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  1. smg93

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    According to this draft trade chart http://www.profootballtalk.com/draftchart.htm

    Pick 24 = 740 points

    Pick 28 = 660 points

    Total = 1,400 points

    Pick #8 = 1,400 points


    Hypothetically, what if the pats were forced to trade the two picks to acquire Houston's #8 pick, who would you get and why?
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    S Laron Landry- he could be a Rodney type enforcer back there for years to come.
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    Although highly unlikely it will happen, I would get Landry if available. BB was rumored to want to move up for Sean Taylor so it would make the most sense. Wake Forests' Josh Gattis has reminded some people of Rodney so they may go in that direction, having the real Rodney tutor him. Incidentally, here is my mock as it stands right now (Compensation picks assumed):

    Round (Overall#) Name (Position) - College

    1. (24) Chris Houston (CB) - Arkansas
    1. (28) Jon Beason (MLB) - Miami
    2. (60) Surrendered for Wes Welker (WR)
    3. (91) Jason Hill (WR) – Washington St.
    3. (Comp) Paul Williams (WR) – Fresno St.
    4. (123) Josh Gattis (S) – Wake Forest
    5. (Comp) Tyrone Moss (RB) - Miami
    6. (165) Ryan Harris (G/OT) – Notre Dame
    6. (187) Jeff Rowe (QB) - Nevada
    7. (219) Surrendered for Wes Welker (WR)
    7. (Comp) Jeremy Clark (NT) - Alabama

    I'd love to see them pry Lance Briggs from the Bears with a 2007 first rounder and a contingent 2008 pick. The way this offseason is shaping up, who can predict anything?
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    if not for Landry I could see them trading up for Patrick Willis. I don't think you would have to go as high as the 8th pick to get him though.
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    I don't think that Willis is as highly touted by NFL execs as he is by the draftniks. He will fall because I think his physical skills aren't as top notch as his collegiate production would indicate. That's just my opinion, so we'll see...
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    Landry would be mighty tempting...
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    I'm impressed. I expected to see a slew of different people but so far La Ron Landry would be the overwhelming favorite. If the consensus continues to be this strong, maybe we will trade up! ;)
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    Interesting...The Welker deal represents 303.4 points for both picks.
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    Forced??? What are the thought processes behind this post?
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    I think the only player worth going up to the #8 slot for would be Johnson, but there's no chance he falls that far.

    The next step would be trading the #24 and the #91 to move up to the #19 pick. There we could find Landry, Willis or maybe even Hall.

    Drafting two first rounders is more sexy then drafting one IMO.
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    Laron Landry or Branch. Never too many linemen.
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    Get Reggie Nelson at 24, he is a year younger than Landry and he's going to better...This kid is in that Bob Sanders/Palomalu mold of being able to cover tons of ground/hit/cover. And then there is obviously the Pats/UF connection....
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    I don't see us using both 1st rounders in a trade, especially after the Welker deal. While I'd love to have Landry, and I think he would be a perfect fit, I can't see him falling that far.
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    This isn't enough. The Pats screwed themselves by giving away their seventh round pick. If you add the value of that pick (3.4), THEN the Pats would have some bargaining power!

    Just thing of what you could do with 1403.4 points!! :D
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    This chart is total nonsense, because it undervalues (ignores, really) the fact that higher draft picks get higher salaries.

    Any team that trades a #8 for a #24 and #28 is getting a steal, and BB knows it. You will not see us trade up in this fashion (thank god).
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    plus what if this yrs draft is better than next year's and is deeper and has more players of value.
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    thats something alot of people dont take into account. ya really have to look ahead(like b.b. and s.p.) and think of what needs we have, and what we'll need in the future. the draft this year will be heavy on some positions, and next year will be heavier on others.
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    I would move up for Landry, Nelson, or Leon Hall. They may have the ammo to move into a position to land one of the three. I'd love Gaines Adams, Joe Thomas, or Calvin Johnson, but they don't have enough to move that far up...
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    I think we are trading down, and picking up a pick in 08, like when we traded to Bmore and they took Boller.
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    That makes more sense given the relative strength of the Draft and the signings to this point.
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    If we do trade up the only player I could see us moving up for would be landry or possibly even a wide reciever(doubtful) but I expect we'll take atleast 2 corners between the 3rd and 5th round maybe and the usual mid to late round linemen. But I think this is the year we start grooming Rodney's heir.
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    to get Moss for the same draft position as Welker it would take the 24th pick (740 points) and the 91st pick (136 points) for the 33rd pick (580 points) it cost you 296 points of the equivalent of the 2nd round pick sent for Welker - the 61st overall
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    Although I do realize that the point of this thread is to ask the hypothetical - who would you pick at #8 I think it would be very interesting to see the same "value" comparison for rookie salaries from last year

    I'm sure it will show that the rookie cap is way out of wack - Mario Williams got what, a 6 year $54 million contract last year as the Texans #1 pick and then the 2nd round #1 pick gets a 4 year $5 million contract.

    I'm simplifying but basically by taking one player at #8 instad of two at #24 and #28 we;re getting one player for $40 million instead of two players for a total of probably no more than $15 million

    The question then becomes, could a team, say in free agency, find better value with that $35 million than in the draft? I'd say yes, more so if you are actually drafting starters with the $15 mil you spend on the two late first round picks.

    Again these are just guesstimates on the salaries and contracts of #8, #24 and #28 so if anyone has those from 2006 it would be interesting to see
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    Patrick Willis...

    He would solidify the middle of that defense for years to come...:D
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    I think you are being very optimistic thinking the Pats will get a 3rd, 5th and 7th as comp pick. You are courting disappointment if you count on those. I think more likely a 5th and 2 7ths.... AND NO COMP PICKS FOR 2008 :D
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    Reading through the posts, I see a lot of people asking what the rationale for this post is. First of all, it's mostly about fun. I'm not actually for packaging two first round picks to move up. That's why I said it was "forced". I don't know what the reason would be to force us to trade up, but it is hypothetical.

    Regarding the draft charts, apparently many in the NFL follow it as a guide ever since this was created by jimmy johnson. Not saying that its a bible or anything but at least a guide used by many nfl personnel.
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    Our Picks (My prediction)

    1. #24 (Sea-D. Branch) 740
    1. #28 660
    2. #60 300
    3. #92 132
    4. #127 45
    4. #136 (Comp) 38 (Givens)
    6. #180 (Arz-B. Gorin) 19.4
    6. #203 10.2
    6. #212 (Comp) 6.6 (Ashworth)
    6. #213 (Comp) 6.2 (Vinatieri)
    7. #242 1
    7. #253 (Comp) 1 (Davis, Fauria, Dwight or Chatham)

    1959.4 Pts. on the 3000 scale

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