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I used to like Reiss' pieces. And whoever's in that picture is really cute.I hate ALL MEDIA They are all turds. Reiss is ok with me though.
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I used to like Reiss' pieces. And whoever's in that picture is really cute.I hate ALL MEDIA They are all turds. Reiss is ok with me though.
(laughing) What are they going to do? Say, "We don't like this guy covering our team..."So what? If you can't trust anything from ESPN no matter what, ever, then Teddy is as suspect as anyone else.
But the whole question is stupid because Mike Reiss has never done anything to warrant this over the top reaction other than work for an outfit that we don't generally like. That hasn't stopped him from being arguably the go to guy for regular info on what's going on with the team. Clearly, the team hasn't got the slightest problem with him.
How about Tedy Bruschi - same for him?
Hey!!!! You also reply to posts directed toward you!!! Wow!!!Anyway it's nice to be free of hateful, trivial, nitpicking, negative attacks from people online.
He's in the same situation as Reiss or any other Pats supporter on BSPN. In every war there are casualties.
They've done it before. Thomase was so frozen out he had to be shifted to baseball. The next time Borges gets any sort of comment from Bill will be the first time in more than a decade. Reiss gets lots of attention from Bill, clearly he doesn't have a problem with him.(laughing) What are they going to do? Say, "We don't like this guy covering our team..."
I have it from a pretty high source in the Patriots communications department that they simply cannot and will not divulge anything resembling inside information to ESPN - and yes, that includes Reiss
Not that I (or I would hope any of you) really needed them to tell me that - as even if the Pats were inclined to trust Reiss they know that ESPN will actually change their reporter's stories if there's too much "truth" and they know exactly where that inside info is likely to go - the only thing they give him are the things they WANT to see published (and that includes misinformation.)
And what was Reiss' reaction when ESPN altered his stories where there was even the most mild defense of the Patriots?? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but did Mike Reiss issue an outraged statement about ESPN and his personal journalistic integrity?
I recall lots of OTHERS doing that - but Reiss was pretty silent aside from affirming that in fact, his story was substantially changed. It was the classic acknowledgement by Mike Reiss that he is on a tight leash and he knows it.
As Mike Reiss himself said at the time of the controversy over his altered story “I think ESPN does a lot of great things and can cover things in a great way,"
I'd say that speaks volumes of Reiss' journalistic integrity - along with the fact that's clearly fine with Reiss since he's still at ESPN 2 years later - none of that sounds like a guy who thinks ESPN has been doing a bad job on it's coverage of Framegate to me
Again - if Reiss published a substantial story critical of ESPN and Mortensen's several years publication of the "11 of 12" story, please let me know - because clearly I missed it - all I recall is his "7 takeaways" article and commentary on the ESPN ombudsman that soon became "5 takeaways" - which is far too little too late
But it's been crickets from Reiss and I think that tells you all you need to know about his current reporting and journalistic integrity
I do remember Reiss' "The Patriots must be held accountable" story where he continued to use the "11 of 12" propaganda - nor do I recall any angry rant from Reiss when ESPN actually attributed a quote to Reiss saying that Brady "apologized" for his role in the Deflategate controversy
The fact of the matter is, unlike Bruschi or other financially secure ex-football players (another reason why I hold Bruschi's game day commentary with higher regard than Reiss/ESPN), Reiss doesn't have several millions in savings and NEEDS his job and seems to accept that he can't say what he wants
Don't get me wrong - Reiss is not the only one in the NFL media that is a lap dog for their NFL/ESPN sources - they all depend on access to NFL teams for their trade and aside from Sally Jenkins and a handful of others bold enough to piss off a $60 billion business entity, most other reporters KNOW Goodell et al have been lying but have declined to write about it)
We've seen what happens to reporters who question ESPN too - they are quickly let go - and Reiss knows this
So no - while I don't think that ESPN has the ability to stop Bruschi from saying what he wants (in part because that's live, right out of Bruschi's mouth and not "editable" and it would take a lot more than his ESPN salary for Bruschi to be bought - even though I question him for supporting ESPN) I question EVERYTHING attributed to Reiss (as Reiss and we all know we can't say for sure he actually said or wrote it) - and note the OMISSION of any Sally Jenkins-ish story coming from Reiss' keyboards
Just let that sink in for a second folks before you go on a "Reiss is above reproach" rant
Any of Reiss's articles or quotes may or may not be his. They may in fact be ESPN editors - and what's worse, we will never know what Reiss really thinks since he can't or won't print it
That's ok with Reiss - or else he'd not be at ESPN
If Reiss leaves ESPN (or better yet - is fired) - I expect to see some more frank commentary from him - but for perceptions of his own integrity, I don't think you'll ever see Reiss share too much about how he allowed himself to be compromised by ESPN in return for a pretty good paycheck
Very good examples. I don't understand how Tomase is walking around, let alone working. Unless he's hired by ESPN (why has that not already happened?)They've done it before. Thomase was so frozen out he had to be shifted to baseball. The next time Borges gets any sort of comment from Bill will be the first time in more than a decade. Reiss gets lots of attention from Bill, clearly he doesn't have a problem with him.
You pretty clearly have a very selective memory in regards to his stuff.
You pretty clearly have a very selective memory in regards to his stuff.
You pretty clearly have a very selective memory in regards to his stuff.
In fairness - I'll provide you with some attribution of what I said
If my memory is "selective" and I only remember those times that Reiss rolled over like a lap dog for his owners at ESPN, then these are the types of articles influencing me
Patriots should be held accountable (Reiss - calling on Patriots to explain the 11 of 12 under-inflated footballs report)
Lack of transparency on Deflategate made journalism tougher to judge (Reiss, acknowledging the censorship of his articles but using the opportunity to affirm what a great network ESPN is)
And of course - the blatant attribution of something Reiss didn't even say - where ESPN had Reiss saying that Brady apologized for Deflategate
Wouldn't you think an editor, attributing a false statement, to a reporter of Reiss' supposed caliber, would generate even a LITTLE bit of ire on his part?
Nope. Here's Mike Reiss' reaction to ESPN falsely attributing quotes to him:
"It was a mistake. Would hope it wasn't on site long, but shouldn't have happened."
Not even the least amount of outrage.
I have to assume that wasn't the first or last time ESPN did that - so the question is, if you don't know whether Mike Reiss wrote what ESPN says he wrote, why would you be defending his and ESPN's integrity?
Your nonsensical BS was cute for about 15 f###### seconds. Go re-read what you just posted. It's embarrassingly stupid. You think it's cute and clever. It's not. It's moronic.Forgiveness, please. Humble fansite neophyte concedes worthy veteran poster's wisdom. Still waiting for medical insurance company's response regarding coverage for individual therapy.
I still like the thread, though. I found it informative, even fun.
So I'm getting shot at dawn, right?
That wasn't all he had to say about that incident. Neither was the other quote. You're either selectively misquoting him, or your memory is failing you. No, he didn't go off and rant about the evils of ESPN, but you don't DO that about your employer. He did, however, indicate his pretty strong displeasure.
Again, you're basing this entire jihad based on his reporting the fans broke into a 'Brady!' chant instead of 'Free Brady!'. Something I haven't heard being reported anywhere else btw. The point is, how inane! What could he possibly gain from that? You honestly think ESPN gives a flying crap? Why? If anything, it would be better for them to have it reported that way. Do you think, for some strange reason, that nobody in NE (or anywhere else for that matter, although Reiss is mostly read in NE) thinks that fans ere don't support Brady? Really?
You're a grown up. I'm not going to do your research for you. I just think you're wasting your energy hating a guy who's done nothing whatsoever to warrant it. Why don't you save it for the clowns that deserve it? Otherwise, you just play into the Deadspin caricature of what Pats fans are.I would HOPE that Reiss went off on an angry rant about such an abuse
Would love to see some actual links and references... really
I did - if Reiss elaborated beyond what was said that I posted - by all means, post it here
But the issue of Reiss' journalistic integrity is really not debatable.
Reiss has been censored and quotes have been attributed to him that he did not say.
That doesn't exactly fall into the realm of "journalistic integrity" and one would THINK that Reiss expressed outrage - I mean, how do we know when it's Reiss and not the editor now?
But I digress - WHERE are those stories where Reiss gets even a little bit miffed that his name is being used attached to quotes he didn't make without his knowledge or permission????
So you're going to call out all the other reporters? Because I haven't seen one who reported Free Brady yet.All this back and forth continues to miss the point --- the REPORTER got it wrong, period. Reiss is paid to report and his story was inaccurate.
In my job, when I get things wrong, my credibility suffers and so should his. It's called accountability.
It would be really easy for Reiss to fix things, those "free Brady" chants are ongoing and rightfully so. Let's just see what he reports going forward.