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  1. HEY BRO! WHAT UP?

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    3rd and 15! Failed in '06 title game, failed in superbowl and failed again. It makes me sick to see the defense fold when it matters most.

    However, I will say Cassel is the man. I will eat crow on that.
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    At some point, getting burned over the middle by tight ends starts to wear thin.
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    Expect all the homers to bash you, but there is no excuse for that 3rd and 15 situation. After all they did to come back, and you can't stop them on 3rd and ******* 15? Give me a break.
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    Defense is awwwwful
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    It was obviously some bastardly blown coverage. Just awful.
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    When its 3rd and 10 or more I can't even look.

    It the weakest part of our team.
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    they just cant seem to get it done late. they did once though....
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    Wow. Nice post.
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    Coverage was awful. God damn. Who blew that
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    Keep McDaniels out of the draft room, stop wasting top draft picks on offensive skill positions.

    Rebuild the defense and its depth.

    Defense wins championships. You can find a WR and RB off the free agent list or with low draft picks. Only use high picks for defense, or offensive line or TE.
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    The homers will makes excuses, but here are the facts: The patriots defense is poor. They havent been able to get off the field in 3rd and longs for over two years. There is NO excuse for giving up a 3rd and 15 with the game on the line.


    EPIC FAIL!
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    We're terrible with them aren't we. Chad Jackson. Maroney. Graham. Watson. Some decent players but not a single real good pick there.
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    Bad, bad, bad defense agian...too many 3rd and tens 3rd and ******* 15 and we give up first downs???
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    They had a chance to stop them in overtime with a third and 15. They let the Jets walk right down the field. If you really want me to die, that just shows your pathetic.
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    That's the thing about football. Yes, the D blew it, but it's not like they are the sole cause of the loss.
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    Seriously AWEFUL OT series on the D. No getting around it. They did some good things tonight, just not on that series.
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    Dan Pees: if the offense has to get X yards for a first down, don't freaking give them X yard passes on every third down.

    I am so freaking pissed right now. Super Bowl all over again (divided by 1,000,000). An amazing last second amazing catch by Moss. Another complete freaking meltdown by our secondary.

    On the upside, Cassel was a'ight.
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    You need to calm down, guy. You are the typical internet tough guy, who talks a bunch of crap, because in real life you are a little wimp.

    The D sucks, deal with it.
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    If you're looking for a trend, look no further than who the defensive coordinator has been for the three major collapses.
    Why the HELL did we change our base defense in the fourth quarter? The team with Guyton and Jarvis Green was terrorizing the Jets for the third quarter and into the 4th until we tied it. Then we went back to the defense that gave up 24 in the first half. Unreal.
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    Yes the offense made those mistakes.. yes it cost them yards and probably points.. but they scored 31 points.. and the D gave up 34.. Overall in the NFL if your O gets you 31 points? Thats a job well done.. a D that gives up 34? Failure..
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    I know the offense blew it a good 3 times in the 3rd quarter, but these 3rd and long failures are getting to be a habit.

    Dean Pees needs to go. I really think he is the problem.

    And I thought Dom Capers was our secondary coach? Why doesn't he put "Cover people like the tight end behind the first down marker on 3rd and long" into his playbook? Kevin Boss in the SB, Dustin Miller tonight, and Dallas Clark every single time we play the Colts is killing us.

    I think the players in there are fine...it's the gameplan.
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    You are right about the other mistakes. Clearly. But time and time again we can't make the stop when we need to. Our defense ISN'T good enough. Thomas and Warren would have been nice but it's happened with them too.
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    Yeah cuz you know, most healthy defenses usually shut it down in OT, let alone ones that are riddled with injuries.:rolleyes: Don't blame the offense though, only two fumbles and a turnover on downs in the red zone. This defense played WELL beyond their ability tonight, if you don't understand that find another team.
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    You can blame Belicheck for the D problems on 3rd down. He dictates a bend but don't break, keep them in front of you...etc.

    We rushed 3....after the rush was keeping him bottled up in the second half.

    There was a blown coverage, but the Defensive call was in keeping with BB over the entire run. They just played exceptionally bad on that 3rd and long instead of just bad.
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    Yes they are. 3rd and 15 with the game on the line and they FAIL. Are you shocked? I'm not, this team was not been able to stop a third and long in over two years.
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    I love how putting pressure on the qb gets the D into position for a 3rd & 15, then inexplicably they rush 3 or 4, and give the QB enough time to get a drink, eat a ham sammich, and complete an easy pass for the 1st down.

    It seems to happen all the friggen time! Call a decent friggen play you dumbasses!

    We can say whatever we want, but Cassel played his arse off tonight. Sure his timing was off, and he missed Moss and was behind or way ahead of some receivers... but he had college type numbers with all those yards.

    The D played a solid second half until it counted most, and I put some of the blame on the pathetic arse calls on the downs they needed stops on.

    Let's face it, the Pats have a long road ahead to try and win the division, and honestly it won't look great for the WC since we'd lose tiebreakers to SD & Indy thus far.
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    It was a brand new game in overtime, they had a chance to redeem themselves but didn't.
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    Don't forget our god-damn awful kick coverage. Gave up a td. And, great field
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    Um, Dean Pees...CAN SOMEONE COVER THE FREAKING ROOKIE TIGHT END...HOW ABOUT SMACKING HIM OFF THE LINE...GOD DAMMIT...WHAT THE FECK!!!!!!!
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    The defenses made multiple stops tonight, and the offense threw them away. Just because it's 3rd and 15 and not 3rd and 10 in OT doesn't mean that the defense is just automatically going to stop them.
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