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  1. ALP

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    i know which the experts like best...but say gholston somehow slides down to 7....do you want to take him? or trade up to say 14 and take groves instead?

    im not as high as others on either, but i think that they will both be similar in theh pros...workouts were very similar, except gholston's VJ was 42 in, and groves only 35in...

    im pretty sure every other stat was equal.....so which would you want at their respective slots? gholston at 7, or groves at 14 (keep money and salary cap in mind...)


    i think i go for groves....b/c it will aslo give us an extra pick in rd 2
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    This is a dumb question. Gholston at #7 would be great. It obvious.
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    It seems to be a loaded question, because really you're asking would I rather have Gholston, or would I rather have Groves andAntoine Cason.

    Clearly, I'd rather have two good players than one. However, I have more confidence in Gholston being a successful OLB in the NFL than I do Groves.
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    I'd take Gholston. Superstar athletes don't grow on trees.

    The way he has looked as of late makes me highly doubt he will still be available at #7, but who knows.

    If only we could get Rodgers-Cromartie and Groves...
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    I'd take Gholston and then draft Tracy Porter or Patrick Lee in Round 2. Brandon Flowers could now fall deep into round 2 as well now. You take the bets player of the bunch clearly Gholston, and then you work from there.
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    I think when you are in position to draft that high you do whatever manuvering you can to get the BEST guy you can. I like Gholston more because I think he is more built to stand up at the point of attack. Last year we proved its about QUALITY not quantity, and I think the differences can be made up later in the draft. The question is, if Gholston goes higher(like the Mayock Mock)do we trade UP to get Long...again, no brainer, you get the best player you can while in that position.
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    I think Chris Long has Patriot written all over him. I'd do what I could to get him. If like Mayock think he may fall a bit, I'd be on the phone with Kansas City to jump up to #5 and get Long. Long may not turn out to be a good of a Pro as Gholston, but I think Long will be more consistent and just a great team guy. He'll be a stud for 10yrs.
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    I would easily take Groves and a mid 2nd rounder. I mean, at least Groves has experience at OLB. Does anyone know how Gholston would do in pass coverage? That's one thing the Colvin was good at besides getting to the QB.
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    I love Gholston if he's there at 7.
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    I'm beginning to think that the Patriots continue with their (low)risk-(high)reward approach. So I'm going to say, neither Gholston or Groves. That's right, they will pass on both!

    I think they bring in more veteran help at both CB and LB, in particular, CB Lito Shepherd and LB Jason Taylor. I think they trade down once to Philly for Shepherd, then again to Miami at the top of round two for Jason Taylor.

    With those positions filled, now the Patriots can continue with their current belief that the game has shifted to Offense. Therefore, their top two picks are WR Devin Thomas, replacing Stallworth, and TE Kellen Davis, replacing Kyle Brady. In fact, I'll go one step further and say the TE is picked first. :eek:
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    hmm...well, i think i would take groves and cason, and fill two needs with one stone...

    we have no idea if gholston can play OLB, and he reported he likes playing DE better, meaning he doesnt like playing coverage...which itsnt good...

    i think groves will be on par with gholston, so why not take an exceptional CB as well?

    one thing though, i think quite a number of WR are coming off the board round one.
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    Well, unless the Pats totally trade out of the 1st round, there's no way that a TE is going to be picked. None of the TEs are 1st round talent. Not even Kellen Davis.

    As for Devin Thomas, why do the Pats need another replacement for Stallworth? They have one in Chad Jackson. In fact, I think that the Pats wouldn't have let Stallworth go if they'd felt that Chad Jackson hadn't made any progress. Also, Stallworth spent more time on the bench late in the year than he did playing. Gaffney was getting more reps.

    As for replacing K. Brady, I think that Spach could be in line to do that. But Spach is a one trick pony in that he's a blocker only. The Pats could look for someone who is more versatile, but they have versatility in both Thomas and Watson, though neither is an outstanding blocker.
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    Groves is faster and to me seems a better fit into tha 3-4. I wouldnt be surprised if Groves is picked @ 7. Trading down a couple of spots and picking up an extra pick and still landing Groves would be tha ideal scenario imo.
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    I would be pissed if it happens. At #7? nah.
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    1.chris long
    2.Gholston
    3.groves
    for inside linebacker i would love to have either jonothan goff or dan connor
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    I think Goff will become a better ILB then Conner.....and Connor is slated much higher
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    A bit off topic here. They let Stallworth go because the drop off to Gaffney or Kelley W. wasn't as great as the money. And yes, they want to see if Jackson emerges, but that had more to do with keeping Gaff for only a year (their choice, not Gaffney's), IMO.

    Having said that, the draft rumors at Patriots Daily show a lot of high-end WRs. If they use a high pick on a WR, I'll be confused, BPA or not, it's an area that seems well-stocked, compared to LB or DB.
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