
Dan Connolly
Billy Yates

Crable cannot go on PUP.

Ninkovich should be listed with Burgess and Banta-Cain.

 

[pats1]

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england.../10/97724-practice-squad-eligibility-fyi.html

Wow, thanks.