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    I'm wondering how good you guys think Bolden can be this year.

    He looked to me like the best back on the field vs. the Bucs. I think he has great vision and power, as well as giving us a dual threat in the passing game.

    He should be in line for more touches this week, IMHO, provided his knee injury is healed up enough.
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    Well he needs to complete his routes... :)

    I think we really need to see more game action to really have a sense...one game is really limited and maybe bucs just didn't game plan at all for that type of player. Couple more games like that and then we can really evaluate
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    he will play the role of vereen until he comes back. good power runner with quick burst, vision and solid hands. didn't think he would get cut out of camp and glad the team kept him. he has a lot of potential imho.
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    Great depth option behind Ridley. At present, probably the Patriots 3rd down back to play the Kevin Faulk role until Shane Vereen returns.
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    I think hes a good back. if you remember, he looked ready to breakout last year before his suspension for PED's. when he came back he had fallen into the doghouse.

    But right now without vereen(and woodhead last year), he's our best passing back. I expect him to continue to get alot of touches.
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    I think that, over the course of a 19 game season, Bolden, Ridley, Vereen, Blount, and Washington will all be called on to make significant contributions. Their relative roles will almost certainly vary quite a bit from game to game, as we have already seen.
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    as mentioned he is not (yet) a complete back - hasnt shown he can be much of a pass-catching threat other than the traditional screen pass to the rb.

    But I had him marked last year as I guy I wanted to get more touches out of the backfield because of his power and how he hit the holes.

    All the RBs are a real great group right now; just without woodhead and vereen; they really miss that (proven) pass-threat dimension.
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    Agree with the OP that Bolden looked like the best back on the field last Sunday, and it wasn't even close. Having said that, look for Ridley to be first on the field Sunday night. I think we go heavy and try to gash the smaller ATL d-line.
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    He was pretty good catching the ball in college..I think he just didn't get much of an opportunity doing that last year due to having woodhead and vereen in front of him
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    He was the best receiving back on the field, but that will change when Vereen comes back and maybe even when Washington gets healthy.

    Ridley was the best runner, but a healthy margin.
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    Bolden is stronger and faster than Ridley, but lacks his vision and instincts. Vereen's injury is a big opportunity and it will be interesting to see how he develops.
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    Faster? I'm not even sure about stronger either, but I'll grant you that one for now.
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    I would say that Bolden is slower and weaker, but has better hands and can run some RB routes out of the backfield. He still needs to learn how to finish his routes though.
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    Its funny how busting one long run gives the impression you played really well.
    I'm not impressed with him as a receiver at all. Stopping on the route is unforgivable, but not making the catch on 3rd down on the first drive of the game was just as bad. He was open it was a good throw and he let a trailing defender that shouldn't have impacted the play jar the ball out.
    He is a capable player, but his role as the 4th RB is about where he belongs.
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    He looks like he can be serviceable in a rotation and looks more capable of catching passes out of the backfield than Ridley and Blount do.
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    Ridley has great vision and cutting ability through the hole but in terms of pure speed Bolden is faster. No way ot prove it here, but just watch them with DBs chasing.
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    Ridley ran a 4.55 and Bolden ran a 4.6
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    People here are way too impressed by posted 40 times.
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    Is there any other way for the casual fan to measure a pro running back's speed that I don't know of?
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    You can actually measure measure speed on film sometimes, which is closer to what they refer to as "football speed" as distinct from track speed. Famously mentioned with regard to Jerry Rice's lack of timed speed. Did you see Ridley get run down from behind in the preseason like a wounded calf? He runs out of gas pretty quickly. My only point is that everyone who as had timed 40 yd runs knows there can be variation in different heats, days, tracks etc. Would be better to have a mean time with a standard deviation for example. None of us really knows of course.
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    You have to be kidding me. You are going to judge Ridley's speed by his stamina on his first run of the preseason? No offense, but you pretty much just murdered your point right there.

    Stevan Ridley Highlights - YouTube

    This post I just made in the Vereen thread seems pertinent here:

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    You correctly list all the reasons not to rely on one measure, then base your conclusion on one runon the first play of the first preseason game. :bricks:
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    Ridley averaged 5.1 yards on 87 carries as a rookie, Bolden 4.9 on 56 carries.

    Is that supposed to be indicate a huge gap in talent?

    I love Ridley for what he did last year, but he hasn't been the same guy based on what we've seen so far. Is that a function of blocking, a lack of confidence, some lingering injury? Or perhaps its gameplan specific against some tough run defenses. I can't say.

    What I can say is that Bolden has produced when he's been on the field, he holds on to the ball and he gives you more in the receiving game.

    I haven't given up on Ridley by any means, but I wouldn't mind seeing he and Bolden split carries to give the latter a chance to really showcase his ability.
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    I wish 40s were run in full pads on grass.
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    You missed the point entirely. Many people on this board are pointing to Bolden's rate stats as proof that he is better than Ridley. My post was simply to point out that Ridely was actually more productive when in the same role. And you cannot just gloss over the fact that his marginal 0.2 ypc advantage came in nearly double the plays. That is significant.

    I don't know why Bolden fans get so defensive when it is pointed out that Ridely has actually been more productive. No one wants Brandon stapled to the bench, he is valuable depth and a contributor to the RB rotation. But Ridley was the better runner in 2012 and continues to be right now.
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    Yeah I don't understand why they don't do this.
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    My point was that Ridley looks faster and quicker than Boldin and the numbers support my assertion.
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    Ridley ran a 4.65 at the combine and a 4.66 at his pro day.

    Bolden ran a 4.55 at the combine and a 4.50 at his pro day.

    So no, the numbers do not support your assertion.

    Bolden is faster. Ridley is more agile, explosive, has excellent vision and patience, runs lower, and is overall a much better football player. Its not like Ridley being slower (which he clearly is) is a knock on him as a football player or a relative endorsement of Bolden.
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