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I think Vince probably feels the patriots paying him the 9 million is fair.
I don't see the big guy renegotiating, so he will most likely be cut. I really wish he had retired after the superbowl win, because a team WILL pay him 6-7 million for a couple of years, where I feel like the highest the pats can afford to go is 4.5, and pride isn't going to let him take 4.5 after being denied 9, when he can potentially pull in 7.
http://overthecap.com/manning-vs-brady-debate-broncos-manning-2015/
Why a good qb cap matters! Greedy manning cost his teams.
If Wilfork is worth 6-7 million on the open market, why should you want him to retire? I wish that we can re-sign him, but if he is worth 6-7M on the open market, then I wish him well as he moves on.
http://overthecap.com/manning-vs-brady-debate-broncos-manning-2015/
Why a good qb cap matters! Playoff manning cost his teams.
It's purely as a patriot fan, I'd love for him to have played his whole career with one team, And I know outsiders, and like 4 post from this forum, will say things such as "Kraft is cheap, and BB is a terrible GM" because they lets a DT on the wrong side of 30 walk instead of paying him nearly 10 million dollars for one year.
It's difficult but if I had to choose between Vince and Mayo I would keep Vince.
Vince has at least another season left in the tank, he played very well for someone of his size coming after a major surgery. With a whole off season to rest and solidify the recovery I can definitely see him back, at least I wish that. We need him, maybe we will draft his replacement this year but it won't be easy to find one.
It's difficult but if I had to choose between Vince and Mayo I would keep Vince.
I think people for some reason devalue Vince. I get the concerns last off-season due to his injury and I get he isn't getting any younger. But he bounced back this year and played a ridiculous snap count for a DT coming off major injury. We would have been screwed without him this year.
We need Vince. We definitely don't need a 9 mil cap hit so hopefully something can be negotiated and if it can't we might have no choice but to cut him but in no way is it a no brainer. We might have to carry that number if he digs his heals in because the dline still needs him.
Vince has at least another season left in the tank, he played very well for someone of his size coming after a major surgery. With a whole off season to rest and solidify the recovery I can definitely see him back, at least I wish that. We need him, maybe we will draft his replacement this year but it won't be easy to find one.
It's difficult but if I had to choose between Vince and Mayo I would keep Vince.
Hopefully that solid goes a long way in 're-negotiations. I agree Vince doesn't have much to complain about at least and unless we cut him.Vince has nothing to complain about.
The Patriots went out of their way, IIRC, in the last regaular season game against Buffalo to get him the required amount of snaps for his NLTBE incentive bonuses.
The Pats did him a solid.
- He literally was playing too much in that game next to Zach Moore and Joe Vellano because the FO was getting him his money.
In 2014, the Patriots were the worst team in the league in Power Success, allowing opposing offenses to convert 22 of 27 runs (81 percent) in important short-yardage situations (third or fourth down with two yards or less to go and first- or second-and-goal from the two-yard-line or closer). Even the Patriots’ few stops came against the league’s worst running teams. Teams not ranking in the bottom quarter of the league in Football Outsiders' rushing DVOA ratings converted 16 of 17 chances (94 percent) against the Patriots’ run defense.
Pro Football Outsiders had the Pats the worst team in the NFL at stopping the short yardage obvious run down and distance last year.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/four-downs/2015/four-downs-afc-east
Now, in fairness. the Pats played nickle or dime sub packages on 75% of the snaps and the trade-off for better pass coverage is conceding more running plays and inviting teams to run against them. Nevertheless, the Pats could probably be the worst team in the NFL stopping short-yardage running plays without paying Wilfork $9 million or without Wilfork, period.