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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.PatsSteve1 said:The more he visits teams and leaves without a deal the more I like it.
patsox23 said:Givens is one of the few guys I don't mind watching go SOLELY for the money. The guy was making (relative) chump-change for his entire rookie deal. He deserves to set himself up for life with this contract. I hope we give it to him, as long as it's realistic, but I don't begrudge him trying to get every penny he can.
BelichickFan said:Wow, the Texans and the Titans. That Givens is all about winning isn't he.
Understood but the probability of winning in the next five years with the Titans or Texans is way lower than with the Patriots. Clearly it's not zero but it's not high.Crazy Patriot Guy said:I see comments like this a lot and I've always thought the same thing, so please don't think I'm ripping you personally. I just happen to be responding to this one.
No, me neither. The only problem that I have is the inevitable assertion by some that the Patriots didn't do enough to keep him. You'd think that the 5 for 25 news would take care of that, but it won't.patsox23 said:Givens is one of the few guys I don't mind watching go SOLELY for the money. The guy was making (relative) chump-change for his entire rookie deal. He deserves to set himself up for life with this contract. I hope we give it to him, as long as it's realistic, but I don't begrudge him trying to get every penny he can.
Crazy Patriot Guy said:"Understood but the probability of winning in the next five years with the Titans or Texans is way lower than with the Patriots. Clearly it's not zero but it's not high."
Sure, we're better set to win right now than the Texans or Titans but that's not the point. Again, five years ago we were voted as the team with no future. Things change rapidly.
It's not always about going to the team that guarantees you the most wins. If that was the case, we should have a much more loaded roster because everyone should be clammering to join the Patriots. (along with other top teams) Like I said, it's about the feeling that you were the reason a team turned it around. How many coaches over the years have left great teams and ended up taking jobs with bad ones later on? It's about the challenge.
Also, I forgot to mention that Givens is from Texas, so playing so close to home is obviously a big plus. Also, with him growing up in Texas, it's very possible he's a fan of the Oilers/Titans and always dreamed of playing for them.
I just don't like how it just has to be all about money if a player signs with a low-level team. LeCharles Bentley signed with Cleveland. He's from Ohio and went to Ohio State. He said before free agency started that he'd love to sign with Cleveland. Should we criticize him if he turned down an offer from a team with a better record?