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  1. Bill B.

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    I was at a Sports bar yesterday so I wasn't paying that much attention at the end of the game, but I thought I saw Belichick shake hands with Coughlin. Now, I am reading he didn't. Did BB shake hands or not? I can't imagine him not doing that.
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    Belichick shook Coughlin's hand and hugged him as well, then left the field.
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    Good Heavens! He went tearing over to C with about a second left on the clock and hugged him. I couldn't swear to whether their hands touched or not.
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    The truth never got in the way of what they want to report! he hugged him.
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    It's really incredible how much the press still hates us that this would be reported the way it was.

    I was there and watched the whole thing. After the last patriots play, Belichick went to midfield and hugged Caughlin and talked to a couple of players. Then the yellow rope guys started coming out, and the Patriots walked toward their locker room.

    Carey and the rest of the refs huddled and decided that the game couldn't end. The Patriots players had to run back out of the tunnel to run the last kneel down play.
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    #24 Jersey

    Yeah, the piss ant haters can kiss my ass. I guess a hug isn't good enough now if you incorrectly think the game is over but there's really 2 seconds left :mad:
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    Definitely an embrace with a little b.s.'ing.
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    In hindsight I think BB went onto the field to congradulate the opposing coach and team and then left the field a little early.

    Moss got a lot of flack a few years ago for doing similar.
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    He got a handshake and huge from Belly
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    This one is unexplainable. BB conceded with 2 secs to go and initiated running across the field. He did congratulate Coughlin. When have you seen the NFL demand that a play be run under those circumstances? How many times have you seen games end that way? I am not a conspiracy guy but I think this was the NFL’s twisting the knife!
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    I never have seen a team concede early and leave while there is time still on the clock.
    I have never seen a game where the refs have said, hey there is only 2 seconds left, lets just call it a game and go home.
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    I've seen it several times, actually.

    A coach cannot concede a game, unless by forfeit.
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    This is a sad attempt to spin something.

    Belichick looked up at the clock and it read ZERO. A NFL secuirty guy held him by the arm as he escorted Belichick to midfield. As BB hugged Coughlin, the refs were conferring about adding time to the clock. As Belichick was congratulating individual Giants, the refs added time to the clock. He was running off the field at that point.

    Seau said that he was already at his locker when someone from the league told him they needed the Patriots out there to run another play. We're not privy to wheter Belichick was told or whether he decided not to come back out, whatever.
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    Spin,,,I call Spin on you.

    I don't think BB meant to leave early, but he sure as hell did, something that Moss was cruxified for doing while he was a Vike.

    Not that a big deal should be made out of this.
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    We can only speculate. He might have thought the game was officially over for all we know. While he probably should have waited the last 2 seconds before leaving the field, I don't think it's all big of a deal as people are making it out to be. He's never been known for his sportsmanship (from the outside perspective, I must admit I see him maybe 3 times a year). However, there is no other coach I would rather have because as we saw, he cares about the game probably more than most of the players. Obviously losing doesn't suite him well and it shouldn't.
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    You compared it to Moss. Big difference. The clock read ZERO when Belichick was running out there. Moss left while the game was still being played. Heck, Belichick didn't even run to the locker room. He went out to congratulate Coughlin.

    You're just trying to spin this in the worst possible light by comparing it to Moss and then saying Moss was crucified.
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    I see your point, and I should probaly not of even commented.

    However, I stand by my statements.
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    Ok I concede that 'concede' is a bad choice of words.

    I have seen where there are seconds ticking off the clock and the losing coach start his walk toward midfield.

    I don't think BB did anything differently then that..

    this is a non-event that the NFL turned into something and i am saying there may have been a motive.
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    Why are you here?
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    I heard that the clock in the stadium ran down to zero before BB ran out. Then the refs put 2 seconds back on, which necessitated the final kneeldown. I think the refs acted correctly, but it helps explain why BB ran out when he did.
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    You had to be in the stadium to understand what was going on. Although I haven't seen the broadcast, I doubt they did it justice. The Giants player were all over the field, with their helmets off. The yellow-rope security people were roping off the lane to the Patriots' locker room. They had their handshake, and both coaches thought it was over. Belichick was long gone -- Seau had to grab someone else's helmet to take the last play. Manning had to be retreived from celebtrating near the stands.
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    The way people and the media jump all over Belichick for any little thing with little to no regard for context is absolutely absurd. Absurd ... but hardly surprising anymore.
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    Amazing how so many people are calling him classless for this but have nothing to say about how the Giants handled themselves after the game.
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    I am just sick to death of the BB hate. I support him more than ever. Why? Because I see parts of my personality in BB. I don't handle losing with grace. I'm fine if we win, but lose? Get the F out of my face, I don't care who you are.

    He did nothing to warrant this vitriol last night. But it doesn't matter WHAT he does or doesn't do, he gets **** on anyway. Just F off, you idiot media hacks.
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    Hehehe... same reason as I support him.

    Same exact reason.

    COOL...
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    i like him for the same reasons. reminds of a de niro movie line (forgot which) in which he is asked why does such things ? he replies "i like to piss people off".
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    Whoever was running the game clock seemed to be having issues for the last three minutes. When Belichick went out on the field it read appeared to read 0:01. After watching seconds get added and subtracted during that three minute period, I have no doubt the game clock may have read 0:00.

    The fact is the media pounces on Belichick and anything he does. I was reading this morning about not handshaking after an obvious hug (I was surprised he was not accused of mocking the handshake custom with an embrace). If he wins, he cheats. If he loses, he was honest but outcoached.

    I too would love to see the media get a grip and leave the guy alone. I'd hate to see him leave the game despite his obvious love of coaching because of constant criticism of virtually everything he does in a game or after a game.
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    Don't understand the outrage over this. Although not all media hacks think the same... Mike Greenberg from ESPN, also huge Jets fan, gave Belichick a pass this morning.

    What was Bill supposed to do? Run back to the sideline, watch the kneel down and run back and congratulate Coughlin again? Understandably he just wanted to get off the field and let the Giants celebrate. These haters just love piling it on.
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    bad situation for BB. From my perspective it looked like BB wanted out of there. His team had lost, the game clock was all over the place from 2 secs to 0. the ref looked like he told him we need to run another play and get back to the sideline and to me it looked like BB politely shoved him out of the way to give TC a little hug. He couldve went back to his sideline and waited with respect for the final kneeldown and maybe congratulate some giant players but you cant kill him for the awkward situation and just leaving. That being said, BB brings this on himself, from LT calling him classless to his weak handshake and distaste for mangini, to his shoving a camera guy out of the way to hug mangini in last years playoffs to his montone interviews looking like a grump, win or lose. He brings this on himself and the media loves to harp on a lot of non issues.

    Keep in mind, you cant kill the media for this. this is what they do. they love this soap opera stuff and you cant say you didnt love it when LT was accused of sulking on the sideline when he was doing nothing of the sort. TV and media portrays something they want you to see. Keeps the NFL churning. Keeps the distaste going for great coaches and great players. Think about the best players in football and almost all are hated. Peyton, Brady, LT, BB, TO. They are all unliked by most except for fans of those teams. It what keeps people interested, and that is just sad.
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