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Using all quarters v. the 4th kinda skews things a bit, wht is he in 1-3 v. 4?
That's the right question.
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you can't put the notion of 'magic' on brady alone.
there are some things about him that give the appearance of him getting on in years. the biggest one is his pocket presence or pocket awareness. anyone who says he's still the same QB he's always been in the pocket is in denial. watch film from the present and the past at the same time. especially against tougher defenses......even in those instances when the pats were getting pounded by the steelers in 2004 or something, he was behaviorally a completely different QB than he is now.
part of this is understandable. At his age, he has to have life beyond football on his mind, and would deservedly like to preserve the same physical capacities he currently has.
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Sk Int Yds TD Lng PD FF Fmb FR Yds TD Tkl Ast Sfty
2001* 24 NWE QB 12 15 14 0 12 4 -18 0
2002 25 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 11 5 -32 0
2003 26 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 13 3 -5 0
2004* 27 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 7 1 -17 0
2005* 28 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 4 0 0 0
2006 29 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 12 1 -2 0
2007*+ 30 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 6 1 0 0
2009* 32 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 4 0 0 0
2010*+ 33 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 3 1 -5 0
2011* 34 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 6 3 -8 0
2012 35 NWE QB 12 6 5 0 2 1 -3 0
Career 167 164 0 80 20 -90 0
What I wouldn't give to watch brady implement Charlie Weis' scheme now. patience and taking what is being given because there is always something being given. that same scheme that helped insulate a developing QB would work even better with an aging QB in the beginning throes of decline.
Damn, you got a funny way of reading those statistics then.
His rating is better in the 4th quarter in 2 of those seasons; the difference is negligible in six seasons; and he's noticeably worse in three seasons (including his rookie year and the season after the ACL).
How on earth do you extrapolate that into:
That's the right question.
When we get to trades, we can point to Haynesworth as the prime example of failure
The problem with your analysis is that it is wrong and built on anecdotal evidence. Anyone watching Brady this season has seen that his pocket presence has been incredibly good, probably just as good as it ever has been. The ironic thing was I was thinking along the same lines as you at the start of the season so this was one of the main things I was looking at from the first game. I've been shocked at how good he has been in the pocket this year. It made me re-evaluate how I looked at his play, as I did see the occasional phantom duck despite his overall great play. The one thing that I did come to realize that his phantom ducks aren't a weakness nor are they necessarily a bad thing. Look at the following
Code:Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Sk Int Yds TD Lng PD FF Fmb FR Yds TD Tkl Ast Sfty 2001* 24 NWE QB 12 15 14 0 12 4 -18 0 2002 25 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 11 5 -32 0 2003 26 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 13 3 -5 0 2004* 27 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 7 1 -17 0 2005* 28 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 4 0 0 0 2006 29 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 12 1 -2 0 2007*+ 30 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 6 1 0 0 2009* 32 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 4 0 0 0 2010*+ 33 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 3 1 -5 0 2011* 34 NWE QB 12 16 16 0 6 3 -8 0 2012 35 NWE QB 12 6 5 0 2 1 -3 0 Career 167 164 0 80 20 -90 0
Notice the decrease in fumbles? A lot of people like to remember that kid that would stand in the pocket under all pressure until the very last second. They neglect to remember that it was also a problem as it related to fumbles from edge pressure. These phantom ducks aren't a result growing weaknesses, they are a result of purposely trying to prevent turnovers.
The problem is "what is being given" more and more is one-on-one coverage on the outside which the Patriots still don't have the outside receivers to exploit. Teams are packing the middle of the field taking away the short passes. It's a strategy good defenses do against them all game long but even mediocre defenses will employ it when they are behind and desperate.
If the Pats can't run the ball against an opponent's base defense, and, despite their gaudy rushing numbers so far this year, they still are not able to do so consistently. Thus, they have no choice but to throw it down the field to try to get first downs at the end of games.
This is why I'd like to see the Patriots line Gronkowski and Hernandez outside more during these situations. Most defenses don't have suitable personnel to match up with them in man to man, so defenses have to make a decision whether they want to put a CB on them who mostly aren't tall enough to cover them or linebackers who mostly aren't fast enough to cover them. Either way you have a better chance at making some plays down field and perhaps even open up some things underneath for Welker, Branch and the running back.
Haynesworth CANT be viewed as the prime example of a trade failure. There was ENORMOUS (ha) upside for virtually no cost.
31 other headcoaches would love to fail as successfully as we did with Haynesworth.
Just the things that came out of this known malcontents mouth in regards to the Patriots and BB even after he was let go was provably worth what we gave for him.
Thomas on the other hand is a much better example of a prime trafe failure.
In reply to an earlier post regarding the occurrance of blown 4th quarter leads increasing with the defense in it's rebuilding phase...
In 2009, the Patriots defense surrendered 8 scoring drives in 4 of their 6 losses when leading in the 4th quarter. In 2010, the Patriots didn't lose when leading or tied in the 4th quarter. In 2011, the Patriots defense allowed 5 scoring drives in 2 or their 3 losses when leading or tied in the 4th quarter. The rate of failure when it comes to protecting a 4th quarter lead, when looking at those numbers, should be put squarely on the defense.
How many offensive drives stalled in the 4th Quarter in that same period?
In reply to an earlier post regarding the occurrance of blown 4th quarter leads increasing with the defense in it's rebuilding phase...
In 2009, the Patriots defense surrendered 8 scoring drives in 4 of their 6 losses when leading in the 4th quarter. In 2010, the Patriots didn't lose when leading or tied in the 4th quarter. In 2011, the Patriots defense allowed 5 scoring drives in 2 or their 3 losses when leading or tied in the 4th quarter. The rate of failure when it comes to protecting a 4th quarter lead, when looking at those numbers, should be put squarely on the defense.
Caller wants to trade Brady .
"http://audio.weei.com/a/64951736/caller-wants-to-trade-tom-brady.htm"
If the link fails just go to weei.com . Some guy called jimmy is totally trashing Brady and is so mean in his remarks . I feel he has personal vendetta against him . It is so sick when your own fans are jealous of their QB that they have to resort to anything to cut him down to satisfy their ego ?
He is called Jimmy from Lowell .
sorry ! I am a young guy and my blood is boiling ! I apologize if i annoyed anyone
I can't post a thread so i just wanted everybody to see this guy and kick his ass !!!
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I didn't know that Tom Brady was a wizard. How did he lose his magic? Did Voldemort steal his wand?
Sadly, the era of the internet and fantasy sports has led people to believe that an offense has to be perfect in order for it not to suck. Being the winningest team in football for the past 3+ years, despite having a QB returning from ACL surgery and having a defense that was in clear decline during that period, is somehow not a sign that the offense is getting the job done, because the team's lost some games in the 4th quarter. :bricks: